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Post by ange1 on Apr 20, 2024 6:36:11 GMT
When the podcast was aired last Monday there was not one comment on social media regarding my answer to the question asked. My response was honest and balanced.
For reasons unknown to me, the comments that I made were clipped and edited by BBC Radio Stoke and placed online minus any context and without my knowledge.
The timing of this action was without doubt "questionable" and has caused much unhappiness amongst fans, myself included. I have been a Stoke City supporter for many years and would never knowingly do anything to cause damage to the club, the players or the fans.
I hope that Josh Laurent has the game of his life v Plymouth. Nothing will give me greater pleasure than that.
I have contacted Radio Stoke and expressed my displeasure as to why such action was taken and indeed the very poor timing of it. As yet, I have not received any answer to that question.
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Post by greenhoff on Apr 20, 2024 6:45:56 GMT
When the podcast was aired last Monday there was not one comment on social media regarding my answer to the question asked. My response was honest and balanced. For reasons unknown to me, the comments that I made were clipped and edited by BBC Radio Stoke and placed online minus any context and without my knowledge. The timing of this action was without doubt "questionable" and has caused much unhappiness amongst fans, myself included. I have been a Stoke City supporter for many years and would never knowingly do anything to cause damage to the club, the players or the fans. I hope that Josh Laurent has the game of his life v Plymouth. Nothing will give me greater pleasure than that. I have contacted Radio Stoke and expressed my displeasure as to why such action was taken and indeed the very poor timing of it. As yet, I have not received any answer to that question. The blame lies with Radio Stoke Angela. You have been royally hung out to dry. I can completely understand your anger. Have a great day and hopefully it will get much better at 4.45 pm.
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Post by thornestein on Apr 20, 2024 6:48:11 GMT
When the podcast was aired last Monday there was not one comment on social media regarding my answer to the question asked. My response was honest and balanced. For reasons unknown to me, the comments that I made were clipped and edited by BBC Radio Stoke and placed online minus any context and without my knowledge. The timing of this action was without doubt "questionable" and has caused much unhappiness amongst fans, myself included. I have been a Stoke City supporter for many years and would never knowingly do anything to cause damage to the club, the players or the fans. I hope that Josh Laurent has the game of his life v Plymouth. Nothing will give me greater pleasure than that. I have contacted Radio Stoke and expressed my displeasure as to why such action was taken and indeed the very poor timing of it. As yet, I have not received any answer to that question. they certainly sold you down the river
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Post by frasier37 on Apr 20, 2024 6:54:36 GMT
Don't sweat about it Ange. strange the release of the whole thing was and majority of supporters would have said similar just now. I told you are too negative
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Post by furry on Apr 20, 2024 7:05:48 GMT
You're entitled to an opinion and tbh I have pretty much the same one, as I bet do quite a large percentage of Stokies. The blame lies totally with R Stoke and the poor timing of the edited clip being released. You're quite right to demand an apology but lets be honest all media companies care about is viewing/reading figures and fck anyone who gets hurt by it. Shamefull bunch of bar stewards.
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Post by Gods on Apr 20, 2024 7:17:15 GMT
I listened to the entirety of that Podcast and found it a thoroughly enjoyable listen, indeed I said so on this very message board.
All the contributors struck me as informed, relaxed and had the club in their hearts.
Nothing said struck me at the time as even remotely controversial.
If you like controversial views you were in the wrong place with that Podcast. Try Praise and Grumble or this message board instead!
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Apr 20, 2024 7:47:32 GMT
Your opinion on Josh Laurent was what most Stoke fans and certainly myself feel. My only concern was the timing as I stated on the other thread but that clearly lies with Radio Stoke and not yourself. If we all had to apologise for our views then this wouldn't be much of a forum would it.
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Post by BristolMick on Apr 20, 2024 7:54:59 GMT
This is all a bit cryptic. So as we can all understand what has happened what did Radio Stoke do exactly?
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Post by Scouse on Apr 20, 2024 8:00:06 GMT
Ange
You’ve been stitched up .. by people you know & perhaps previously respected probably makes it feel all the worse .. they’ve let you down badly
your views in the full podcast where from you as an individual fan , something R/S acknowledged in the banner on the clip , not as a co commentator former club employee etc .. IMHO that should mean R/S have a greater duty of care .. it appears not .. they have previous for this in that they clip pieces from praise and grumble too
Football is an emotive sport , not least for fans .. it’s one of the reasons I seldom engage with the press / media .. that and having a face for radio & a voice for silent films
Whether it was just insensitive click bait or designed to embarrass you or the club / player is for R/S to explain .
Personally if it was me I’d be genuinely gutted ( I hope & trust you’re made of stronger stuff )
I’d certainly be considering a complaint to OFCOM
Finally to clarify the reference to Valed threat by the club to have the clip removed , wasn’t a dig at you ..but to the suggestion that Vale fans populate R/S so the timing may have been not just for click bait but for point scoring locally
Best wishes and fingers crossed 3 points today for all of us
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Post by theonlooker on Apr 20, 2024 8:00:35 GMT
Disgraceful from all concerned, including the cretins on here that can't wait to wade in on you time and again, Ange.
Your opinions are as valid as the next person, so keep doing what you are doing.
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Post by figo85 on Apr 20, 2024 8:16:10 GMT
Quite frankly, looking at where our great club is at the moment, a fair amount of criticism is rightly thrown at the players, especially the captain. If he would like or the positives that comes with being a captain, then he should expect a fair amount of the stick that’s fired their way. That’s his role.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Apr 20, 2024 8:32:01 GMT
There's been a total overreaction to it from people on here and the club releasing that stupid video. He's had a shocker this season, he's had no influence on games, he's not been good enough.
Glenn Whelan in commentary last week was reasoned and couldn't hide his contempt for the performance, the lack of concentration and composure on the ball.
The comments made in the podcast were reasonable, it's a total non issue
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Apr 20, 2024 8:34:11 GMT
Disgraceful from all concerned, including the cretins on here that can't wait to wade in on you time and again, Ange. Your opinions are as valid as the next person, so keep doing what you are doing. đź‘Ť It comes from a sinister place doesn't it? Those people jumping all over it on that other thread know what they are.
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Post by theonlooker on Apr 20, 2024 9:09:15 GMT
Disgraceful from all concerned, including the cretins on here that can't wait to wade in on you time and again, Ange. Your opinions are as valid as the next person, so keep doing what you are doing. đź‘Ť It comes from a sinister place doesn't it? Those people jumping all over it on that other thread know what they are. Like you say, Glenn Whelan is fair game to call him out live on radio out but Angela isn't? That's about right.
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 20, 2024 9:19:21 GMT
I don’t think you’ve caused any damage to the players, Angela. If Josh Laurent is so thin-skinned that he can’t take mild criticism from a lifelong fan ahead of the final games of one of the most boring seasons of my Stoke supporting years, then he shouldn’t be captain.
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 20, 2024 9:20:50 GMT
There's been a total overreaction to it from people on here and the club releasing that stupid video. He's had a shocker this season, he's had no influence on games, he's not been good enough. Glenn Whelan in commentary last week was reasoned and couldn't hide his contempt for the performance, the lack of concentration and composure on the ball. The comments made in the podcast were reasonable, it's a total non issue Exactly. Laurent did well winning that last second header. It’s a shame he was shite for the 90 mins leading up to it - we could have used some midfield presence in a game where 4000 travelled away.
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Post by nottsover60 on Apr 20, 2024 10:01:57 GMT
I don’t think you’ve caused any damage to the players, Angela. If Josh Laurent is so thin-skinned that he can’t take mild criticism from a lifelong fan ahead of the final games of one of the most boring seasons of my Stoke supporting years, then he shouldn’t be captain. Exactly this, he probably knows in his heart even if he won't admit it that there is truth in what was said. Yesterday I was imagining how Pulis would handle this and I could see Laurent turning up today to find the article taped to his locker door and Pulis behind his shoulder saying "Go and prove them wrong Josh! How dare they say that?"
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Post by foxysgloves on Apr 20, 2024 10:06:31 GMT
When the podcast was aired last Monday there was not one comment on social media regarding my answer to the question asked. My response was honest and balanced. For reasons unknown to me, the comments that I made were clipped and edited by BBC Radio Stoke and placed online minus any context and without my knowledge. The timing of this action was without doubt "questionable" and has caused much unhappiness amongst fans, myself included. I have been a Stoke City supporter for many years and would never knowingly do anything to cause damage to the club, the players or the fans. I hope that Josh Laurent has the game of his life v Plymouth. Nothing will give me greater pleasure than that. I have contacted Radio Stoke and expressed my displeasure as to why such action was taken and indeed the very poor timing of it. As yet, I have not received any answer to that question. Storm in a tea cup. Zero blame attached to you for what were very balanced comments reflecting the opinions of many. Hopefully Radio Stoke have learned a lesson!
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Post by pretzel on Apr 20, 2024 10:23:13 GMT
Would be nice if Radio Stoke issued a public apology on Praise and Grumble tonight.
*No breaths held*
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Apr 20, 2024 10:32:48 GMT
Well done Ange,A lot if fans were thinking just what you said about Laurent,he is idle and realy should be strpped of the Captaincy.
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Post by jaybee on Apr 20, 2024 10:50:42 GMT
This is all a bit cryptic. So as we can all understand what has happened what did Radio Stoke do exactly? Just hope my copy/paste will work .... Can anyone explain (please) what everyone is going on about? I started at page 1 but it says "not found" Thanks I think… Angela Smith/Radio Stoke have made a video lasting something like 45mins-1hr and during it Angela has criticised Laurent’s performances this season and his captaincy, this being a very small part of the whole video. Radio Stoke have released another video of just this part to make Angela’s comments stand out. Some have argued this is Radio Stoke trying to cause trouble, some have said it’s just clickbait stuff, and some have criticised Angela for her comments, or at least the timing of them. This has lead to accusations of sexism amongst the Oatcake posters, some will have criticised her because she’s a woman, some won’t have criticisms of her because she’s a woman, some just disagree, some just agree, just another day on the Oatcake.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 20, 2024 10:54:09 GMT
It’s a storm in a teacup over some correct opinions about our shit captain. People need to grow up a bit.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 20, 2024 10:59:04 GMT
Hoping Ange is on commentary today…….
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Post by senojbor on Apr 20, 2024 11:03:11 GMT
Well done Ange,A lot if fans were thinking just what you said about Laurent,he is idle and realy should be strpped of the Captaincy. Saying he is idle and not being great at what he does are two different matters. I'm sure both AN and SS would have picked up on it. If you disagree, then blame the managers who think differently and play him We've got a lot of players for midfield spots, but apart from Pearson not one have any physical presence. Whatever the case it's not helpful to publicly criticise players.
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