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Post by stoke30 on Aug 17, 2008 17:12:44 GMT
NOTHING
take a look at this paper cutting from bolton news,best thing do is get rid of the id cards they make no difference
Football fans clash in town centre
3:01pm Sunday 17th August 2008
By Staff Reporter »
FOOTBALL fans were arrested before and after Bolton Wanderers game against Stoke on Saturday.
A group of supporters were involved in a brawl in Great Moor Street, in the town centre, at around 2pm. There was also a disturbance after the match.
Seven arrests were made for minor public order offences. Four were Stoke fans and three were Wanderers supporters
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Post by GlynDerby on Aug 17, 2008 17:16:01 GMT
They make the club £10 a go ;D Every little helps  |
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Post by You want salad on kebab boss? on Aug 17, 2008 17:21:19 GMT
Sit in your wallet till away matches !?
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Post by daverichards on Aug 17, 2008 19:10:23 GMT
They make the club £10 a go ;D Every little helps dont be daft they make no money on them at all |
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Post by muckakev on Aug 17, 2008 19:37:34 GMT
Did anyone get asked to produce their ID on entry to the reebok? The wife and I walked straight in and were not asked for our cards,
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Post by stokieforever on Aug 17, 2008 19:39:16 GMT
Yeah everyone in our queue had to show em, didnt really check em though
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Post by swipers on Aug 17, 2008 19:47:54 GMT
Mine was checked by a Stoke steward outside gate 1.
ID cards won't stop someone intent on fighting travelling and having a ruck with the local knuckle-draggers will it ??? It will help prevent trouble inside the ground (most of the time) - only recall seeing 2 locals being dragged past the front of the stand to a rousing "time to go....." ;D
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Post by mitchandtitch on Aug 17, 2008 20:02:23 GMT
ours got checked too
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Post by RobPa on Aug 17, 2008 21:43:33 GMT
i got mine checked!
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Post by Winge on Aug 17, 2008 22:13:27 GMT
ID cards !! I have mine, but applied for my 11year old daughter over 2 months ago and still have not had it back!! I was told 5 weeks, but it has been 8weeks up to now!! Typical Stoke...s**te
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Post by DannyStokie on Aug 17, 2008 22:16:13 GMT
We got checked on gate 2.
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Post by stokieblokie on Aug 17, 2008 22:30:37 GMT
Winge. I'd love to know what would happen if you pitched up to the steward and told him your young lads card hadn't come yet. Would he really turn you away?
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Post by BuzzB on Aug 17, 2008 22:38:58 GMT
we got checked, have to laugh though, my lads photo bears hardly any resemblence to him now, how old are these thigs, 5 / 6 years?? He'l get refused one of these days ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Alvechurch Assassin on Aug 17, 2008 22:39:22 GMT
I was asked, fumbled with my wallet, and was told to just go through.
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Post by lesleystoke on Aug 17, 2008 22:41:10 GMT
Stokieb no they wouldn't dne it tried it got in on 3 or mre occasion's last season, and my sister and 2 mate's went yester and wasn't asked 4 away card's.
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Post by stokieblokie on Aug 17, 2008 23:34:10 GMT
The cards are a joke.
We were lucky enough to have an old stoke player with us from the 50's yesterday who is visiting from abroad. (I won't say who it was).
Apparently, he called the box office to buy a ticket and they asked him if he had an away card. He said no as he's visiting the country for the first time in a long time but would love to see the game. He said he used to play for stoke and if he brought his passport as proof could they do him a letter to show the stewards to allow him in.
Shockingly, he was told no. He had to have an away card.
So he sat in the Bolton End with us.
hmmmm
Forward 50 years from now...
I used to play for stoke but live abroard and don't have an away card. Can I go to an away match? I'm sorry Mr Fuller, you need an away card.
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Post by guernseydave on Aug 17, 2008 23:40:24 GMT
Increase IDiocy, increase Trueness and increase Smugness   GD |
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Post by GazMcNicol on Aug 18, 2008 6:41:10 GMT
What happens if you get turned down for an ID card?
Do they notify you, or just not get one?
Has anyone been turned down for one? (I've never heard anyone say they have)
Answers on a postcard please....
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yoc
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Post by yoc on Aug 18, 2008 8:13:36 GMT
The sad fact of the ID Card fiasco is that 95% of past and present hooligans, N40 etc have got a kosher card. By far the largest group of people who are prevented from attending away games, are people who have never been in trouble but due to a political stance or other views, will not apply for a card, a fact that should shame both The Club and The Fans Forum.
I believe Saturdays troubles go some way to proving 'the above'.
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Post by banburypotter on Aug 18, 2008 8:38:37 GMT
i always show my id card at no extra effort, as i have to open my wallet to take my match ticket out and there in one of the pockets of my wallet with the plastic window is my id card, i doubt they look at the picture, more the card itself, i suppose they see that many they know that it is the id card.
banburybeys photo looks nothing like him now but he gets in okay.
as far as preventing trouble, it will if the offender is arrested and his card taken off him as he will be 'red striped' by the club and will not be able to get tickets as it will be on their computer at the club.
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yoc
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Post by yoc on Aug 18, 2008 8:43:22 GMT
If anyone is arrested and convicted they are banned from all games anyway, what difference does an ID card make?
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Post by RAF on Aug 18, 2008 8:51:31 GMT
It's fucking ace for scraping ice off your windscreen in the winter.
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Post by danpotter on Aug 18, 2008 9:07:26 GMT
I STILL don't see what peoples problem is with the ID cards, I've had one since they were first introduced and as banburypotter says it's no extra effort to show it when you go in.
Maybe people with issues with them have got something to hide, I certainly haven't and if it means less trouble in the ground I'm all for them!!
Can't say I've seen much (if any trouble in the away end at grounds since they've been introduced. Obviously they're not going to prevent d*******s travelling to the game and causing trouble away from the ground but at least it doesn't happen inside.
We have already got a poor reputation as fans with other clubs/media, removing the ID cards will see a return back to the bad old days, something we don't want, especially given the media coverage of the Premier League.
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Post by RAF on Aug 18, 2008 9:37:47 GMT
I don't have a problem with it.
It just happens to be ace for scraping ice off your windscreen in the winter.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 18, 2008 9:46:05 GMT
They bring ridicule and shame on law abiding people
They bring ridicule and shame on Tony Scholes
They bring ridicule and shame on Peter Coates
They bring ridicule and shame on the the Fans Forum
And as our very own Malcolm Clarke is the grand fromage of the FSF and the supporters of his club are being senselessly abused like no other supporter in the country, they bring ridicule and shame on him and his toothless organisation.
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Post by tijuanabrass on Aug 18, 2008 10:01:29 GMT
As a revenue stream for the club, shouldn't they bump up the prices for the premier league?
25 quid woudn't be too much to ask and it would ease the fight over tickets for away games.
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Post by Premier League Busta Rhymes on Aug 18, 2008 10:08:36 GMT
We must have well over 20,000 ID card holders now = £200,000+.
Surely it would be more cost effective to employ an intern on basic salary to do this job which I doubt would cost more than £12,000 per year.
It really does make you wonder where the money is going ???
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Post by guernseydave on Aug 18, 2008 16:21:29 GMT
Thats all well and good Momo however the Trolly Dolly is indeed correct. They do make excellent ice scrapers and are also useful for cutting my coke.
GD
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Post by stokieblokie on Aug 18, 2008 16:32:18 GMT
No problem with them other than:
1. They're taking 8 weeks to process when the club site says 14 days. Considering people are paying for the service they should have prepared for the inevitable deluge of applications and got some temps in to process them.
2. There's no mechanism for people visiting from outside stoke/the country to be given, say, a day pass (even if you're an ex Stoke player!). Unless you know someone associated with the club to get you on a guest list.
3. They don't really seem to take them off the trouble makers.
4. If they're designed to keep the bad boys away from games, why don't they have to be shown at home games?
5. Why should little kids need to have them?
6. Why not issue them automatically to season ticket holders?
Apart from that, I think they're good.
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Post by rambo61 on Aug 18, 2008 16:44:13 GMT
The I.D cards are another way for opposition stewards, police etc,to give Stokies in the ground a hard time. Banburry potter will testify to that after he had his taken off him at Southampton,and he ,s a pussycat who would never start trouble! It,s a big stick for the powers that be to say "Do this or we,ll tke your card off you!" When it comes down to it they actuall mean nothing at all. At Wolves last season the old bill were manhandling us(unusual for W.Mids police I know) When I said to the Inspector "we,ve all got away cards you know?" his answer was " Idont give a fuck ,now move!!" S.C.F.C use them so they can say that they,re doing everything they can to combat our "hooligan" element..
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