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Post by marylandstoke on Apr 18, 2024 18:16:01 GMT
CBS TV coverage over here yesterday…. before the penalty shoot out:
Jamie Carragher on making two of his three career shootout penalties:
“The one I missed was for England, so not as important. I’d rather let my country down than my city down.”
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Post by stokefc on Apr 18, 2024 18:19:39 GMT
Prick
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Post by RF10 on Apr 18, 2024 18:20:58 GMT
I agree with him. It doesn't mean he didn't care about missing for England.
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Post by milton58 on Apr 18, 2024 18:23:34 GMT
I agree with him. It doesn't mean he didn't care about missing for England. he said it wasn't as important...if harry misses one this year and he says that he will get pelters |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 18, 2024 18:24:39 GMT
Gets more unlikeable by the week. This is pretty tame but soon he’ll say something that gets him sacked
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Post by DentySCFC on Apr 18, 2024 18:26:03 GMT
Gets more unlikeable by the week. This is pretty tame but soon he’ll say something that gets him sacked Thinks he’s untouchable after spitting at children and getting away with it. |
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Apr 18, 2024 18:31:11 GMT
I agree with him. It doesn't mean he didn't care about missing for England. he said it wasn't as important...if harry misses one this year and he says that he will get pelters If Harry scores, there's a chance he might get pelters from some... |
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Apr 18, 2024 18:31:41 GMT
Gets more unlikeable by the week. This is pretty tame but soon he’ll say something that gets him sacked Thinks he’s untouchable after spitting at children and getting away with it. How he came back from that I will never know! |
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Post by RF10 on Apr 18, 2024 18:34:15 GMT
I agree with him. It doesn't mean he didn't care about missing for England. he said it wasn't as important...if harry misses one this year and he says that he will get pelters If you put yourself in the position on missing a penalty for Stoke Vs Madrid in Champs League or England in World Cup I'd be more gutted missing for Stoke |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 18, 2024 18:37:47 GMT
he said it wasn't as important...if harry misses one this year and he says that he will get pelters If you put yourself in the position on missing a penalty for Stoke Vs Madrid in Champs League or England in World Cup I'd be more gutted missing for Stoke You’d surely be equally gutted? I think I’d be gutted massively missing any penalty tbh. Shows he had a shit mentality imo. And as much as I don’t like Kane he’d be as gutted missing a penalty in a friendly as he would a massive game. |
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Post by milton58 on Apr 18, 2024 18:38:29 GMT
he said it wasn't as important...if harry misses one this year and he says that he will get pelters If you put yourself in the position on missing a penalty for Stoke Vs Madrid in Champs League or England in World Cup I'd be more gutted missing for Stoke will stoke everything play Madrid in a champions League final though |
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Post by RF10 on Apr 18, 2024 21:04:19 GMT
If you put yourself in the position on missing a penalty for Stoke Vs Madrid in Champs League or England in World Cup I'd be more gutted missing for Stoke You’d surely be equally gutted? I think I’d be gutted massively missing any penalty tbh. Shows he had a shit mentality imo. And as much as I don’t like Kane he’d be as gutted missing a penalty in a friendly as he would a massive game. Possibly would. I think if you had to pick though for me it would be Stoke 90% of the time. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 18, 2024 21:08:19 GMT
You’d surely be equally gutted? I think I’d be gutted massively missing any penalty tbh. Shows he had a shit mentality imo. And as much as I don’t like Kane he’d be as gutted missing a penalty in a friendly as he would a massive game. Possibly would. I think if you had to pick though for me it would be Stoke 90% of the time. I think as a fan I would but as a player the World Cup is still the pinnacle. |
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Apr 18, 2024 22:31:38 GMT
Personally I'm not really bothered about the England team and even less so with the current dullard as manager, I'd choose Stoke every day of every week over England. Give me the choice of Stoke winning anything- league cup FA cup, play-offs, promotion or England winning the Euros or World cup and I would take Stoke every time. So I find it hard not agreeing with Carragher. Doesn't say I agree with everything he says or that I like or care about him or his views. Gouranga.  |
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Post by stoke1989 on Apr 18, 2024 22:34:14 GMT
I can't stand him but I get it, I'd take a Stoke trophy win over England
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 18, 2024 22:45:48 GMT
Some things just don’t need to be said, whether he believes it or not.
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Post by lennythegoose on Apr 19, 2024 7:04:33 GMT
Yep, was there in Gelsinkirchen with no doubt loads of other Stokies. Pitiful penalties from us.
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Post by retrostoke on Apr 19, 2024 7:40:48 GMT
Scouse not English. No surprise is it. Probably boos the national anthem from his Sky commentary chair
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 19, 2024 7:43:05 GMT
They're all the same in Bin Dipper country, they hate England and it's a valid reason why I'd probably never pick a scouser if I was the manager.
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Post by sticky on Apr 19, 2024 7:50:11 GMT
What an odd thing to say, assuming he’s trying to say it in a comical way…But given he’s not particularly liked anyway it’s hardly going to improve things
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Apr 19, 2024 8:14:07 GMT
Anyone that spits at another person loses my respect.
Low life.
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Post by grovepotter on Apr 19, 2024 8:24:41 GMT
It seems the the topic has changed from his England comments to spitting. I do not think anyone will defend his spitting incident but for me, his comments about England are bang on.
Last day of the season Stoke have a penalty to stay in the league in 90+5 mins VS England have a penalty in sudden death to win the euros .... Stoke every single time without a doubt for me.
I'd rather Stoke win the autoglass again than England win the world cup (not that I fancy relegation)
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Post by StokieDJC on Apr 19, 2024 10:20:56 GMT
Gets more unlikeable by the week. This is pretty tame but soon he’ll say something that gets him sacked Thinks he’s untouchable after spitting at children and getting away with it. Shouldn't mock the way he speaks. |
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Post by StokieDJC on Apr 19, 2024 10:22:14 GMT
Not going to lie Stoke Premier League title or England World Cup. I would chose Stoke every time.
I'd probably choose Stoke promotion to Prem over World Cup.
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 19, 2024 14:36:57 GMT
Well, plenty of people on here make the point they aren't arsed about England. Which carries an underlying hint of dick measuring about what fanatical obsessive Stokies they are.
So, what's up really?
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Post by noustie on Apr 19, 2024 14:41:40 GMT
I honestly don't get it - he was an Everton fan apparently anyway for one thing!
If you asked me in a parallel universe if I'd be more gutted missing a peno in a Champions League semi final for Stoke or World Cup semi-final for Scotland then it's Scotland all day!
You can play in the Champions League every year of your career if you're good enough/ that way wired whereas you could be the best player in the world and never play in a world cup.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 19, 2024 14:58:07 GMT
Strange thing to get worked up over
Just his opinion
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Post by marylandstoke on Apr 19, 2024 15:27:56 GMT
Did just want to say.
I posted this because i was so, I’m not really sure how to describe it, somewhere between outraged and disgusted at the time.
Having read some of the views on here I find my attitude softening and, by reason of well placed arguments here, actually seeing their point as equally, if not more, than my original position.
I did just want to add.
I did hear it live, also went back to try to fact check myself.
Points have been made above about tone/comedic content/nuance etc.
In my personal view it was delivered with nothing more than scouse c*ntery as its effect.
Lets hope he’s not involved in any international games in the near future eh?
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Post by onionman on Apr 19, 2024 15:41:05 GMT
I honestly don't get it - he was an Everton fan apparently anyway for one thing! If you asked me in a parallel universe if I'd be more gutted missing a peno in a Champions League semi final for Stoke or World Cup semi-final for Scotland then it's Scotland all day! You can play in the Champions League every year of your career if you're good enough/ that way wired whereas you could be the best player in the world and never play in a world cup. Not sure which of those hypothetical scenarios is more unlikely in your parallel universe. |
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Post by pez75 on Apr 19, 2024 15:58:02 GMT
Never got this partisan approach to Club v Country? They are not rivals and never will be, you can happily support both, neither has to be diluted for the other? The hypothetical question of Stoke or England (or other) preferred champions is literally stupid tbh. I'd love Stoke to win every trophy going and the same goes for England - I don't have to choose.
As for Carragher and England, everyone knows he's sour as fuck about it all cos basically he rarely got picked - who cares what he thinks? Most players see representing your country as the pinnacle of their career, and rightly so.
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