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Post by ukstoke1 on Dec 31, 2008 19:30:54 GMT
Bayern I agree.. I can't see it, as he has bad knees!! Redknapp said it in the papers the other day!
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Post by Cityfullergoals on Dec 31, 2008 19:33:20 GMT
Louis Saha spends a lot more time on the injury list than Ric does though TBH
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Post by stokie25 on Dec 31, 2008 19:33:23 GMT
See, i love the bloke, with all his faults...but as a viable selling option he's:
29 years old suffers with his knees tempramental can be inconsistent is short fused
Stokies love him...but only championship sides would go in for him, surely ???
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Post by ukstoke1 on Dec 31, 2008 19:34:58 GMT
Stokie25, I agree with that. I dont think a club like Everton would be interested. He is spectacular but he can be lazy and sulky (sorry for those that think Fuller is the hardest working player on the pitch)
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Post by viiistokieviii on Dec 31, 2008 19:41:45 GMT
I think selling Fuller would really damage our chances of staying up this season.
To replace the quality Fuller brings to the pitch we are talking 6-7m imo and that along with another striker as back up would put a large dent in the total fund.
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Post by Coll40 on Dec 31, 2008 19:44:23 GMT
I think selling Fuller would really damage our chances of staying up this season. To replace the quality Fuller brings to the pitch we are talking 6-7m imo and that along with another striker as back up would put a large dent in the total fund. Do you seriously think a bloke who can get 6 goals in half a season will take 6 - 7 million to replace ?
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 31, 2008 19:59:04 GMT
I think 6 is a very good haul for a lower Prem team, at the turn of the year. He's only played 14 games.
Especially considering the poor quality of his suppliers, and the fact that we are far from an attacking team, and have produced infinitely the fewest shots in the Premier League.
Kitson managed 10 in a far more free-flowing Reading team over a season, and that was being taken as proof that he was a good, Premier League-quality striker - and justification for a £5.5m fee.
And his goal stats alone don't tell the story. Without his pace, trickery, runs, we create very, very little. He's effectively a one-man army much of the time by virtue of the system we play.
But, as has been said, his uninsurable knees and his age, as well as his temperament are pretty huge mitigating factors (especially his knees), and I don't think anyone could make us an offer we couldn't refuse, as his value to us is greater than anyone is likely to offer in the circumstances.
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Post by AlliG on Dec 31, 2008 20:31:41 GMT
Hmm, lets see.
Santa Cruz - Value £20m, 4goals Pavlyuchenko £14m, 3 goals Alves £12m, 3goals Jo £18m, 2 goals Zamora £5m, 1 goal.
Yes, it will!
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Post by Cityfullergoals on Dec 31, 2008 20:37:36 GMT
Hmm, lets see. Santa Cruz - Value £20m, 4goals Pavlyuchenko £14m, 3 goals Alves £12m, 3goals Jo £18m, 2 goals Zamora £5m, 1 goal. Yes, it will! Andy Johnson, Robbie Keane, blah blah - the list goes on
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Post by powchirper on Dec 31, 2008 20:43:29 GMT
Would have been 8 goals had he netted the pen v Spurs and the Everton wonder goal not been chalked off at the whim of a look at me style ref.
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Post by victoriaboothenboy on Dec 31, 2008 20:47:49 GMT
How much did Agbonlahor cost Villa???
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Post by monkeycat on Dec 31, 2008 20:51:34 GMT
Scousestokie1 posted a thread about this last week after he had been to a match at Goodison
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Dec 31, 2008 21:15:24 GMT
Fuck me.... just looking at the SSN report..... much ado about nothing. I think Fuller's body language is just someone who wants to leave it all behind and get on with it. He's annoyed that he was eff'd and blinded at by Griff and admits he was in the wrong. More like SSN making something out of nothing by asking leading questions.
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Post by viiistokieviii on Dec 31, 2008 21:19:03 GMT
Obviously i do coll40 or i wouldn't have said it Looks like i'm not the only one believing that to be the case as well.
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Post by Soi Cowboy on Dec 31, 2008 21:34:39 GMT
'I'm 100% confident that Kitson would have done just as well as Fuller, if he had been played as a striker instead of a link man' Be careful with the booze- you'll be really pissed come midnight .
How on earth would Fuller fetch 8 or 9 million??????? I do firmly believe Fuller will go and is making the right noises in the press as far as a move is concerned. They did sign a very injury prone Saha and Fuller if he is engineering a move would tick all Everton's boxes. Wouldn't cost a great deal- would obviously get a far bigger salary and has proved he can score goals at this level.
Before any one says he didn't get sent off on purpose etc- I don't for 1 second think he did but does seem to want to move on.
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Post by westlandsstokie on Dec 31, 2008 21:45:15 GMT
Fuller at Everton ? David Moyes would have to be desperate to sign Fuller....he aint good enough for a club like Everton.However,if they did offer £5m or more it would be interesting to see if Tony would let him go.At the end of the day a move to a club for that sort of money would make Fuller a very wealthy man.....so don't bet against it.
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Post by NassauDave on Dec 31, 2008 22:54:53 GMT
Alli G is right. For a punt of say 4-5mill they will probably go for the moody one.
Annoying as fuck but quite likely.
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Post by Linx on Dec 31, 2008 23:09:46 GMT
We've known about Fuller's knees since his arrival at the club, but has he ever had a serious problem with them since at Stoke?
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Post by viiistokieviii on Dec 31, 2008 23:16:16 GMT
Soi, i never said he is worth 8-9m or that the club wouldn't sell him for less. I said "I" wouldn't.
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Post by efc61 on Jan 1, 2009 7:47:32 GMT
Sorry boys, no way we want one of your championship players, go dump ya crap somewhere else! He obviously wants to still be in the Prem NEXT season? Send him ACROSS Stanley park then!
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Post by ukstoke1 on Jan 1, 2009 10:07:57 GMT
efc61, cheers for that. bye
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2009 10:25:29 GMT
efc61.. so lets get this clear , what you're saying is the blue shite wont be in the prem next season ?
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Post by lordb on Jan 1, 2009 11:20:17 GMT
Everton will face a 2 year ban for being the dullest thing in existance
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Post by boscfc on Jan 1, 2009 13:54:37 GMT
GermanStokie
totally agree with you. My interpretation was that he just wants the whole thing behind him. What else could he say?
The Everton rumour is just a convenient vehicle at the moment for those with their supposed inside knowledge ....
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Post by nathan on Jan 1, 2009 14:03:02 GMT
Everton are skint. I'm not this has occurred to some people. Even if Stoke were open to offers on Fuller, I highly doubt that anyone would meet our valuation of him. boscfc has the top and bottom of it. The Everton "link" was made reference to by SSN on the back of what's been circulating on this MB, in my opinion. Since then it's come to light how many posters have been given information. Coincidental .. perhaps not.
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Post by scfclifer on Jan 1, 2009 14:14:27 GMT
www.mirror.co.uk/sport/2009/01/01/january-transfer-window-club-by-club-guide-115875-21007282/scroll down Everton What they need: David Moyes desperately wants to sign another striker on loan after having his frontline decimated by injury and could also do with another central midfielder to beef up his small squad. Targets: Giampaolo Pazzini (Fiorentina) loan, Jo (Manchester City) loan, Ricardo Fuller (Stoke) £3million. Outgoings: Mikel Arteta Spending power: £1-2million
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Post by Bick on Jan 1, 2009 14:16:25 GMT
I don't think he'll go. I was 100% sure before the west ham incident. Now around 75%!!
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Post by nathan on Jan 1, 2009 14:20:06 GMT
www.mirror.co.uk/sport/2009/01/01/january-transfer-window-club-by-club-guide-115875-21007282/scroll down Everton What they need: David Moyes desperately wants to sign another striker on loan after having his frontline decimated by injury and could also do with another central midfielder to beef up his small squad. Targets: Giampaolo Pazzini (Fiorentina) loan, Jo (Manchester City) loan, Ricardo Fuller (Stoke) £3million. Outgoings: Mikel Arteta Spending power: £1-2million I like the logistics of it all. They are targeting Fuller who will cost £3 million, yet have between £1-2 mill to spend.
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Post by scfclifer on Jan 1, 2009 14:21:24 GMT
www.mirror.co.uk/sport/2009/01/01/january-transfer-window-club-by-club-guide-115875-21007282/scroll down Everton What they need: David Moyes desperately wants to sign another striker on loan after having his frontline decimated by injury and could also do with another central midfielder to beef up his small squad. Targets: Giampaolo Pazzini (Fiorentina) loan, Jo (Manchester City) loan, Ricardo Fuller (Stoke) £3million. Outgoings: Mikel Arteta Spending power: £1-2million I like the logistics of it all. They are targeting Fuller who will cost £3 million, yet have between £1-2 mill to spend. ARTETA is going arsenal 10-12 million mate
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 1, 2009 14:25:47 GMT
Stoke What they need: Tony Pulis could do with more cover for full-backs Danny Griffin and Rory Delap, while he would like another striker to boost their survival hopes. Targets: Dave Nugent (Portsmouth) £2million, David Healy (Sunderland) £1million. Outgoings: Ricardo Fuller Spending power: Sell to buy
When you see the comical Stoke 'analysis' in the Mirror transfer window guide, I think we can kiss goodbye to any insight in this particular space-filling pile of crap.
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