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Post by rabbigan on Nov 24, 2008 11:48:38 GMT
Apparently according to he who cannot be crticised or questioned.
I sit fairly close to where our manager stands and must say I shall be asking for a reduction on my ticket for next year since I get an obviously obstructed view, and as aresult am missing Cressies good stuff.
Did anyone else think Cressie was Maahhvellus Saturday or did they see him jump and shirk a number of tackles and generally do the headless chicken. Soares though did well and did not desereve to be subbed and the bit of footie between Tongue and Danny to set up Mamas goal was worth the wait.
The chorus from those of us able to pass info on to TP was immediately "are you watching Tony". I just dont think we have to be so dour. The Kitson injury was obviously a major set back but we were yet again crying out for a Whelan or Tongue somebody who could provide a pass and play somebody in.
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Post by womble on Nov 24, 2008 11:52:09 GMT
He worked his socks off.
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Post by womble on Nov 24, 2008 11:55:13 GMT
I think your view was very obstructed. What did Soares do well? Didn't notice him at all in the first half, but noticed him in the second half for all the wrong reasons, failed to take his man on and consistently fluffed crosses and corners? Shame, I was hoping for big things from him but he seemed to have an off game.
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 24, 2008 11:58:35 GMT
Not knocking the sentiment of this thread, but why is it that English footballer supporters equate someone who runs around for 90 minutes = having a blinder?
The bare minimum for a footballer should be effort.
Give me 3 months training, pick me for Stoke and I'll run around like a headless chicken for 94 minutes. I'll be shite with the FOOTBALL, but I'll still have been maahhvellus.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Nov 24, 2008 11:58:48 GMT
Well said Womble, i though Soares had a bit of a mare. Hopefully its a only a blip though. And i will give credit where credit is due to Creswell, not my fave player, but did a job when required.
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Post by tazi on Nov 24, 2008 12:00:23 GMT
I thought that Creswell was garbage up until halftime, but afterwards he was truly immense.
Edit - Soarses did have a bit of a mare and deserved to be subbed. After that i thought that Tongue changed the game.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 24, 2008 12:00:34 GMT
So Soares gets subbed and you ask 'are you watching Tony'. Then the player who replaced him is involved in the only bit of genuine quality of the game which wins us the match?
Your point is?
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Post by bossthemidfield on Nov 24, 2008 12:04:34 GMT
He did a job, end of.
Lets not forget, he is third choice for a reason.
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Post by womble on Nov 24, 2008 12:08:47 GMT
third/fourth choice...
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Post by Tubes on Nov 24, 2008 12:33:45 GMT
thought Cressie had one of his better games for us, some nice touches and good workrate as always, didn't look particularly threatening but looked better than he does when played out wide!
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Post by Beardy200 on Nov 24, 2008 12:37:39 GMT
Yes a few have described him as having a blinder which in my eyes is just not the case. However i think a lot will defend him to the hilt (me being one of them) as he gives it all he's got and never lets anyone down through lack of effort and yet he gets all sorts of 'personal abuse' from people on here which is un-called for. I didn't see him shirk any tackles to be fair to him either. As for Soares ... a few promising runs that all ended with no decent delivery so a pretty ineffective performance i thought.
No Cresswell isn't good enough but unless you were expecting us to get better in under the cover of darkness, have some facial surgery to make them look like Cresswell or Pericard then i don't see an alternative until January. Therefore if he tries his best then he should be free from criticism or you should be moaning at Pulis.
Suggestion for you .... try and imagine how well Pericard would have done on Saturday and i'm sure Cresswell's performance will suddenly seem a lot better.
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Post by isomat on Nov 24, 2008 12:45:11 GMT
Agree that Cresswell did nothing - though could have said that before the game kicked off.
Agree that Soares did nothing - Womble's assessment fo him exactly tallies with mine.
Still chuffed with win - onwards and upwards...
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Post by bambered on Nov 24, 2008 12:50:41 GMT
Cresswell created a chance for Soares (that was poorly struck). More importantly he showed good awareness not to get a touch on Mamas goal as he was offside and it would have been disallowed. I thought he played as well as the majority of the team.
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Post by dman on Nov 24, 2008 12:57:30 GMT
always stuns me how people can have a go at a player for being crap. Im fairly sure all players would like to be as good as ronaldo but if they aint they aint. It isnt their fault they keep getting picked now is it
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Post by Dr Oetcake on Nov 24, 2008 13:16:57 GMT
Im as good as Ronaldo, and I cant get a game!
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Post by lordb on Nov 24, 2008 13:30:07 GMT
? thought Cresswell played well second half especially.
nice to see one of our forwards actually anticipate Mama's flick ons. equally good to see him make runs into dangerous areas in the penno area
as a midfileder clearly the prem is beyond him as a target man he isnt strong enough (he did win some headers though unlike some strikers - see Pericard v Rotherham). as a busy bee type striker dropping off & linking up he played very well.hard to say how effective he would be against better defences than Albions (that'l be 18 other sides we have to play then....) but you can only play agaisnt whats on the pitch.
& of course he already proven he can finish. 4Th choice striker?most defintely but perhaps not the disaster that may have been made out.
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Post by mark71 on Nov 24, 2008 13:30:39 GMT
creswell is the new Andy Cooke, works his cock off, gives everything he's got but is just not good enough at this level. If every Stoke player shows the same attitude as Cressy did on Saturday we'll stay up by 10 points.
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 24, 2008 13:43:09 GMT
Cresswell created a chance for Soares (that was poorly struck). More importantly he showed good awareness not to get a touch on Mamas goal as he was offside and it would have been disallowed. I thought he played as well as the majority of the team. Did well to create the chance... especially after he miscontrolled the ball and had to make a tacke to get the ball back. Luckily it broke to Soares who forced a save from Carson.
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Post by rabbigan on Nov 24, 2008 14:37:10 GMT
Sheikmomo,
I assume being a Sheik that English is not your first language. You certainly fail to read it correctly.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 24, 2008 14:41:07 GMT
Yes but you're a confusing chap?
"Soares though did well and did not desereve to be subbed and the bit of footie between Tongue and Danny to set up Mamas goal was worth the wait.
The chorus from those of us able to pass info on to TP was immediately "are you watching Tony".
What were you asking him to watch?
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Post by fromafar07 on Nov 24, 2008 14:45:43 GMT
pugsley my good man, i cannot agree enough with your post !! why, just because Cresswell runs up and down the pitch all game give him an amazing performance. last time i checked, its a football game they are playing outthere not running a marathon !! he didnt get close to goal, made no passes to anyone to get them close to goal and basically contributed nothing to the game but his time and sweat !!!
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Post by tampon on Nov 24, 2008 14:48:13 GMT
I thought Cresswell was pretty poor on the ball in the first half, tripped over thin air when he had a chance to put the ball in from the left and got sandwiched out of a defenders flick-on that Fuller would have put away with ease. He improved second half though (probably because people stopped passing to him on purpose). The Sidibe through-ball that he never quite got under control was probably his only meaningful contribution to our attack and in my opinion should have been a penno... when he knocked the ball to Soares he was clattered in the area, if Soares hadn't have been in a shooting position I think the ref would have had to give something.
The only positive from Soares I can remember was that little run where 2 defenders stood off him and he whipped a shit cross into nobody. Tongue did more in the short time he was on than Soares did all match.
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Nov 24, 2008 15:08:21 GMT
Worked the channels well to provide an outlet for the defenders, a ball which higginbotham used quite a few times. As always with cressie the problems start when he has the ball at his feet and has to dribble - it was his usual mixed bag on those occasions. Other than that obvious limitation he did what he does well, running into space and pressing their defenders. He didn't really threaten the goal but he contributed to the team in the way that he could.
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Post by rabbigan on Nov 24, 2008 17:25:13 GMT
Sheik, We were asking him to watch the result of a neat piece of passing in the hope it might encourage him to select people who prefer to pass it rather than lump it.
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Post by stokie25 on Nov 24, 2008 17:27:59 GMT
it WAS only West Brom, though ;D
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Post by th05 on Nov 24, 2008 18:02:06 GMT
Credit to him he must have been absolutely knackered after the game. Great worth ethic. But it's like watching a headless chicken at times.
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