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Post by george2again on Apr 21, 2024 8:37:39 GMT
Should cause some debate and conjecture.
I’ll go with Burger, Mae and Junior. Maybe Wilmot.
The rest under contract are squad players. Not good enough. We need to be creative and get many out of the door.
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Post by lordb on Apr 21, 2024 8:41:54 GMT
Manhoef
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 21, 2024 8:44:03 GMT
Should cause some debate and conjecture. I’ll go with Burger, Mae and Junior. Maybe Wilmot. The rest under contract are squad players. Not good enough. We need to be creative and get many out of the door. Not good enough for what though? Are we talking not good enough to mount a serious promotion push, or not good enough to improve and maybe look to get into the top half? |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 21, 2024 12:00:01 GMT
Should cause some debate and conjecture. I’ll go with Burger, Mae and Junior. Maybe Wilmot. The rest under contract are squad players. Not good enough. We need to be creative and get many out of the door. Not good enough for what though? Are we talking not good enough to mount a serious promotion push, or not good enough to improve and maybe look to get into the top half? Like Everyone else we will start August aiming at the top 6 the difference this time is we will be far better equipped to go for it , because the people pulling th strings know what’s required , and have common sense and football insight as opposed to swallowing a managment speak book , and to be far we have a coach who will always try to be on the front foot with the tools at his disposal , may well take longer but that will be the aim and the mix of contract and loan will be determined by whose available its just the way it is . |
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Post by lordb on Apr 21, 2024 12:12:28 GMT
Not good enough for what though? Are we talking not good enough to mount a serious promotion push, or not good enough to improve and maybe look to get into the top half? Like Everyone else we will start August aiming at the top 6 the difference this time is we will be far better equipped to go for it , because the people pulling th strings know what’s required , and have common sense and football insight as opposed to swallowing a managment speak book , and to be far we have a coach who will always try to be on the front foot with the tools at his disposal , may well take longer but that will be the aim and the mix of contract and loan will be determined by whose available its just the way it is . Just want something that most of us would agree is a good season |
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Post by GrahamHyde on Apr 21, 2024 12:16:27 GMT
I'd honestly be happy with lower top half next season, we're miles away from promotion at present.
Roughly where Preston, Cardiff and Bristol City are now. We should look to be adding at least 10 points to our current and recent tallies (low 60s).
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Post by MilanStokie on Apr 21, 2024 12:18:39 GMT
Should cause some debate and conjecture. I’ll go with Burger, Mae and Junior. Maybe Wilmot. The rest under contract are squad players. Not good enough. We need to be creative and get many out of the door. GK. NEW RB. Junior CB. NEW CB. Wilmot/Rose LB. NEW CM. Burger CM. Baker/Laurent/Pearson CM. Jun-Ho LW. NEW ST. NEW RW. Manhoef I am fine if Wilmot partners a commanding CB Mmaee would be a rotated option but I would want a new starting striker The 3 central midfield options wouldn't be choice but will likely be what the manager will go with anyway LB, CB and Striker + a permanent keeper are absolute priority. |
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Post by lordb on Apr 21, 2024 12:19:27 GMT
I'd honestly be happy with lower top half next season, we're miles away from promotion at present. Roughly where Preston, Cardiff and Bristol City are now. We should look to be adding at least 10 points to our current and recent tallies (low 60s). Play offs is normally just over 70 points |
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 21, 2024 12:24:18 GMT
GK
Junior Rose/Wilmot CD LB
Thompson/Pearson
Burger Baker (as it stands)/probably Laurent
Million Bae
ST
All of those listed would be fine starters for the league if the other players brought in were of better quality and COMPLIMENTARY to what we have already.
Oh, MilanStokie basically beat me to it.
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Post by shrewspotter on Apr 21, 2024 12:36:41 GMT
I think if we could get Hoever, Cundle and Iversen back we would
It would then be
Iversen, Bonham, Morris
Rb-Hoever, Tchamadeu
CH- 2 x CH, Cresswell, Souttar plus Rose, Wilmott
Lb Burrows plus Stevens
Midfielders,- new am such as O'Hare plus Cundle, Thompson, Laurent, Burger, Pearson.
Attackers, new CF somone like Stansfield? Plus Leris, Junho, Manhoef, Mmaee
To answer the question it probably takes a squad of around 22 players, some of this seasons squad may need moving on but most would be OK for next season I think
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Post by george2again on Apr 21, 2024 12:59:53 GMT
Think we have to remember that those in contract will stay if on good money so rules out a few. I don’t see point of Hoever if we have junior and Leris who can play right back under contract. Leris not good enough up top. Thought Baker was out of contract. Effectively we’re looking for two centre backs( possibly 3 , one who can play left back) and left back. Gooch covers as he has a year left.
Burger only midfielder to start. Thompson great yesterday but needs to be moved on and Lauren needs stripping of captaincy immediately with a vocal leader installed. Hopefully that obscure come in for him again. Does no job well for me.
Up top we are the worst in the league. Need bare minimum two strikers pace and power needs to be added. Mmaee is a tortoise with attitude and Ennis, well job done move on , truly awful.
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Post by george2again on Apr 21, 2024 13:01:12 GMT
Think we have to remember that those in contract will stay if on good money so rules out a few. I don’t see point of Hoever if we have junior and Leris who can play right back under contract. Leris not good enough up top. Thought Baker was out of contract. Effectively we’re looking for two centre backs( possibly 3 , one who can play left back) and left back. Gooch covers as he has a year left. Burger only midfielder to start. Thompson great yesterday but needs to be moved on and Lauren needs stripping of captaincy immediately with a vocal leader installed. Hopefully that obscure club come in for him again. Does no job well for me. Up top we are the worst in the league. Need bare minimum two strikers pace and power needs to be added. Mmaee is a tortoise with attitude and Ennis, well job done move on , truly awful. |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Apr 21, 2024 13:30:08 GMT
We have the basis of a good team.
It's a big if but in terms of regular starters all we really need is a GK, CB, LB, and CF.
Then we should be looking at comfortable midtable, and from there and a good run of form and luck then anything is possible.
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Post by RonnieStokie on Apr 21, 2024 13:46:37 GMT
We have the basis of a good team. It's a big if but in terms of regular starters all we really need is a GK, CB, LB, and CF. Then we should be looking at comfortable midtable, and from there and a good run of form and luck then anything is possible. One thing I've learnt over the past 7 years is that we absolutely do not have the basis of a good team. |
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Post by apb1 on Apr 21, 2024 13:47:58 GMT
Tried to make a team of under contract players for our first match:
Bonham
Junior
Rose
Wilmot
?? McCarron ?? Gooch or Tommo better I guess
Laurent/Thompson
Baker/Pearson
Burger
Million
Mmaee
Bae
Bench from: Simkin, Sidibe, Johnson, Vidigal, Ennis, Leris, Lowe, Tezgel, Jojic?
As always, GK, LB, CB (preferably a left footed one) and Main Striker (who scores) would seem the urgent priorities. You can see Johnson and maybe Pearson moving. Doubtless there will be more outgoings too.
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Post by Gob Bluth on Apr 21, 2024 15:29:41 GMT
I think if we could get Hoever, Cundle and Iversen back we would It would then be Iversen, Bonham, Morris Rb-Hoever, Tchamadeu CH- 2 x CH, Cresswell, Souttar plus Rose, Wilmott Lb Burrows plus Stevens Midfielders,- new am such as O'Hare plus Cundle, Thompson, Laurent, Burger, Pearson. Attackers, new CF somone like Stansfield? Plus Leris, Junho, Manhoef, Mmaee To answer the question it probably takes a squad of around 22 players, some of this seasons squad may need moving on but most would be OK for next season I think Another +1 for Hoever. I know he’s been patchy but he can win a game from right back. Surely the perfect match up with Junior. We want Junior to start but can’t expect consistency so Hoever would be a great partner. |
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Post by jokker on Apr 21, 2024 15:31:31 GMT
Should cause some debate and conjecture. I’ll go with Burger, Mae and Junior. Maybe Wilmot. The rest under contract are squad players. Not good enough. We need to be creative and get many out of the door. We are beggars not choosers. We have to rely on the players that are already known to the manager and trusted by him, and they him. Letting 20 players leave and 20 new ones coming in will only take us right back to where we were at the start of and through much of this season. It's a great calamity that it's taken the current squad so much time to actually "gel", but that's what's happened. Doing a second virtual complete reset can only bring us trouble. Being the almighty Potters some might believe we can just go out and pick the best creative players on the market, but if the last few years have taught us anything it is that nothing of that sort will happen. The best we can do is further develop the vast majority of what we already have, and a couple of youngsters, and simply let those who have not featured at all, or virtually not at all, under Schuhmacher, go (Johnson, Findlay, who else). |
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Post by george2again on Apr 21, 2024 16:13:53 GMT
Should cause some debate and conjecture. I’ll go with Burger, Mae and Junior. Maybe Wilmot. The rest under contract are squad players. Not good enough. We need to be creative and get many out of the door. We are beggars not choosers. We have to rely on the players that are already known to the manager and trusted by him, and they him. Letting 20 players leave and 20 new ones coming in will only take us right back to where we were at the start of and through much of this season. It's a great calamity that it's taken the current squad so much time to actually "gel", but that's what's happened. Doing a second virtual complete reset can only bring us trouble. Being the almighty Potters some might believe we can just go out and pick the best creative players on the market, but if the last few years have taught us anything it is that nothing of that sort will happen. The best we can do is further develop the vast majority of what we already have, and a couple of youngsters, and simply let those who have not featured at all, or virtually not at all, under Schuhmacher, go (Johnson, Findlay, who else). The theory is great but the reality completely different. These lot have not gelled after 1 decent performance, consideration given that Plymouth were bloody awful. I’ll say one word, Swansea. The worst performance I’ve seen since relegation and that less than 2 weeks ago. This team and its mentality is capable of horrific performances has no leaders and no voices. Keep squad to gather and we’re is same place next season. |
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Post by jokker on Apr 21, 2024 16:31:50 GMT
We are beggars not choosers. We have to rely on the players that are already known to the manager and trusted by him, and they him. Letting 20 players leave and 20 new ones coming in will only take us right back to where we were at the start of and through much of this season. It's a great calamity that it's taken the current squad so much time to actually "gel", but that's what's happened. Doing a second virtual complete reset can only bring us trouble. Being the almighty Potters some might believe we can just go out and pick the best creative players on the market, but if the last few years have taught us anything it is that nothing of that sort will happen. The best we can do is further develop the vast majority of what we already have, and a couple of youngsters, and simply let those who have not featured at all, or virtually not at all, under Schuhmacher, go (Johnson, Findlay, who else). The theory is great but the reality completely different. These lot have not gelled after 1 decent performance, consideration given that Plymouth were bloody awful. I’ll say one word, Swansea. The worst performance I’ve seen since relegation and that less than 2 weeks ago. This team and its mentality is capable of horrific performances has no leaders and no voices. Keep squad to gather and we’re is same place next season. Cool. We won't have to worry about relegation next season then... You have to be able to forgive players for having bad days, and Swansea was not the first time that we were atrocious. However there's a bunch of players, more than a team, a decent squad that have come together and lifted the club out of trouble. That's something to build on. Teams that escape relegation sometimes go on to do great things the next season. Just ask Leicester's fans... |
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