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Post by musik on May 7, 2024 5:20:05 GMT
Ryan Shawcross would be an improvement.
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Post by thisisouryear on May 7, 2024 6:03:16 GMT
From Walters comments I'm deducing that one difference this summer, from last summer, is we'll be doing some diligence on the character of the players we sign. It doesn't appear we did that last summer. I don’t think that’s entirely fair. We made two of the better transfers we’ve made since Arnie? In terms of potential profit anyway. There’s no real bad eggs? Mmaee just needs managing properly. He needs managing. Something some football managers forget. Look at Ten Haag with Sancho. Lazy shite management and he’s showing what he’s all about at Dortmund. No one else seems particularly a bad egg or to have a bad attitude. Vidigal has been out the side for 3/4 months and we’ve not heard or seen a bad word from him. We just need more better players. Like everyone else. Yeah the players are getting a lot of stick for a lack of character but it seems like there has been a lack of character at the club in general. Hopefully that seems to be almost sorted now with Walters coming in and Schumacher seems of a similar mould so hopefully we are on the up now at last.
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Post by baconburger on May 7, 2024 6:51:13 GMT
I’d put Junior in the Dublin pile. I've heard convincing arguments for either pile. My initial thought is that last year's strategy was to let Jared and the scouts identify players with resale value to invest serious money in and to then let the manager use his contact book to plug the boring gaps with boring players. However, who knows how it shakes out once you put in signing on fees and wages. How would the Johnson deal compare to, say, Vidigal? There’s two different list because there are two different businesses. There’s squad building for a successful team, we’ve not done well at that and then there is the business of player trading that’s almost completely unrelated. We’ve been doing pretty well at that for a few years from MON onwards. We’d have been so in the shit if it wasn’t for that.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 7, 2024 7:53:14 GMT
I've heard convincing arguments for either pile. My initial thought is that last year's strategy was to let Jared and the scouts identify players with resale value to invest serious money in and to then let the manager use his contact book to plug the boring gaps with boring players. However, who knows how it shakes out once you put in signing on fees and wages. How would the Johnson deal compare to, say, Vidigal? There’s two different list because there are two different businesses. There’s squad building for a successful team, we’ve not done well at that and then there is the business of player trading that’s almost completely unrelated. We’ve been doing pretty well at that for a few years from MON onwards. We’d have been so in the shit if it wasn’t for that. Have we? The two biggest saleable assets were bought in the Premier League. Brown is about the only one since we’ve been down we’ve made a good profit on that we’ve bought whilst in the Championship?
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Post by LGH87 on May 7, 2024 8:30:39 GMT
how much is in the kitty then!?
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Post by davejohnno1 on May 7, 2024 8:35:50 GMT
Percy linking us to Jake Clarke-Salter this morning.
QPR defender at a price of around £5m
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Post by theonlooker on May 7, 2024 8:38:02 GMT
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Post by J-Roar on May 7, 2024 9:27:22 GMT
From Walters comments I'm deducing that one difference this summer, from last summer, is we'll be doing some diligence on the character of the players we sign. It doesn't appear we did that last summer. I don’t think that’s entirely fair. We made two of the better transfers we’ve made since Arnie? In terms of potential profit anyway. There’s no real bad eggs? Mmaee just needs managing properly. He needs managing. Something some football managers forget. Look at Ten Haag with Sancho. Lazy shite management and he’s showing what he’s all about at Dortmund. No one else seems particularly a bad egg or to have a bad attitude. Vidigal has been out the side for 3/4 months and we’ve not heard or seen a bad word from him. We just need more better players. Like everyone else. Mmaee seems like a bad egg. He contributed to the slump and distracted the manager when he'd barely got his feet under the table. For that reason he should be jettisoned.
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Post by J-Roar on May 7, 2024 9:28:50 GMT
His form tailed off in the 2nd half of the season I doubt anyone is offering that sort of money now. Roger Whittaker looked more likely to score at our place Whistle
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 7, 2024 9:38:28 GMT
We shouldn’t be spending that on one player.
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Post by fullmetaljacket on May 7, 2024 9:48:12 GMT
He won't be 5 million.
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Post by a on May 7, 2024 11:03:33 GMT
We shouldn’t be spending that on one player. I tend to agree. It depends on the player though to some extent, but I think it also depends on how much we have to spend.
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Post by a on May 7, 2024 11:05:27 GMT
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Post by scfcadams on May 7, 2024 11:13:35 GMT
As far from reliable as you can get
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Post by yellowsnowman on May 7, 2024 11:28:11 GMT
As far from reliable as you can get This would be good news.
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on May 7, 2024 11:34:29 GMT
I think they pretend to be ITK but know as much as the rest of us.
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Post by march4 on May 7, 2024 11:50:09 GMT
I don’t think that’s entirely fair. We made two of the better transfers we’ve made since Arnie? In terms of potential profit anyway. There’s no real bad eggs? Mmaee just needs managing properly. He needs managing. Something some football managers forget. Look at Ten Haag with Sancho. Lazy shite management and he’s showing what he’s all about at Dortmund. No one else seems particularly a bad egg or to have a bad attitude. Vidigal has been out the side for 3/4 months and we’ve not heard or seen a bad word from him. We just need more better players. Like everyone else. Mmaee seems like a bad egg. He contributed to the slump and distracted the manager when he'd barely got his feet under the table. For that reason he should be jettisoned. Surely he will be gone this summer.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on May 7, 2024 12:03:47 GMT
Can't see how we'd be at the forefront but Hoops will definitely sell if they got him on a free!
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 7, 2024 14:10:03 GMT
If we paid that for Salter,which left us having to spend less on a striker,I'd go for spending more on a striker & look elsewhere for Salters position,unless of course we have a decent budget & can afford Salter & still spend big on a striker.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on May 7, 2024 14:34:29 GMT
Bit early for the dong shot
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Post by baconburger on May 7, 2024 14:35:17 GMT
We shouldn’t be spending that on one player. We spent a little less than that on Burger. Sound acquisition, plus we’ll need to spend more than that on a striker if we want anything more than a punt. Christ knows where you’re getting your values from, last Summer proved the Covid slump in prices is well and truly over.
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Post by stokesaint1 on May 7, 2024 15:13:46 GMT
Before all this talk of new players and loan players coming back for all sorts of positions, we need a first choice, fully fit, quality left back, which we haven't had for bloody years now. Biggest hole in the squad for at least 6 years now, probably even longer.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on May 7, 2024 15:17:35 GMT
Before all this talk of new players and loan players coming back for all sorts of positions, we need a first choice, fully fit, quality left back, which we haven't had for bloody years now. Biggest hole in the squad for at least 6 years now, probably even longer. It doesn’t quite work that way. We know what we want but not everything falls neatly into place in order of priorities.
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Post by baconburger on May 7, 2024 15:19:05 GMT
Before all this talk of new players and loan players coming back for all sorts of positions, we need a first choice, fully fit, quality left back, which we haven't had for bloody years now. Biggest hole in the squad for at least 6 years now, probably even longer. Having seen our goal tally for the season I don’t think a LB is going to put much of a dent in that. A LB would be good but top priority I hope not.
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Post by lordb on May 7, 2024 16:08:22 GMT
Before all this talk of new players and loan players coming back for all sorts of positions, we need a first choice, fully fit, quality left back, which we haven't had for bloody years now. Biggest hole in the squad for at least 6 years now, probably even longer. Having seen our goal tally for the season I don’t think a LB is going to put much of a dent in that. A LB would be good but top priority I hope not. striker! but good players are always worth signing
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Post by baconburger on May 7, 2024 16:11:43 GMT
I don’t think that’s entirely fair. We made two of the better transfers we’ve made since Arnie? In terms of potential profit anyway. There’s no real bad eggs? Mmaee just needs managing properly. He needs managing. Something some football managers forget. Look at Ten Haag with Sancho. Lazy shite management and he’s showing what he’s all about at Dortmund. No one else seems particularly a bad egg or to have a bad attitude. Vidigal has been out the side for 3/4 months and we’ve not heard or seen a bad word from him. We just need more better players. Like everyone else. Mmaee seems like a bad egg. He contributed to the slump and distracted the manager when he'd barely got his feet under the table. For that reason he should be jettisoned. Naah he should be jettisoned because he’s wank. Got no fight, no aggression and no energy. If he was a beast he’d be worth every bit of bother and more.
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Post by Miles Offside on May 7, 2024 16:11:47 GMT
It all depends on the Steve's preferred formation. We need to drop the idea of a lone striker. It rarely works.
I doubt Bae's got the goals in him to play in a front 3, so I'd have him on the left of a midfield 3 with Million and {hopefully} Brereton-Diaz and a left-sided striker up top.
Plus minimum of a keeper, CB, LB and DM and right midfield.
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Post by baconburger on May 7, 2024 16:13:36 GMT
Having seen our goal tally for the season I don’t think a LB is going to put much of a dent in that. A LB would be good but top priority I hope not. striker! but good players are always worth signing Hey you’ll get no argument from me I’m one of the few who realises player trading is a very important side of the business. Most teams are ultimately unsuccessful most seasons.
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Post by baconburger on May 7, 2024 16:15:12 GMT
It all depends on the Steve's preferred formation. We need to drop the idea of a lone striker. It rarely works. I doubt Bae's got the goals in him to play in a front 3, so I'd have him on the left of a midfield 3 with Million and {hopefully} Brereton-Diaz and a left-sided striker up top. Plus minimum of a keeper, CB, LB and DM and right midfield. Most teams play with a lone forward how do you work out it rarely works?
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Post by scfcadams on May 7, 2024 16:23:34 GMT
It all depends on the Steve's preferred formation. We need to drop the idea of a lone striker. It rarely works. I doubt Bae's got the goals in him to play in a front 3, so I'd have him on the left of a midfield 3 with Million and {hopefully} Brereton-Diaz and a left-sided striker up top. Plus minimum of a keeper, CB, LB and DM and right midfield. Most teams play with a lone forward how do you work out it rarely works? They watch football on Internet Explorer
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