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Post by atillathehoneybee on May 11, 2024 19:01:47 GMT
Pretty happy with them 3 ( barring a huge goal diff swing) Cant really see them dominating to the extent of Leicester, potentially next season could be wide open...
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Post by PotterLog on May 11, 2024 19:04:47 GMT
Bit depressing that it’s the three that went up. None of them made much of a fist of it in the end
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Post by yellowsnowman on May 11, 2024 19:09:28 GMT
Yeah none of them really looked like staying up. Should be another exciting next season. Will Kompany be at Burnley do you think?
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Post by cvillestokie on May 11, 2024 19:13:16 GMT
Burnley will bounce straight back up. Luton may be one of those that hits the playoffs. No idea what to think about Sheff Utd.
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Post by apb1 on May 12, 2024 5:34:22 GMT
They’ll all get 40 odd million (?) in parachute payments which will give them a real advantage over us I guess. But their current squads must be pretty gash.
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 12, 2024 6:39:51 GMT
I can see Burnley dominating as there squads pretty much the same one as last season. Luton is a strange one. They did far better than I expected but they lack quality. They might make the playoffs. Sheff U were awful and I don’t see them pulling up any trees. If Leeds or Saints go up the 3 promoted to the PL are stronger.
In relation to those coming up from Div 1
Pompey Derby Bolton or Oxford
I’d say they’re stronger than those coming down though a lot depends on how big they spend. Brum going down was defo a good thing as they’re a big club. A lot of people saying Pompey are a big club but I’m not that convinced. Don’t see them doing an Ipswich. Likewise Derby though not sure how wealthy their current owners are.
As it stands next season I’d go
1st Burnley 2nd Leeds or Saints
22nd Blackburn 23rd Bolton or Oxford 24th Plymouth
I think we’ll do better next season and see us 10th-12th which will be a big step forwards
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 12, 2024 7:21:59 GMT
I can see Burnley dominating as there squads pretty much the same one as last season. Luton is a strange one. They did far better than I expected but they lack quality. They might make the playoffs. Sheff U were awful and I don’t see them pulling up any trees. If Leeds or Saints go up the 3 promoted to the PL are stronger. In relation to those coming up from Div 1 Pompey Derby Bolton or Oxford I’d say they’re stronger than those coming down though a lot depends on how big they spend. Brum going down was defo a good thing as they’re a big club. A lot of people saying Pompey are a big club but I’m not that convinced. Don’t see them doing an Ipswich. Likewise Derby though not sure how wealthy their current owners are. As it stands next season I’d go 1st Burnley 2nd Leeds or Saints 22nd Blackburn 23rd Bolton or Oxford 24th Plymouth I think we’ll do better next season and see us 10th-12th which will be a big step forwards Don’t know about the ones coming down to be honest but you’re probably right. However, I think you’re wrong about the teams coming up. I’ve watched Derby several times and know loads of ST holders and they are gash. There two best players are Cashin and Bird. Bird will be at Brizzle and Cashin likely to be sold. They’ve got two strikers over 35 and no real money to replace them Clowes is a rich man but not a fool and he won’t splash the cash like Mel Morris did. Portsmouth might just stay up but I’ve only seen them the once where they got trounced by the aforementioned gash Derby. Bolton and Oxford are miles off. Brum and Huddersfield would dick all three of them.
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 12, 2024 7:45:33 GMT
I can see Burnley dominating as there squads pretty much the same one as last season. Luton is a strange one. They did far better than I expected but they lack quality. They might make the playoffs. Sheff U were awful and I don’t see them pulling up any trees. If Leeds or Saints go up the 3 promoted to the PL are stronger. In relation to those coming up from Div 1 Pompey Derby Bolton or Oxford I’d say they’re stronger than those coming down though a lot depends on how big they spend. Brum going down was defo a good thing as they’re a big club. A lot of people saying Pompey are a big club but I’m not that convinced. Don’t see them doing an Ipswich. Likewise Derby though not sure how wealthy their current owners are. As it stands next season I’d go 1st Burnley 2nd Leeds or Saints 22nd Blackburn 23rd Bolton or Oxford 24th Plymouth I think we’ll do better next season and see us 10th-12th which will be a big step forwards Don’t know about the ones coming down to be honest but you’re probably right. However, I think you’re wrong about the teams coming up. I’ve watched Derby several times and know loads of ST holders and they are gash. There two best players are Cashin and Bird. Bird will be at Brizzle and Cashin likely to be sold. They’ve got two strikers over 35 and no real money to replace them Clowes is a rich man but not a fool and he won’t splash the cash like Mel Morris did. Portsmouth might just stay up but I’ve only seen them the once where they got trounced by the aforementioned gash Derby. Bolton and Oxford are miles off. Brum and Huddersfield would dick all three of them. Cheers for that. I guess I was basing my opinion more on past achievements certainly in the case of Derby and Pompey. They certainly strolled the league. It does seem like there’s as big a gap between the champ/div1 as there is PL/Champ. I do think we could have a good run at things next season if we get a good start but unless we buy well and not safe we won’t quite make the playoffs. We really need 2/3 more Manhouf, Burger, Bae type signings.
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Post by metalhead on May 12, 2024 7:59:19 GMT
I thought luton were a good story. Some horrible refereeing decisions that haven't helped them this season that'll end up being a forgotten.
Sad really.
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Post by baconburger on May 12, 2024 8:02:36 GMT
I think Luton might surprise a few. They’ve hit 50 premier league goals, something we failed to achieve in any of our 10 seasons. That suggests to me they’re a far more free scoring team than their promotion team the previous season. Much will depend on what players they retain and bring in. If any of those 3 teams do well there is good resilience and mental strength there. Between the 3 of them there are less than 15 wins between them in a season. Shows the gulf that teams that have almost forgotten how to win usually reverse their fortunes virtually from the off.
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Post by professorplump on May 12, 2024 8:07:14 GMT
I think Luton will be a force next season. I really rate Rob Edwards as a manager. What's the betting Jacob Brown scores against us!
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Post by fullmetaljacket on May 12, 2024 8:08:53 GMT
Can't see sheff utd doing well with Wilder there but the big outlier would be there strike force of Brewster (maybe) but Archer who scored goals for fun when he was at Boro.
Should be a much more competitive league though you'd think.
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Post by baconburger on May 12, 2024 8:10:50 GMT
I think Luton will be a force next season. I really rate Rob Edwards as a manager. What's the betting Jacob Brown scores against us! If he’s a regular starter for them they won’t be pulling up any trees.
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Post by lordb on May 12, 2024 8:37:43 GMT
Can't see sheff utd doing well with Wilder there but the big outlier would be there strike force of Brewster (maybe) but Archer who scored goals for fun when he was at Boro. Should be a much more competitive league though you'd think. Think Archer is going back to Villa?
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Post by march4 on May 12, 2024 8:42:28 GMT
FFP will ensure at least one of them will be promoted. These are yo-yo teams artificially helped by the ridiculous rules which stops the Championship clubs with enough financial clout to survive in the Prem spending their money while giving clubs that stand little chance of surviving loads of money to continually go up and down.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 12, 2024 8:48:59 GMT
Don’t know about the ones coming down to be honest but you’re probably right. However, I think you’re wrong about the teams coming up. I’ve watched Derby several times and know loads of ST holders and they are gash. There two best players are Cashin and Bird. Bird will be at Brizzle and Cashin likely to be sold. They’ve got two strikers over 35 and no real money to replace them Clowes is a rich man but not a fool and he won’t splash the cash like Mel Morris did. Portsmouth might just stay up but I’ve only seen them the once where they got trounced by the aforementioned gash Derby. Bolton and Oxford are miles off. Brum and Huddersfield would dick all three of them. Cheers for that. I guess I was basing my opinion more on past achievements certainly in the case of Derby and Pompey. They certainly strolled the league. It does seem like there’s as big a gap between the champ/div1 as there is PL/Champ. I do think we could have a good run at things next season if we get a good start but unless we buy well and not safe we won’t quite make the playoffs. We really need 2/3 more Manhouf, Burger, Bae type signings. I agree mate we can't afford to tread water or we'll get sucked down like Brum and Huddersfield did. I could be wrong about the teams coming up mind as I never thought Ipswich would do what they did. That said none of the 3 teams coming up are in the same class as Ipswich were.
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Post by fullmetaljacket on May 12, 2024 10:03:33 GMT
Can't see sheff utd doing well with Wilder there but the big outlier would be there strike force of Brewster (maybe) but Archer who scored goals for fun when he was at Boro. Should be a much more competitive league though you'd think. Think Archer is going back to Villa? I thought they bought him? Although thought they did have a buy back clause? Even better if he is going Villa.
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Post by lordb on May 12, 2024 10:09:33 GMT
Think Archer is going back to Villa? I thought they bought him? Although thought they did have a buy back clause? Even better if he is going Villa. I think there is automatic buy back clause triggered by Blades relegation Very odd
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Post by datguy on May 12, 2024 10:13:54 GMT
Some far too complimentary of Luton.
Played good football but ultimately - like the other two - were utter crap.
Never looked as if they’d have enough to stay up, and that includes the Prem throwing multiple point deductions at Everton and Notts Forest.
Don’t think any will dominate. Rob Edwards will get Luton at the right side of the table. Not convinced by Sheff Utd or Burnley really - neither were any good in the promotion seasons either.
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Post by thornestein on May 12, 2024 10:15:34 GMT
Some far too complimentary of Luton. Played good football but ultimately - like the other two - were utter crap. Never looked as if they’d have enough to stay up, and that includes the Prem throwing multiple point deductions at Everton and Notts Forest. Don’t think any will dominate. Rob Edwards will get Luton at the right side of the table. Not convinced by Sheff Utd or Burnley really - neither were any good in the promotion seasons either. agree , whenever i’ve seen i think they’ve been poor
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Post by mickstupp on May 12, 2024 10:20:50 GMT
I can’t remember three worse teams ever getting promoted from the championship. All three were nailed on to get relegated right from the start. Worth remembering though that the previous season, all three promoted sides stayed up comfortably, so it’s not the time to start raising concerns about the gap in playing standards between the two divisions just yet.
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Post by theonlooker on May 12, 2024 10:34:44 GMT
Some far too complimentary of Luton. Played good football but ultimately - like the other two - were utter crap. Never looked as if they’d have enough to stay up, and that includes the Prem throwing multiple point deductions at Everton and Notts Forest. Don’t think any will dominate. Rob Edwards will get Luton at the right side of the table. Not convinced by Sheff Utd or Burnley really - neither were any good in the promotion seasons either. People are missing the point with Luton. Last time round they were the underdogs. This time round with money there is expectation. A whole different ball game as we found out.
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Post by bolders on May 12, 2024 10:38:35 GMT
Some far too complimentary of Luton. Played good football but ultimately - like the other two - were utter crap. Never looked as if they’d have enough to stay up, and that includes the Prem throwing multiple point deductions at Everton and Notts Forest. Don’t think any will dominate. Rob Edwards will get Luton at the right side of the table. Not convinced by Sheff Utd or Burnley really - neither were any good in the promotion seasons either. People are missing the point with Luton. Last time round they were the underdogs. This time round with money there is expectation. A whole different ball game as we found out. Most of their team is full of good Championship standard players
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Post by wrighter on May 12, 2024 10:50:55 GMT
Pompey & Derby will do well Hope Southampton stay in the Championship
Love the battles living down here v Pompey PUP
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Post by wuzza on May 12, 2024 10:58:15 GMT
Relegation should cause minimum disruption to all three clubs - they have planned and budgeted for it. I think it’s going to be yet another incredibly tough season - we are going to have to progress enormously just to finish in the top 10.
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Post by starkiller on May 12, 2024 11:08:20 GMT
FFP will ensure at least one of them will be promoted. These are yo-yo teams artificially helped by the ridiculous rules which stops the Championship clubs with enough financial clout to survive in the Prem spending their money while giving clubs that stand little chance of surviving loads of money to continually go up and down. It would have been nice to be a yo-yo club. Always plenty of drama. But we blew it.
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Post by callas12 on May 12, 2024 11:17:04 GMT
I'm not convinced with Lutons chances next season. Getting promotion for them was a monumental moment and whereas most clubs get promotion and are all but Premier League ready, Luton had to literally rebuild from the ground upwards, & due to winning promotion via the play offs, time was sure against them regarding stadium improvements & squad building.
Players like Barkley, Morris, Chong, Townsend will be gone. Alfie Doughty will have gained his admirers aswell for sure and will most likely get picked off by a lower league Premier club. Even losing inspirational captain Tom Lockyer will have had an impact on how their season panned out, as it will going forwards I'm sure.
Everyone praised plucky Blackpool after they managed the unexpected and hauled themselves into the Prem (also like Blackpool via the play offs) for one season.
They, as all got relegated with the infamous parachute payments but look how their trajectory went after their guest appearance at the top flight. They're better players got picked off and that was that, most people especially younger fans forget they were even in the Prem for one season.
Be interesting to see but I can see Burnley & Sheffield United coping amd dealing with relegation much better than Luton will.
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Post by Squeekster on May 12, 2024 12:10:19 GMT
I can’t remember three worse teams ever getting promoted from the championship. All three were nailed on to get relegated right from the start. Worth remembering though that the previous season, all three promoted sides stayed up comfortably, so it’s not the time to start raising concerns about the gap in playing standards between the two divisions just yet. We are getting closer and closer to a scenario when the the 3 teams going up will be the 3 coming down in my opinion and I believe that's what the premier league want, this super league would of been better in the long run for fair competition in my opinion.
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Post by mickstupp on May 12, 2024 12:26:41 GMT
I can’t remember three worse teams ever getting promoted from the championship. All three were nailed on to get relegated right from the start. Worth remembering though that the previous season, all three promoted sides stayed up comfortably, so it’s not the time to start raising concerns about the gap in playing standards between the two divisions just yet. We are getting closer and closer to a scenario when the the 3 teams going up will be the 3 coming down in my opinion and I believe that's what the premier league want, this super league would of been better in the long run for fair competition in my opinion. There’s no pattern yet to support that view. This is only the second time in the history of the Premier League that all three promoted sides have come straight back down (the other time was way back in 1998). I also think Leicester and Ipswich will give good accounts of themselves next season. Over time though, I agree that the FFP clampdown might have a negative effect and increase the gap
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Post by spiderpuss on May 13, 2024 18:22:06 GMT
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