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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 23, 2008 18:35:18 GMT
Portuguese paper 'Diario de Noticias' says we'll offer 4m Euros for Ariza Makukula in January. I think he was mentioned a few times in the press over the summer as a potential target. He seems to be an old-school bruising targetman, who's very good in the air.... dn.sapo.pt/2008/11/22/dnsport/stoke_city_oferece_quatro_milhoes_ma.htmlStoke City offers four million for MakukulaClub of the Premier League goes to advance for the definitive act of contract of Makukula. Benfica compensates the done investment has one year and still it is gotten rid of one commanded chorudo one
Makukula will have to abandon the Benfica in the reopening of the market. This is a desire of the incarnate club partilhado by the International Portuguese, that is not one of the first options of Quique Flowers. According to DN sport selected, the Benfica has the indication of that the Stoke City, club of the Premier League, intends to offer the sum intended for fleshes-color for the definitive acquisition of tip-of-launches - four million euros.
This is a scene that pleases to fleshes-color and to the player, who, thus, can show its value, a time that in the Benfica is not used in Liga, was not enrolled in the UEFA and alone it made, in 2008/09, 120 minutes with the Penafiel to count for the Goblet of Portugal.
The four million euros serve to compensate the upstream pay, have one year, to Seville -3,5 million - more 500 a thousand that the club of the Light eliminated next to the Marine to have Makukula to the orders in the reopening of the market.
The SAD incarnate, to materialize it exit of Makukula for the Stoke City - club presided over for Gordon Banks, author of whom is considered the best defense of the history of the soccer to a cabeceamento of Skin -, is gotten rid of one of the expirations highest of the breeding. Makukula gains a million of free annual euros of taxes, what perfaz more than 83 a thousand euros/month. The Stoke City, emblem that went up this year to the Premier League, is not alone in the race for Makukula, but it will have always the advantage to fulfill one of the requirements of the Benfica: the sales in definitive. The club of the Light does not reject the possibility to loan Makukula, but it will only make it in last case.
For the loan, Makukula has market still more, to start for the last one classified of Spanish Liga, the Osasuna de Camacho, trainer whom the act of contract of the luso-congolês for the Benfica asked for. The problem of the Osasuna is equal to the one of many other clubs: it does not have money to make great acts of contract nor makes use of wage mass to pay the totality of the expiration of Makukula. The Saragoça is another enthusiastic club with tip-of-launches of 27 years, that contract with the Benfica has until June of a 2012 and clause of rescission of 40 million. But the fact of the former-club of Aimar to be in II the Spanish division does not attract Makukula, that has in 15.º classified of the Premier League the main candidate to its acquisition. The Stoke City, older club of the Premier League, has only 13 golos marked in the English league, being, thus, 4.º worse attack of the test. | |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 23, 2008 18:41:41 GMT
Isn't his goalscoring record shocking?
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 23, 2008 18:56:28 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 23, 2008 19:04:24 GMT
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Post by victoriaboothenboy on Nov 23, 2008 19:14:24 GMT
Reading that article is like listening to that tit Mowbray,its all verbal bollocks
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 23, 2008 19:15:26 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 23, 2008 19:19:42 GMT
You can see the attraction for Pulis. After the failure of Kitson, Ameobi, Parkin et al to be accommodated, he looks to have concluded that the easy option is to get this guy who'll fit straight into the Mama role like a glove.
Doesn't seem to address the lack of a creative goalscorer in Fuller's absence though?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 23, 2008 19:25:52 GMT
It seems that way FM. It looks like he wins the flick ons and doesn't score much. As a back up for Mama he could be useful but a back up for 4 million euros? And the need for a pacy Henri Camara type makes me think that Mukukula isn't the man for us at this stage unless we have loads of money to spend.
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Post by steinovschmeichel on Nov 23, 2008 19:39:29 GMT
don;t need him we got mama the best target man in the premier league
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Post by Soi Cowboy on Nov 24, 2008 9:22:57 GMT
'Isn't his goalscoring record shocking? '
Unlike Dave Kitson of course. Great strike record so far.
We saw yesterday we desperately need cover- Mama led the line superbly I thought and Cresswell made a lot happen when he came on. WE are desperately thin on strikers and will Kitson possibly being on his way if rumours are to be believed then we need at least 2 new faces up frront.
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Post by monsoonmoon on Nov 24, 2008 9:48:35 GMT
Very big, very powerful. Unprolific and slow, however. Much like a Heskey. I can see the logic, but it certainly seems steep, especially so given we'd probably have to go back in the Striker-market again.
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 24, 2008 10:29:08 GMT
If Sidibe is as crucial to the way our drilled 4-4-1--1 works as it seems and Pulis hasn't yet hit on a plan B and wants to keep it going in the long-term and not change things around, even with more expensive players available, I suppose it'd be folly not to have a back-up with the physical capabilities to reprise the Mama job. We also need someone who can come in and do a Fuller impression though. www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/stokecity/Stoke-City-Potters-edging-closer-Christmas-target-says-Diao/article-496094-detail/article.htmlDiao paid tribute to Mama Sidibe, whose second league goal of the season powered Stoke to their fifth win in seven Premier League games at the Britannia. Sidibe has only netted 21 goals in 134 league games for Stoke since signing on a free transfer from Gillingham in the summer of 2005. However, Diao says those bare statistics do nothing to show the true value of Sidibe as Stoke's deep-lying striker. He said: "He is the only player in our team who can play the role he does. It is very hard physically and the work he does for the team is just unbelievable. "I think he is the main man on our tactics, so I am very happy for him to score. "People seem to forget about him or say he never scores. But we know how important he is in our system. To have got that goal today was a reward for him." |
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Post by monsoonmoon on Nov 24, 2008 10:42:18 GMT
If Sidibe is as crucial to the way our drilled 4-4-1--1 works as it seems and Pulis hasn't yet hit on a plan B and wants to keep it going in the long-term and not change things around, even with more expensive players available, I suppose it'd be folly not to have a back-up with the physical capabilities to reprise the Mama job. We also need someone who can come in and do a Fuller impression though. Exactly, but with the sum quoted and that we need other areas too, perhaps a loan wouldn't be a bad idea for the deputising for Fuller role. I guess it all depends on the figures we've got to play with. |
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Post by tazi on Nov 24, 2008 11:02:03 GMT
If Pulis believes that this player is capable in playing the Mama role to good effect then great bring him in because should Mama ever get injured 'Lord forbid that he doesn't' then we would without a shadow of a doubt need him.
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 24, 2008 17:15:33 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 24, 2008 18:44:58 GMT
'Isn't his goalscoring record shocking? ' Unlike Dave Kitson of course. Great strike record so far. We saw yesterday we desperately need cover- Mama led the line superbly I thought and Cresswell made a lot happen when he came on. WE are desperately thin on strikers and will Kitson possibly being on his way if rumours are to be believed then we need at least 2 new faces up frront. Kitson has bugger all to do with this! My point was we need someone who with pace not another target man. Kitson is just having a bad time of it-shit happens in football. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 24, 2008 19:21:43 GMT
To be fair, we've show we can't function at all without Sidibe running his arse off and being a pain in the arse to play against, 15 yards behind Fuller.
It's a bit worrying that, as Diao acknowledges, our whole system crumbles without Sidibe. A workable Plan B or evolution in our attacking game seems to be non-existent, whether it be with Kitson, Ameobi, Parkin or greater emphasis on wingers....
At least if this big Portuguese lad comes in, it sounds like we're addressing this head on and ,straightforwardly, virtually buying a Mama clone who can slot straight into our limited gameplan, rather than trying to shoehorn an expensive, yet totally unaccustomed player, into a very specific role, like we did with Kitson.
Have we got the money left to buy some proper cover for Fuller as well though?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 24, 2008 19:35:46 GMT
Henri Camara for 2 million would do me.
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Post by northstokie on Nov 24, 2008 20:02:51 GMT
None of those flicked headers went anywhere useful!! |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 24, 2008 20:06:41 GMT
With us though he'd be doing that 15 yards up the pitch so he'd be brilliant!  |
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Nov 24, 2008 20:09:09 GMT
Well it would appear that we need a spare "Mama" as well as a spare "Ric" so it may not be a bad move.
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Post by Soi Cowboy on Nov 24, 2008 20:40:56 GMT
'Kitson has bugger all to do with this! My point was we need someone who with pace not another target man. Kitson is just having a bad time of it-shit happens in football. '
Kitson has everything to do with it? have you ever run a business? If so God help it. We wasted a reputed initial 2.5 on him and he has done piss all- cue the style of play blamers
The point you failed to grasp is we need another Fuller and another Mama- basics in your home maybe don't exist but hey
Kitson will free up a huge wage and good luck where he goes-If you can't see he is the biggest misfit since that useless piece of crap Greenacre then take up another sport
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 24, 2008 20:44:34 GMT
No I'm too young and we've wasted bugger all on him yet-give him time that's all I'm saying. And yes we need another both of them-I've said that but I think we need another Fuller above another Mama hence why I said Makukula would be a good signing for next season. I love the giving people time trait in Stokies  |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 4, 2009 11:17:59 GMT
He does look like an ideal Mama sub, and if he doesn't intend modifying his style, surely we will need one ASAP as the number one priority, or whenever Mama can't feature we'll continue to give a good impression of a clueless rabble. www.abola.pt/nnh/ver.aspx?id=155637Benfica waits for the best proposal for Makukula to leave Makukula yesterday was convoked for the game as Trofense, but the calls to the official games will be able to leave being a reality soon, therefore the SAD is determined to leave to leave the Portuguese International (four internationalizations, one golo) in the Winter market, that it reopens tomorrow and it locks up the 2 of February. At the Stadium of Light proposals had not yet arrived, only asked for of information on the part of agents, the majority in England, country where the striker has a market, due to his characteristics - ideal for the direct soccer that some British teams still go practising. www.ojogo.pt/Directo/NoticiaHoraFutebolNacional_makukulabrom0301_102760.aspWest Bromwich wants Makukula Makukula is on the agenda of the West Bromwich Albion,the club that currently occupies the last place in the Premier League, along with the Blackburn Rovers. The English emblem already will have considered to the Benfica the loan of the advanced one until end of the season, despite the pretension is not easy to satisfy, since they intend to collect a good profit with the transfer of the player. Makukula, it has to be remembered, cost more than three million euros to the Benfica in January of 2008 and he has not been one of the choices of the current coach Quique Flores. |
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Post by Bick on Jan 4, 2009 11:29:59 GMT
This is a player I don't know enough about. But would b nice to have some serious mama cover
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jan 4, 2009 11:41:19 GMT
Is he breathing? Check.
Can he run? Check.
Can he jump? Check.
Get him in then so we never see Pericard play in a Stoke strip again.
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Post by knowles on Jan 4, 2009 11:44:57 GMT
The longer we wait to sign someone, the less time we have for them to gel. It seems unlikely but we really could do with a new striker in time for Liverpool. Whether Makukula is the right man remains to be seen but we cannot afford to have a Pericard v Carragher match up.
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Post by Jimbo on Jan 4, 2009 12:00:56 GMT
I think we can all agree that at least another striker is essential. With our total reliance on Fuller as a goalscoring threat, and inability to play without Sidibe, we're desperately one-dimensional. Although Kitson seemed like a good signing at the time, and may come good, a combination of his poor form and Pulis' tactics have demonstrated that we can't rely on him to get the goals this season.
With the other options being Cresswell who is clearly not a Premier League standard forward (when he rarely plays there!) and Pericard just not an option, then maybe Makukula looks a decent option.
Having observed the Pulis style of play over the years, we know he's not going to vary his formation and/or style of play any time soon, especially not in a relegation battle. So someone who can come in and play the Sidibe role and, ideally, provide a modicum of a goal threat, is essential.
Whether one - or dare we ask for two - wide player who can run at people and cross the ball is too much to ask remains to be seen.
Camara would provide another striker option when Fuller isn't performing or is suspended, but I can't see Wigan letting him go any time soon. They wouldn't sell him in August without Fraizer Campbell as a replacement, and could now lose Heskey.
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