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Post by knowingeye on Oct 5, 2008 17:45:43 GMT
Peter Coates, love him or hate him, has certainly as the main investor stuck by his guns and put the club where it is today. The reality is, although he is a wealthy man, he doesn't have the financial reserves to take the club up the Premier league and maintain that position for at least a couple of seasons to come.
Alternatively, is the plan to do a West Brazil and take the drop into the championship, with the financial pay-off and then sell?
The club is now in the best position its had for years. Assets in place, low debt and needs a major cash injection to take the club to the next level.
Will he sell, recover his investment and take a life position on the new board?
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Post by kingdeano on Oct 5, 2008 17:47:07 GMT
hes spent over 20 fuckin million! what more do you want from him! if anyone is to blame its pulis for spending it on shit
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Post by mumf14 on Oct 5, 2008 17:47:08 GMT
Not yet....Stand by your beds.
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 5, 2008 17:48:20 GMT
Hang on, didn't we spend £21m in the summer?
Surely that's an A+ investment for a promoted club, ke. I don't think you can expect an unglamorous, provincial club to spend more than that in their first season up.
Hull spent less than £10m.
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Post by Chris1863 on Oct 5, 2008 17:48:24 GMT
you cannot blame coates for pulis's tactics
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Post by knowingeye on Oct 5, 2008 17:49:58 GMT
hes spent over 20 fuckin million! what more do you want from him! if anyone is to blame its pulis for spending it on shit TP can only spend what his budget allows. I'm not being critical of either PC or TP. How can I? But we have to push on!!!! |
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Post by daverichards on Oct 5, 2008 17:51:37 GMT
he has more in the bank than that steve gibson @ middlesbrough .
as for peoples comments on spending £20M thats come from the TV money, not his bank account
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Post by kingdeano on Oct 5, 2008 17:54:31 GMT
hes spent over 20 fuckin million! what more do you want from him! if anyone is to blame its pulis for spending it on shit TP can only spend what his budget allows. I'm not being critical of either PC or TP. How can I? But we have to push on!!!! is this a wind up?? push on how?? coates as invested over 20m this season, we are one of the top spenders in the prem and still have money to spend! pulis spunked it up the wall. we would all love some sheikh come in with billions but it aint going happen, coates as done wonders for this club. |
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Post by iwb1960 on Oct 5, 2008 17:55:44 GMT
FIckle - said it before and say it again - the word which best describe most football fans but especially Stoke Fans.
Stop moaning and enjoy the season - support your team ffs
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Post by potters 22 on Oct 5, 2008 18:02:40 GMT
well said iwb1960!!!!
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Post by knowingeye on Oct 5, 2008 18:05:00 GMT
TP can only spend what his budget allows. I'm not being critical of either PC or TP. How can I? But we have to push on!!!! is this a wind up?? push on how?? . No, it's a reality check deano. Enjoy life at the lower end of the league knowing that Spurs investment will ensure they start to get points? I get the feeling that many Stoke fans, I talk to, just want to enjoy the Premier league knowing that the inevitable will happen at the end of this season. Is that what fans on here want? Is that the plan PC and TP are working to? I don't think so!!!!! |
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Post by Mozzaa on Oct 5, 2008 18:05:35 GMT
I can't believe people are having a pop at him!. All I know is that he's getting Bet 365 into the Chinese Gambling Market & that would more than likely lead to Billionaire Chinese investors...Coatesy would never leave us in the Shit & how about yeah all of us stokies stop been so fucking negative after a loss, I know it's not nice & we were awful to say the least today but ffs enjoy the season & stop making stupid threads like TP should go during Xmas etc.
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Post by daverichards on Oct 5, 2008 18:05:50 GMT
Stop moaning and enjoy the season - support your team ffs apart from a last winute winner against Villa and a classic pulis ball point against a miss firing Liverpool what has there been to enjoy this season ? |
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warbo234
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well play how we want we are stoke city well play how we want.
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Post by warbo234 on Oct 5, 2008 18:05:59 GMT
Yeh lets get rid of Coates and get some Icelanders in. Coates has the good of the club at heart some foreigner investor wouldn't give a shit about the club remember the Icelanders.  |
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 5, 2008 18:09:28 GMT
I just don't think investment is an issue.
Whatever failings we have as a club, the budget Pulis was given certainly isn't one of them.
Would it be great if we had £100m to spend? Yes.
Is £21m a very good budget for a promoted club? Yes
Is it enough to give you a fighting chance of staying up if spent well? Yes
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Post by daverichards on Oct 5, 2008 18:16:11 GMT
Yeh lets get rid of Coates and get some Icelanders in. Coates has the good of the club at heart some foreigner investor wouldn't give a shit about the club remember the Icelanders. would they be the same Icelanders that rescued the club from the brink of administration which Coates and Moxey had taken it to in Late 1999 ? |
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Post by iwb1960 on Oct 5, 2008 18:33:26 GMT
Ilford
Did you here Pulis on MOTD2 when asked about the Iclandics.
More or less said they were lovely people but do not understand the history surrounding our football teams or share the passion.
This is the same for Americans, Arab Consotriums and Cockney Mafia Millionaires who take a fancy to any football club.
Whereas we have local guy who made good - he loves the team and understands its supporters he should not again be berated on here.
We should be thankful for what we have and have achieved and thank Peter Coates for this.
IWB1960
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well play how we want we are stoke city well play how we want.
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Post by warbo234 on Oct 5, 2008 18:43:10 GMT
My exact point well said.  |
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Post by MrMagic on Oct 5, 2008 18:49:18 GMT
I think Coates has done a marvellous job for us. We have spent a small fortune on players, and Pulis has been backed more than any manager in the clubs history.
IF we go down, it'll be to do with the manager not the investment.
We have spent 3X what Hull have.
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Post by Cupid Stunt on Oct 5, 2008 18:49:33 GMT
Dave, we are in the premier league for what will be one season. Get used to it. Yes we're going to try and stay up, but seriously, the best thing for our club is that we become stable and consistent. If we are to become a yo-yo club, then let it be. 7 games in and people seem to think we're at our lowest position for decades. When I started going Stoke we were in League 1 ffs. Coates has svae dthe club, got us back into the top flight, and people seem to think a foreign investment will help us. Some of you really need to pinch yourselves and remember who we are playing!  |
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Post by crimesy on Oct 5, 2008 18:50:19 GMT
hes spent over 20 fuckin million! what more do you want from him! if anyone is to blame its pulis for spending it on shit yeh thats it.. pulis! he's done F all for the club.. anyone could have got us promoted last year...  |
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Post by premierpotter08 on Oct 5, 2008 19:03:12 GMT
Peter Coates has come back to an average championship club with debts and a ground owned by the local council. We now own our ground, have debts under control and are a premiership club. For me Peter Coates has been the clubs saviour and I'm glad we have an actuall supporter as the owner of the club. He has made the ship steady and we have to thank him for that, plus he's backed TP with a £20m budget for the seaso, we really can't ask any more of PC. I hope PC stays at the club and finds the investor he is looking for. As for TP well I am an admirer of him for getting us where he has and yes he does deserve to be given the time to see the season through with the players he has bought in. IMO if/when we go down will be the time to reveiw TP's position at the club, as the saying goes " you live and die by the players you bring to the club". If we are relegated we are relegated with TP's players and IMO it will be time to bring in a new manager with new ideas, get rid of the deadwood and start again with the parachute payments.  |
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Post by MrMagic on Oct 5, 2008 19:03:50 GMT
hes spent over 20 fuckin million! what more do you want from him! if anyone is to blame its pulis for spending it on shit yeh thats it.. pulis! he's done F all for the club.. anyone could have got us promoted last year... I don't think anyone is saying that now are they If there is something wrong are we supposed to say nowt because we should be so grateful that we got promoted? If you are only as good as your last game, our last good game was against Everton. At least we had a go in that one. No one is going to complain about losing if we make a fist of it. |
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Post by stokemark on Oct 5, 2008 19:10:40 GMT
I think that the point that is being made is that to truly 'push on' at this level you need to be financed by billionaires.
Dont think anyone is having a go at Coates
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