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Post by armitagestokie on Jul 3, 2008 15:05:17 GMT
Aren't you sick of all those high paid teachers?
Their hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and they only work nine or ten months a year!
It's time we put things in perspective and pay them for what they do...baby-sit!
We can get that for less than minimum wage. That's right. I would give them £3.00 an
hour and only the hours they worked, not any of that silly
planning time.
That would be a day (7:45 AM to 4:00 PM with 45 min. off for lunch).
Each parent should pay £19.50 a day for these teachers to baby-sit their children.
Now, how many do they teach in a day... maybe 30?
So that's 19.50 X 30 = £585.00 a day.
However, remember they only work 180 days a year!
I am not going to pay them for any vacations. Let's see . ...
that's £585 x 180 = £105,300 per year. (Hold on!my calculator must need batteries!)
What about those special teachers and the ones with Master's degrees?
Well, we could pay them minimum wage just to be fair, £5.52 an hour.
That would be £5.52 times 6.5 hours times 30 children times 180 days = £193,752.00 per year.
Wait a minute, there is something wrong here!
Make a teacher smile;
send this to someone who appreciates teachers!
(Average teacher salary £21,000/180 days = £116.66 per day/30students = £3.88/ 6.5 hours = £0.59 per hour per student.)
Very inexpensive babysitter, and they
even educate your kids!> Crazy, eh!> ;D
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Post by scfcmatt on Jul 3, 2008 15:14:55 GMT
Teachers are toss
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Post by Yorkshirepotter on Jul 3, 2008 19:10:34 GMT
Teachers get £21k a year to read from a book and take 14weeks holiday a year.
Nurses get the same for saving peoples lives, 13 hour shifts, half that holiday and get treated like shit.
Theres the real fuck up in this country.
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Post by R.I.P Fullers Nan on Jul 3, 2008 19:41:09 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 3, 2008 19:50:49 GMT
Teachers get £21k a year to read from a book and take 14weeks holiday a year. Nurses get the same for saving peoples lives, 13 hour shifts, half that holiday and get treated like shit. Theres the real fuck up in this country. Without Teachers, there would be no nurses, you misguided fool. Or firefighters, or Doctors or any other profession. The only f*ck up is the one in your head.  |
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Post by rhodesy on Jul 3, 2008 20:18:36 GMT
And you are a knobhead well done. |
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Post by Yorkshirepotter on Jul 3, 2008 22:17:52 GMT
Teachers get £21k a year to read from a book and take 14weeks holiday a year. Nurses get the same for saving peoples lives, 13 hour shifts, half that holiday and get treated like shit. Theres the real fuck up in this country. Without Teachers, there would be no nurses, you misguided fool. Or firefighters, or Doctors or any other profession. The only f*ck up is the one in your head. Misguided fool? No, just sick of hearing whiney teachers moaning about how hard done to they are. Yes they are doing an important job, but too many are more bothered about the salery and too quick to go on strike (or threaten it) than they are to teach. Fuck me, even the police were threatening to strike yet NHS staff have to sign a no strike clause in thier contracts to be able to work so have no ability to blackmail the government like the other public sector workers. Do you honestley believe that teachers are more valuable than medical staff? |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 3, 2008 22:42:07 GMT
Without Teachers, there would be no nurses, you misguided fool. Or firefighters, or Doctors or any other profession. The only f*ck up is the one in your head. Misguided fool? No, just sick of hearing whiney teachers moaning about how hard done to they are. Yes they are doing an important job, but too many are more bothered about the salery and too quick to go on strike (or threaten it) than they are to teach. Fuck me, even the police were threatening to strike yet NHS staff have to sign a no strike clause in thier contracts to be able to work so have no ability to blackmail the government like the other public sector workers. Do you honestley believe that teachers are more valuable than medical staff? Haven't you honestly realised that there wouldn't be a medical staff without teachers? Where have I said that other public sector roles are less important? I haven't. Any worker has the right to strike, as long as they ballot properly, it's the law, so you're incorrect there. Teachers have been on strike ONCE in the last 20 years, that was recently and that was the NUT not the ATL or NASUWT. I don't mind debating with you but it's important the facts are clear. What do you classify as "too many" Teachers? 100? 100.000? It's an important subject so I'd be interested to know. It's clear you have no idea what is actually going in the state school system, I'm writing with 13 years experience. |
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Post by Batfink on Jul 3, 2008 23:27:45 GMT
Misguided fool? No, just sick of hearing whiney teachers moaning about how hard done to they are. Yes they are doing an important job, but too many are more bothered about the salery and too quick to go on strike (or threaten it) than they are to teach. Fuck me, even the police were threatening to strike yet NHS staff have to sign a no strike clause in thier contracts to be able to work so have no ability to blackmail the government like the other public sector workers. Do you honestley believe that teachers are more valuable than medical staff? Haven't you honestly realised that there wouldn't be a medical staff without teachers? Where have I said that other public sector roles are less important? I haven't. Any worker has the right to strike, as long as they ballot properly, it's the law, so you're incorrect there. Teachers have been on strike ONCE in the last 20 years, that was recently and that was the NUT not the ATL or NASUWT. I don't mind debating with you but it's important the facts are clear. What do you classify as "too many" Teachers? 100? 100.000? It's an important subject so I'd be interested to know. It's clear you have no idea what is actually going in the state school system, I'm writing with 13 years experience. haha, you can have some karma! If people understood the amount of work that is done by teachers then there would be no moaning. I am realising what a difficult, stressful, tiresome and time consuming job being a teacher is (I still love it tough!) |
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Post by yes-mate on Jul 3, 2008 23:30:56 GMT
teachers can fuck off. most just read out of a book , and when i used to ask them something they wouldnt have a scooby do and just tell you to read the book. twats
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Post by Batfink on Jul 3, 2008 23:34:54 GMT
teachers can fuck off. most just read out of a book , and when i used to ask them something they wouldnt have a scooby do and just tell you to read the book. twats yes mate |
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Jul 4, 2008 7:13:05 GMT
My Mrs. is a head teacher, although close to Stoke her school is under Staffs rather than Stoke.
I can't speak for all teachers but the ones I see at her school work extremely hard for every child, they are the hardest working people I see. As for my Mrs. I've never seen anyone try or work harder. You should see what goes on in schools if you think they "read from books."
You also don't mention that most teachers have gone to Uni to get their qualifications. My Wife went Sixth form for 2 years, Uni for 4 and has still done a Masters degree (and another something) whilst working and paid for it by herself.
You just see the amount of holidays and form a view. Go past most schools in the holidays and the teachers are in, and when they do have a holiday they have to pay full price for doing so.
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Post by dadofsam on Jul 4, 2008 7:55:45 GMT
and rubbish footballers get a teacher's wage every single week
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Post by armitagestokie on Jul 4, 2008 10:59:45 GMT
Somebody told me is right!! If all the 'doubting Thomas's' on this site who think it's a doddal everyone one of you HAD the chance to join up---come on there is a national shortage.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2008 11:39:55 GMT
WTF - so basically you are saying that without teachers there wouldn't be any other profession?
What a pisser - your not that fucking important!!
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Post by sheffieldstokie82 on Jul 4, 2008 13:01:25 GMT
WTF - so basically you are saying that without teachers there wouldn't be any other profession? What a pisser - your not that fucking important!! How do you think medical staff learn how to be medical staff??? This thread is both amazing and scary in equal proportion! |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 4, 2008 13:26:47 GMT
WTF - so basically you are saying that without teachers there wouldn't be any other profession? What a pisser - your not that fucking important!! Important in what way? Important as in without teachers, i.e. educators, there wouldn't be other professions, bricklayers to nuclear scientists all have to be taught, do they not? Not rocket science to understand that basic premise, is it? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2008 13:31:17 GMT
Correct me if I'm wrong but who taught:
Da Vinci?
Einstein?
Pasteur?
Newton?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 4, 2008 13:46:08 GMT
Correct me if I'm wrong but who taught: Da Vinci? Einstein? Pasteur? Newton? My turn to say WTF. Can you not understand the point of this thread? Do you not understand that all of the people above would have had some education at some point in their lives? What is it that you don't get? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2008 13:50:26 GMT
So who was it who taught Newton about the law of gravity then??
What you are not getting is that the world would not come to a standstill without teachers!!
People discover new things, techniques etc... without the aid of 'teachers'.
People survive without them - you are not really that important - but are a bunch of overpaid, whinging baby sitters!!
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 4, 2008 14:17:55 GMT
So who was it who taught Newton about the law of gravity then?? What you are not getting is that the world would not come to a standstill without teachers!! People discover new things, techniques etc... without the aid of 'teachers'. People survive without them - you are not really that important - but are a bunch of overpaid, whinging baby sitters!! I challenge you to spend a term, no a week, in a struggling comprehensive school, then come back and try and repeat what you said. Newton couldn't have formulated his theories without being taught how to work them out, or think. Are you really so narrow minded that you fail to understand this basic concept? You know nothing, can't see the point in discussing this further with you. |
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Jul 4, 2008 14:19:54 GMT
Even if he learn't the laws of gravity all on his own, he wouldn't have been able to right it down ;D
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 4, 2008 14:27:51 GMT
Even if he learn't the laws of gravity all on his own, he wouldn't have been able to right it down ;D Spot on Sir, well said!! Have some karma!! ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2008 14:30:51 GMT
So who was it who taught Newton about the law of gravity then?? What you are not getting is that the world would not come to a standstill without teachers!! People discover new things, techniques etc... without the aid of 'teachers'. People survive without them - you are not really that important - but are a bunch of overpaid, whinging baby sitters!! I challenge you to spend a tem, no a week, in a struggling comprehensive school, then come back and try and repeat what you said. Newton couldn't have formulated his theories without being taught how to work them out, or think. Are you really so narrow minded that you fail to understand this basic concept? You know nothing, can't see the point in discussing this further with you. So you are telling me that teachers teach you to think hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha People can learn things for themselves - they do not have to be taught!! Who 'taught' the first ever man on earth to kill an animal to eat? Who 'teaches' a baby to crawl? The delusion of your own self importance is astounding!! Oh...and as for a struggling comprehensive...is that not your fault for not being good enough?? |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 4, 2008 14:45:41 GMT
I challenge you to spend a tem, no a week, in a struggling comprehensive school, then come back and try and repeat what you said. Newton couldn't have formulated his theories without being taught how to work them out, or think. Are you really so narrow minded that you fail to understand this basic concept? You know nothing, can't see the point in discussing this further with you. So you are telling me that teachers teach you to think hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha People can learn things for themselves - they do not have to be taught!! Who 'taught' the first ever man on earth to kill an animal to eat? Who 'teaches' a baby to crawl? The delusion of your own self importance is astounding!! Oh...and as for a struggling comprehensive...is that not your fault for not being good enough?? Thinking is a key skill that is now taught in all schools, shows how much you know about this subject........nothing. I suggest you get your head out of wherever you've put it and wake up. Somehow I don't think you will. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2008 14:52:46 GMT
Classic teachers answer that! Answer / pick on the point you can talk about but ignore the rest of the post that you can't answer! Teaching people to think...how very 1984*!! *Its a book by George Orwell |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 4, 2008 15:05:35 GMT
Classic teachers answer that! Answer / pick on the point you can talk about but ignore the rest of the post that you can't answer! Teaching people to think...how very 1984*!! *Its a book by George Orwell Which part of your post did I not answer? Your third rate jibe about me? Why on earth should I stoop to your level of cheap shots and insults? You mistake thinking for brainwashing my friend. Why don't you google "critical thinking skills" or "cognitive reckoning" and come back to me when you have something of worth to write, in the meantime, enjoy your weekend. |
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Post by yes-mate on Jul 4, 2008 15:26:25 GMT
teachers pet eh?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 4, 2008 15:32:42 GMT
Yeah teachers do nothing! Fuckwits  |
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Post by armitagestokie on Jul 4, 2008 18:55:53 GMT
If you can read this thank a teacher.
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