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Post by serpico on Dec 14, 2008 16:17:28 GMT
Reports again today that west ham are going to offload him in jan, is he worth the gamble ? would he fit into our system ? he's a big lad, so height wouldn't be a problem.... many people would have advised us to steer clear of Fuller due to his knee injuries but he's been fine injury wise, and Pulis does have a fairly good record of rescuing strikers and turning their fortunes around.
And lastly, could we actually afford him ???
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Post by sweetandinnocent on Dec 14, 2008 16:18:53 GMT
if we could get 20 -25 games a season out of him, i'd prefer him over zigic.
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Post by backfrommeban on Dec 14, 2008 16:19:29 GMT
Yes i would have him... Doubful he would come for a sensible price! When fit - he could be lethal for us... and a local lad... so that could have some weighting!!
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Post by turd on Dec 14, 2008 16:19:34 GMT
would rather spend 6 or 7 million on him rather than ledley.
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Post by RAF on Dec 14, 2008 16:22:14 GMT
Dean Ashton would never play for Stoke.
He fucking hates us.
And since when has Swindon been local?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 14, 2008 16:22:40 GMT
He'd be brilliant but he likes the ball to his feet/chest like Parkin and like Kitson so he could fit our style if we didn't boot to his head.
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Post by serpico on Dec 14, 2008 16:28:43 GMT
Dean Ashton would never play for Stoke. He fucking hates us. And since when has Swindon been local? H He might find us a bit more attractive now though, many players have pledged never to play for certain teams only to end up signing for them, Rio Ferdinand and Alan Smith both publicly stated they'd never play for Man Ure. The more I think about it, the more I think he would be a good player for us, he's 6ft1 and is strong and good with the ball at his feet, him and fuller up front could be a decent pairing. |
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Post by RAF on Dec 14, 2008 16:32:47 GMT
Fair point Serp.
You never know I suppose.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2008 16:33:18 GMT
Too injury prone. Great player when fit. NO THANKS!!!!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 14, 2008 16:34:33 GMT
Serps-good with the ball at his feet-unless we changed and did that he would be crap for us.
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Post by serpico on Dec 14, 2008 16:35:35 GMT
Too injury prone. Great player when fit. NO THANKS!!!! That is what people said about Fuller, no doubt it's a gamble, but if we got him for a cut price it'd be worth the gamble imo. |
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Post by Stokie-Jiggz on Dec 14, 2008 17:04:18 GMT
hes a good player, can hit a ball but with his injuries in the past...stay well clear.
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Post by crewepotter on Dec 14, 2008 17:07:45 GMT
RAF i thought Dean Ashton was brought up in Holmes Chapel. He was certainly with us around the age of 12 before he went to Crewe
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Post by serpico on Dec 14, 2008 17:09:23 GMT
I don't think anyone is going to pay more than 4-5m for him are they ? given his injury record anything above that would be silly and potentially throwing money away, but on the other hand, he could turn out to be a bargain, when he was fit and at the top of his game he was being touted as a 20m player and being linked with the likes of Man Ure.
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Post by redditchpotter on Dec 14, 2008 17:17:02 GMT
I have always rated him,just injury prone.But for the right price could be worth a gamble
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Post by Cupid Stunt on Dec 14, 2008 17:19:31 GMT
He was born in Swindon but grew up in Holmes Chapel and went to the same school as me ;D  |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 14, 2008 17:19:44 GMT
To tell you the truth, I can't see why he would necessarily fair any better than Kitson in our present set up.
For me, the big money needs to be spent on players who can provide quality balls in to the forwards that we've already got.
Of course now that we're playing the likes of Cresswell and Pericard in the Prem, we certainly do need cover for our strikers, but IMHO it would be crazy to splash out the sort of money that would be needed to bring in the likes of Ashton, until we've addressed the far more pressing areas of our first eleven.
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Post by stokelad84 on Dec 14, 2008 17:22:35 GMT
As long as he doesn't have to play the mama role!!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 14, 2008 17:27:29 GMT
The Mama role that before and after him Kitson, Parkin, Ameobi, Iwelumo, Gifton and many more have been played in and then we still play like Mama is there! Dunna count on it!
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Post by stokelad84 on Dec 14, 2008 17:29:44 GMT
Gifton was the prototype for the mama role. But he was too deep and not as effective at at  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 14, 2008 17:32:57 GMT
And then when played up front scored a fair few goals.
TP has to look at the Mama role and realise that he can't mould strikers that hold up the ball with their feet into Mama. We did it with Parkin, we would just hoof to him despite the fact he wanted at feet and was too fat too jump!
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Post by stokelad84 on Dec 14, 2008 17:34:22 GMT
Could be TP's achilles heel
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Post by stokesaint1 on Dec 14, 2008 18:59:10 GMT
Comes complete with personallised, ready filled in, sick note. He spends far more time on the treatment table than he does on the pitch.
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 14, 2008 19:01:38 GMT
More delusion from Stoke fans. A fit Ashton is a target for Spurs, Villa and the likes. We have less than ZERO chance of signing him.
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Post by fradleyhomes on Dec 14, 2008 19:03:37 GMT
Pugsley, you are spot on, christ who do we think we are. We all want the best players but it is not going to happen as yet.
You need to establish yourselves in the prem before players such as ashton choose us especially when villa,spurs and god knows who else wants him
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Post by riproaring on Dec 14, 2008 19:48:16 GMT
ahstons ankle is fucked well knowned fact will never be the same player he was before breaking it in the england camp nearly retired afterwards, so i say no we have enough shite without another expensive crock. he was on the verge of going to spurs for about 15m+ now they will let leave for 5. i smell a rat
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Post by serpico on Dec 14, 2008 19:52:56 GMT
More delusion from Stoke fans. A fit Ashton is a target for Spurs, Villa and the likes. We have less than ZERO chance of signing him. Thats why we probably have a chance of signing him, because like Fuller, he's one of those players that top clubs won't sign due to his injury record, thats exactly why he might end up at a club like Stoke, ... I agree that if he didn't have the injuries we wouldn't stand a snow ball in hells chance, as it is, I certainly don't think it's delusional to think we might stand a chance of signing him, and we have the added bonus of being geographically close to his family, he's also 25 now, so he's not the young starlet that he used to be. |
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Post by riproaring on Dec 14, 2008 19:54:47 GMT
what about michael owen then lives near chester ;D, only two feet too small and same as ashton.
injury prone
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Post by Beardy200 on Dec 14, 2008 20:05:51 GMT
More delusion from Stoke fans. A fit Ashton is a target for Spurs, Villa and the likes. We have less than ZERO chance of signing him. Spot on Pugs. This fella is miles above our shopping list at the moment and if he is on our list we need a more realistic one. He's a quality player and if he could stay fit for than 6 months he'd be Rooney's partner in an England shirt everytime. In a different league to Heskey and as soon as he's available there will be much bigger fish than us after him. |
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Post by serpico on Dec 14, 2008 20:06:03 GMT
Owen is 5ft7, he won't even be on Pulis' radar, might as well not exist at all, at least Ashton is over 6ft tall, so he ticks a couple of boxes -
6ft + : tick
Injury prone : tick
Black : Negative
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