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Post by BrianLeicsStokie on Jul 30, 2008 16:07:08 GMT
Cunts- now the rest will follow suit.
I pay when the bill lands, no direct debit, will take the piss and let it nearly go legal before i pay them - tossers.
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Post by myleftboot on Jul 30, 2008 16:15:08 GMT
Complete arseholes. Shocking prices, shockling customer service and to be honest change your company if you can, sharpish.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 30, 2008 16:16:14 GMT
Come on lads you don't want the shareholders to take a hit do you. What's the odd pensioner freezing to death compared to a nice healthy dividend for the already wealthy? Sandy Lane's not cheap you know.
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Post by mumf14 on Jul 30, 2008 16:23:31 GMT
I've heard some of our pensioners plan on moving to Dender to become 'Benders' and will all huddle together at Bedtime to keep warm.....
During the daytime they will sip halves at BOZZIES BAR..!Lovely....
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Post by myleftboot on Jul 30, 2008 16:24:00 GMT
I shall forgive them when my grandad gets the £300 back they owe him. Only been 8 months ;D
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Jul 30, 2008 17:07:19 GMT
It's no joking matter..our last gas bill was £298 and electric £176...its 30 per-cent of our monthly income and now gas is going up 35 per-cent??? Fucking scandalous Gas..electric...no competition with coal anymore And theres no direct link between gas and oil prices... And under a LABOUR government FFS It is a fucking disgrace..and I for one shan't be paying..I'll burn a British Gas Director first
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 30, 2008 17:40:06 GMT
Of course if we were French we'd just refuse to pay it
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2008 18:08:28 GMT
fuck me! I thought EDF was bad at 22%!
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Post by ihaveadream on Jul 30, 2008 18:08:46 GMT
When British Gas were the sole provider of gas I had nothing but trouble from them. They issued an erroneous bill for £600 and despite my making numerous phonecalls and being told the matter would be sorted out they sent a baliff round 1 day while I was at work. I contacted the ombudsman and changed supplier as soon as other suppliers were available. Nowadays, despite the fact I have a no salespeople sign on my door BG still constantly knock trying to regain my custom.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Jul 30, 2008 18:43:10 GMT
British Gas shares have risen from £8..this time last year..up to £14..and now are about £12...so thats a minimum of 4 grand for anyone who's got 1,000 So they can't rely complain about rising gas prices...but for the other fifty odd million that don't have shares...like me...its legal-theft...robbing the vast majority to enrich the few As Sheik MoMo says...The French wouldn't put up with it..so why the fuck do we? As Noel Coward once said; The Stately Homes of England How Mightily they stand.. To show the upper-classes.. Still have the upper-hand BASTARDS
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Post by markscfc72 on Jul 30, 2008 19:45:53 GMT
according to that martin lews, from moneysavingexpert.com you are in most cases best off 'capping' your energy bills i.e. avoiding any future rises
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2008 20:04:48 GMT
I'm on Click2Energy which I think is capped. Fook knows at what level though. Knowing my luck I'm protected from a 38% rise but not a 37% one. My bills overall have risen by £170 per month since Jan 2007, when I moved house and ensured all of my utilities were the 'best deals on offer'. Severn Trent continue to take the piss though, and they fooking lose as much water in an hour as the average person uses in a year. add-in fuel increases, we're getting squeezed to fook people, where will i end ???
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Post by santy on Jul 31, 2008 10:32:38 GMT
British Gas just announced profits of £1 billion.
So lets take that into account, with the costs of purchasing gas, distribution etc etc they have still made 1 billion pounds which is an enormous profit. Now they're putting up costs by 35% they could quite easily carry off cost increases of 35% - something needs doing these companies are saving their already ludicrous profitability at our expense.
There is no way these price increases are justifiable with profits like that, there should be a nationalised alternative which operates on just covering its costs - maybe with some profitability.
It'll be half-interesting (in purely a consequential way for these companies) to see what happens to the numbers of people who suffer from hypothermia this winter.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Jul 31, 2008 10:45:58 GMT
Exactly santy...what these greedy bastards are saying is that their profits aren't 'large' enough...or to use British Gas terminology 'reasonable' profits
The problem is that the Government are too busy sucking-up to big business and trying to capture 'floating' Tory voters..which means they are drifting further and further to the right...completely abandoning the traditional Labour voters and the more vulnerable in society...
There is no justification for a 35 per-cent increase in gas prices whatsoever
And just for the record...keep your eye on the Water industry..because thats the next 'utility' to jack prices up..they'll be announcing 20 to 30 per-cent rises in the near future
There is NO such thing as a free-lunch..and we are all starting to pay for privatisation...which was bound to happen sooner or later
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2008 16:10:07 GMT
.....and there doesn't seem to be a way of referencing whether or not these rises are properly justified. For example, does the Government vet the rises in terms of asking for a 'Bill of Materials' - ie where exactly do these rises come from, line-by-line?* A 35% increase is preposterous, and is akin to the cost of a litre of petrol going from 80p to all of a sudden 108p. Questions would be asked. * Maybe they just don't give a fook? One thing is almost certain, many many old folk will get sucked in to abject 'Fuel Poverty' - and not the type of 'Fuel Poverty' some families find themselves in - real 'I can't afford to heat the house even though it's minus-5' poverty And then, as Santy suggested, it'll take it's toll. But it's all OK, because they'll send us some more light bulbs to help us become more 'energy efficient'. The 8p you save over the year could make all the difference.
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Post by dukedj on Jul 31, 2008 17:18:20 GMT
I'm on Click2Energy which I think is capped. Fook knows at what level though. Knowing my luck I'm protected from a 38% rise but not a 37% one. My bills overall have risen by £170 per month since Jan 2007, when I moved house and ensured all of my utilities were the 'best deals on offer'. Severn Trent continue to take the piss though, and they fooking lose as much water in an hour as the average person uses in a year. add-in fuel increases, we're getting squeezed to fook people, where will i end ???
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Post by dukedj on Jul 31, 2008 17:25:21 GMT
tried to get a water meter installed from 7 trent no way because i live on my own in a 2 up 2 down they know it would be cheaper for me
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Post by ricksastokie on Jul 31, 2008 23:06:19 GMT
Isn't EDF owned by the French and E-on by the Germans? I wonder if they have increased energy costs in their own countries by the same amount.
Perhaps we are subsidising our European cousins. That would be nice of us wouldn't it?
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Post by santy on Aug 1, 2008 6:32:09 GMT
Isn't EDF owned by the French and E-on by the Germans? I wonder if they have increased energy costs in their own countries by the same amount. Perhaps we are subsidising our European cousins. That would be nice of us wouldn't it? Funny you should say that, they blame these increases on "storage capabilities" but in all fairness, when you're making profits in excess of 1 billion a year, surely you can invest some of that money in improving storage capacity. Of course, that would then mean they would have even less of a leg to stand on when doing things like this so they just pocket all the profits and leave the current infrastructure in place. The europeans all get cheaper gas because they have like 100 days storage to our 13.
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Post by bossthemidfield on Aug 1, 2008 12:01:29 GMT
either way you look at it it is criminal...
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Aug 1, 2008 12:46:35 GMT
So how bad does it have to get before the revolution starts. Capatalist pig beholden to ex communist pigs! .
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Aug 1, 2008 13:20:02 GMT
As we speak..the Government are looking at a 'windfall' tax on British Gas..to 'cap' their level of profit..at about one thousand million pounds a year..and thats AFTER the windfall-tax Something similar used to happen in the 1980's with the Banks..when they were told by The Government to raise interest-rates..they made billions of billions of pounds for every quarter of a per-cent rise in interest rates...vast fortunes were made in The City of London..because the Government abolished the 'windfall' tax on Banks...interest-rates went up from 4 per-cent to 16 per-cent at one point...champagne flowed in the City of London..as hundreds of thousands of people had their homes re-possesed... Of course, The Labour Government didn't bring back the windfall-tax on banks..they left them alone and even let them set interest-rates themselves and these Banks started throwing money at the mortgage market... We have the most expensive Gas/Electric in Western Europe because we have the least competitve utility markets... If you 'let the market decide' as somebody used to say..you end up with the biggest/strongest companies taking over the smaller ones...monopolising markets..price-fixing..and dictating prices..no matter what the COST to it's 'customers' Private wealth...public squalor..as Gailbraith used to say
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2008 13:37:02 GMT
the problem as I see it with the windfall tax is that if the Government impose it, what's to say the utilities won't just hike prices again to get back to their original level of profitability?
If the rate at which I paid Income Tax rate rose by 5%, I would seek to cover my loss in 'bring home' by getting a pay rise.
In addition, who would benefit from the price concessions - the elderly? or everyone?
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Aug 1, 2008 13:53:50 GMT
The idea behind the windfall-tax..is to use the money to help the most vulnerable..like the elderly...chronically sick etc..'targeting' specific groups..the utilities would have to set up a special-fund that these groups can tap into...already happens but on a much smaller scale Another option is public-ownership of the utilitys Or non-profitable organisations..as in Sweden, Norway..where social costs are also taken into account Problem is..we've drifted that far to the right that anyone who dares to question the privatisation-programme is accused of being a Commie-Bastard FFS we're not all like Serpico
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Post by GRUMPY 1 on Aug 1, 2008 19:54:52 GMT
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Aug 1, 2008 20:04:30 GMT
Very interesting dixo Have some karma I'm amazed by the lack of interest on here to these massive price-hikes/legal-theft Presumably, only half a dozen posters have to pay any bills
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2008 21:30:20 GMT
what's the idea behind that then??? ???
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2008 21:33:33 GMT
Very interesting dixo Have some karma I'm amazed by the lack of interest on here to these massive price-hikes/legal-theft Presumably, only half a dozen posters have to pay any bills I'm surprised too wizard. If Stoke had have put their Season Ticket prices up by 35% there would be riots
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Post by santy on Aug 1, 2008 22:28:40 GMT
Surely these companies are price-fixing... so why the hell does no one do anything about it? They get on to tesco and asda quick enough about skimming an extra 2 pence on the milk quick enough, but the gas companies, take an extra few hundred quid from about 35+ million people (taking into account only people who pay or contribute towards gas bills not children etc) and they're like "too bad, you're all in a state now arent you!"
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Post by GRUMPY 1 on Aug 2, 2008 16:55:33 GMT
what's the idea behind that then??? ??? According to british gas they have to pay transco or whoever a price per distance the gas is carried through the pipes. They just thought it would be a good idea to pass these prices over to the good old customer so as not to affect their profits. Nice of them eh?
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