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Post by wakefieldstokie on Apr 15, 2024 11:37:54 GMT
Obviously, Sol is a young lad at 17, but he has played seven games this season for us (3 in the league). It seemed he might feature a bit more, perhaps as a sub. But he hasn't
Is it as simple as he's too inexperienced for a championship relegation battle?
I genuinely think he could have been useful as a substitute in recent matches, but then again, 17 is young.
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Post by stiggerstackle on Apr 15, 2024 11:41:39 GMT
I didn't think he looked out of place during his early season cameo's - will hopefully grow into a regular starter over the next season or 2.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 15, 2024 11:41:59 GMT
Yeah it seems a shame that he was put to the side. I thought he showed more than enough to be used as a regular sub tbh.
You always have the option to take him off the bench if the performances dropped but they never did.
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 15, 2024 12:00:22 GMT
We decided to buy about 70 central midfielders this window. He was never going to get many games. We played him until he signed a new contract, then dumped him.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Apr 15, 2024 12:02:58 GMT
I would have picked him over Laurent all season, easy
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Apr 15, 2024 12:32:59 GMT
No one in their right mind would pick a 17 year old to play
Oh.. Hang on..
Klopp
Ten Hag.
Pep..
But apart from them clueless idiots, who else.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Apr 15, 2024 12:36:28 GMT
No one in their right mind would pick a 17 year old to play Oh.. Hang on.. Klopp Ten Hag. Pep.. But apart from them clueless idiots, who else. I'd tend to agree. If you're good enough you're old enough. That said they can't just be thrown into the deep end and there does have to be some element of breaking them in over a bit of time. Hopefully he'll feature a lot more off the bench next season and will become a real asset to us 🙏
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Post by questionable on Apr 15, 2024 12:53:32 GMT
No one in their right mind would pick a 17 year old to play Oh.. Hang on.. Klopp Ten Hag. Pep.. But apart from them clueless idiots, who else. I'd tend to agree. If you're good enough you're old enough. That said they can't just be thrown into the deep end and there does have to be some element of breaking them in over a bit of time. Hopefully he'll feature a lot more off the bench next season and will become a real asset to us 🙏 In all honesty although Baker was on the pitch I can only recall his name being mentioned once, Laurent’s every time we gave a free kick away ofc. Laughable that JT started at LB and has been head and shoulders our stand out midfielder when playing
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Post by lordb on Apr 15, 2024 13:47:01 GMT
He impresses for the U21's
For me we have too many midfielders on the books and clearly lack in other positions would be promoting and using Sol before we buy any more midfielders
If we can get a quality left winger in that releases Bae to play behind the striker
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Post by jokker on Apr 15, 2024 14:00:38 GMT
I'd tend to agree. If you're good enough you're old enough. That said they can't just be thrown into the deep end and there does have to be some element of breaking them in over a bit of time. Hopefully he'll feature a lot more off the bench next season and will become a real asset to us 🙏 In all honesty although Baker was on the pitch I can only recall his name being mentioned once, Laurent’s every time we gave a free kick away ofc. Laughable that JT started at LB and has been head and shoulders our stand out midfielder when playing Depends on whose head and shoulders...he hasn't been good enough to hold down a regular spot all season under two very different heads. That said, his versatility counts against him when it should be in his favour. He also gets too many unnecessary cards, which is followed by suspension. You can't compare them as people, but Thompson is the Skeels of the 21st century. Always dependable but overlooked in important matches.
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Post by moon on Apr 15, 2024 14:09:17 GMT
I'd tend to agree. If you're good enough you're old enough. That said they can't just be thrown into the deep end and there does have to be some element of breaking them in over a bit of time. Hopefully he'll feature a lot more off the bench next season and will become a real asset to us 🙏 In all honesty although Baker was on the pitch I can only recall his name being mentioned once, Laurent’s every time we gave a free kick away ofc. Laughable that JT started at LB and has been head and shoulders our stand out midfielder when playing
JT has been adequate in midfield, Burger is the only standout performer in midfield for me; and he's not been at it recently. I like JT as a squad player, I'm not convinced he should be starting every week at this level though. Baker and Laurent clearly have quality at times, they are both very inconsistent though.
Sidibe was very promising when he got the chance, with the pressure Schumacher has been under (and also the pressure AN was under) I can see why Sidibe hasn't had more changes in the first team, it would be great to see him back in the match day squad next season though - or even this season if we're safe with a game to spare.
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Post by nottsover60 on Apr 15, 2024 14:15:57 GMT
No one in their right mind would pick a 17 year old to play Oh.. Hang on.. Klopp Ten Hag. Pep.. But apart from them clueless idiots, who else. All those managers had an excellent team to put the 17 year olds into. I think it could have been a very chastening experience at 16/17 to play in our current midfield
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Post by wazbagsbro on Apr 15, 2024 14:30:41 GMT
No one in their right mind would pick a 17 year old to play Oh.. Hang on.. Klopp Ten Hag. Pep.. But apart from them clueless idiots, who else. All those managers had an excellent team to put the 17 year olds into. I think it could have been a very chastening experience at 16/17 to play in our current midfield Could this be it, protecting a young mind from possible confidence sapping results . Maybe we have high hopes for next season with some new quality being added to play along side our youngsters. We live in hope
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 15, 2024 16:55:34 GMT
All those managers had an excellent team to put the 17 year olds into. I think it could have been a very chastening experience at 16/17 to play in our current midfield Could this be it, protecting a young mind from possible confidence sapping results . Maybe we have high hopes for next season with some new quality being added to play along side our youngsters. We live in hope But we started quite well when he was playing (not saying it was him) but we did. It doesn’t really make much sense?
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Post by mrnovember on Apr 15, 2024 17:27:35 GMT
Josh Laurent treats most games like a park run and goes out of his way not to get involved most games. Sol would have been a better option I think, even at 17.
Although I do think Laurent has improved towards the back end of the season.
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Post by leicspotter on Apr 15, 2024 17:34:53 GMT
Playing youngsters in a relegation battle, in this particular side, would probably scar them for life. I was surprised to see Lowe in the squad on Saturday, even more so for him to come on
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Post by wazbagsbro on Apr 15, 2024 18:17:08 GMT
Could this be it, protecting a young mind from possible confidence sapping results . Maybe we have high hopes for next season with some new quality being added to play along side our youngsters. We live in hope But we started quite well when he was playing (not saying it was him) but we did. It doesn’t really make much sense? Suppose that’s a good point too, I wasn’t making a statement, just trying too work out the thinking
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 15, 2024 20:05:12 GMT
But we started quite well when he was playing (not saying it was him) but we did. It doesn’t really make much sense? Suppose that’s a good point too, I wasn’t making a statement, just trying too work out the thinking Oh I know. I just don’t think there’s much justification to it tbh.
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Post by lordb on Apr 15, 2024 20:13:56 GMT
He could be on the bench atm
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Apr 15, 2024 20:22:16 GMT
At the start of the season I thought he looked good enough to keep his place for quite a while, then all of a sudden he was nowhere to be seen. Not anywhere near the subs bench either for some unknown reason.
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Post by lordb on Apr 15, 2024 20:23:46 GMT
At the start of the season I thought he looked good enough to keep his place for quite a while, then all of a sudden he was nowhere to be seen. Not anywhere near the subs bench either for some unknown reason. He did have an injury but that was a while back now
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Apr 15, 2024 21:54:01 GMT
No one is telling me he wouldn't do better than the likes of Laurent but is it fair throwing the young lad in when we are in a relegation scrap? Probably not but his time will come. Hopefully next season for us in the championship after a good pre season.
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Post by lennythegoose on Apr 16, 2024 6:22:12 GMT
Question as I genuinely don’t know. Would young Sol be training with the first team squad all the time? How does it work?
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Post by owdestokie2 on Apr 16, 2024 8:28:29 GMT
No one in their right mind would pick a 17 year old to play Oh.. Hang on.. Klopp Ten Hag. Pep.. But apart from them clueless idiots, who else. Each brought youngsters into teams playing well and with excellent players around them…….oh hang on a minute
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Post by biddulphchav on Apr 16, 2024 14:24:21 GMT
Playing youngsters in a relegation battle, in this particular side, would probably scar them for life. I was surprised to see Lowe in the squad on Saturday, even more so for him to come on Not sure what the idea was chucking Lowe on at Weds, he looked like a proper cart horse for the few minutes he was on. He badly needs a loan down the leagues and really shouldn’t be anywhere near the first team currently based on what he’s shown so far. Don’t mean to be harsh on him, he may well be an excellent player in time but he looks slow and out of his depth at the moment.
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 17, 2024 7:01:57 GMT
Playing youngsters in a relegation battle, in this particular side, would probably scar them for life. I was surprised to see Lowe in the squad on Saturday, even more so for him to come on Not sure what the idea was chucking Lowe on at Weds, he looked like a proper cart horse for the few minutes he was on. He badly needs a loan down the leagues and really shouldn’t be anywhere near the first team currently based on what he’s shown so far. Don’t mean to be harsh on him, he may well be an excellent player in time but he looks slow and out of his depth at the moment. Agreed. It’s much easier to bring in a youngster when you are 4-0 up at half time (or expect to be given the relative quality of the opposition).
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 17, 2024 7:13:49 GMT
Not sure what the idea was chucking Lowe on at Weds, he looked like a proper cart horse for the few minutes he was on. He badly needs a loan down the leagues and really shouldn’t be anywhere near the first team currently based on what he’s shown so far. Don’t mean to be harsh on him, he may well be an excellent player in time but he looks slow and out of his depth at the moment. Agreed. It’s much easier to bring in a youngster when you are 4-0 up at half time (or expect to be given the relative quality of the opposition). So we’ll never use youth players then 🤣 Just seems like a bad excuse to me. I’d love to know why he suddenly stopped appearing on the bench because it was or shouldn’t have been performance related.
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Post by professorplump on Apr 17, 2024 7:15:38 GMT
I think it is a fine line knowing when to introduce a young player and it is a decision based not just on their ability but also their mental toughness. I think Tom Edwards and Josh Tymon were probably thrown in too early and that set them back a bit. Nathan Collins by contrast looked the part straight away. I hope that Sidibe gets more opportunities next season although I doubt he will be a regular starter.
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