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Post by marylandstoke on Apr 11, 2024 14:07:25 GMT
And operate 24/7. Everyone knew in the 90's that small stores would disappear if they decided to go for an all-in-one shop instead of support local grocers and butchers. They decided that it was easier to do it all in one place. Its not like super stores just rose from the out of nowhere. They were a gradual process and people transitioned to them because they could get cheap (low quality) food, all in one place and at any time of the day. Society is to blame for the rise of super stores and mega-corporations. They could be extensively boycotted. They aren't. People could run on platforms to level the playing field (then actually do it) but they don't. No one is held to account. In the UK/US, greed flourishes because society as a whole is too lazy to combat it. I personally put a lot of blame for society's problems on all of society. Its easier to blame the exploitative practices of the mega-rich but its not like what they do is not well-known. Society chooses to look the other way. Amazon started out as a book store in a garage. People chose to flock to it instead of buying other things in stores. Now Amazon has a strange hold on the markets. Few years back went into Dundee and the city center was full of empty shops and absolutely dead. A few days later was driving along Riverside and pulled into a pub to take a work call - down the road was the Amazon depot and the number of vans coming out at the same time was absolutely unbelievable! No wonder high streets and shopping centers are totally fucked. Was off down to Solomons Island (look up the middle of nowhere, it’s just to the left) Pulled up at a traffic light to be surrounded by six of the blighters. Two in front, one to the side, one directly behind me and another next to it.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Apr 11, 2024 15:31:34 GMT
You are absolutely right Fraise. I do not blame any immigrant trying to come to this country or any western country to better themselves.I guess the question is " How many can we cope with and are we prepared to pay the " price" for double so?" Obviously this question is open to many opinions ( some supported by " facts ") and has been subject to much debate on the Oatcake. It seems to me that we ( the UK, or any western country ) cannot accept an endless( tens of millions?) Of refugees without a significant negative impact upon culture and resources. I think Population concern is one of the major issues in the world.Somehow the rich West should help economic refugees in their own country.....if only to spread the world Population geographically. Your other point about the super rich multinationals....You are absolutely right...they should pay their wack AND alot alot more of it to reduce the obscene divide between rich and poor....but ( another polarised repetitive argument on the Oatcake) their should also be no benefit cheats. I don't think it is a case of one or the other, or this tired argument that to point to benefit cheats means " letting the others off". It's both. Two wrongs. Irrespective of which is the bigger. I also think that you make another good point. In my opinion history will show that this technological revolution is as big, if not bigger than the Industrial revolution. We have not began to come to terms with it. There have been many consequences, none the least being the creation of a " Global world " , the INSTANT access to communication and knowledge ( with its problems of " what is the truth?"). One social consequence for me is ....The creation of the anonymously owned and operated multinationals....arguably , with technology, modern western society largely only needs a few people in at the top and millions of workers as delivery drivers/ call centre operatives....the new working class....but isolated, individual... on a minimum wage, easily replaced,no place for unions It is hard to tax people and to get them to pay their dues when they do not operate from this country. I also agree with what you say about the issues facing this country that no political party wants to address, the environment, housing, health, homelessness, law and order....in one sense all have got worse in my lifetime. Fuck sake John, i'm just a plasterer That's a very good post. I have the same worries as you to be fair. My frustration is the way the Big earners, Politicians and Media Corp keep us divided, breeding hatred for "johnny Foreigner" while every general election we get shafted anyway. It's the minority, greedy fuck pigs at the top that are causing so much heartache and despair in the world.....and if they weren't so obsessed with grabbing everything for wealth and power....together they could fix this world. don't understand why we all accept it and miss the real reasons for our shitty lives. For me, those immigrants should be embraced by us all and turn our pitch forks on the real culprits Utopia Felonious said something about you being plastered Fraise. Where we do differ, I'm not sure we can embrace ALL Immigrants forever and at the same time complain about the pressure on the services etc. BUT I do agree with you absolutely about the minority having an obscene disproportion of the wealth. Isn't part of the problem working out how we can change things? Arguably things like Universal credit, which ARE needed by the poorest , is simply proping up the low paid/ the system so that some of the multi nationals can make profits. Are the profits of BET365 justified?( for clarity , I think it is an ethical company )
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Post by frasier37 on Apr 11, 2024 16:21:29 GMT
Fuck sake John, i'm just a plasterer That's a very good post. I have the same worries as you to be fair. My frustration is the way the Big earners, Politicians and Media Corp keep us divided, breeding hatred for "johnny Foreigner" while every general election we get shafted anyway. It's the minority, greedy fuck pigs at the top that are causing so much heartache and despair in the world.....and if they weren't so obsessed with grabbing everything for wealth and power....together they could fix this world. don't understand why we all accept it and miss the real reasons for our shitty lives. For me, those immigrants should be embraced by us all and turn our pitch forks on the real culprits Utopia Felonious said something about you being plastered Fraise. Where we do differ, I'm not sure we can embrace ALL Immigrants forever and at the same time complain about the pressure on the services etc. BUT I do agree with you absolutely about the minority having an obscene disproportion of the wealth. Isn't part of the problem working out how we can change things? Arguably things like Universal credit, which ARE needed by the poorest , is simply proping up the low paid/ the system so that some of the multi nationals can make profits. Are the profits of BET365 justified?( for clarity , I think it is an ethical company ) i'll be honest John my thoughts on politics has done a full circle and traveled through a couple of black holes over the past few years, so im pretty sure we do differ as ive said politics is there as a distraction for whats really happening i have no answer to your questions sorry, there's a reason i'm a plasterer and not a politician etc ..... for me the whole system is wrong because its riddled in corruption .....capitalism, socialism, marxism all created with good intentions im sure, immediately taken over with self greed and power obsession Unless the whole world stops focusing on personal wealth and uses everything in its power solely for the good of people (all people) we are doomed. find a way for everyone to be as equal as possible. and i wont even start with BET365 mate my personal thoughts on them are not for this place we have created Hell.
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Post by gawa on Apr 11, 2024 16:25:08 GMT
You are absolutely right Fraise. I do not blame any immigrant trying to come to this country or any western country to better themselves.I guess the question is " How many can we cope with and are we prepared to pay the " price" for double so?" Obviously this question is open to many opinions ( some supported by " facts ") and has been subject to much debate on the Oatcake. It seems to me that we ( the UK, or any western country ) cannot accept an endless( tens of millions?) Of refugees without a significant negative impact upon culture and resources. I think Population concern is one of the major issues in the world.Somehow the rich West should help economic refugees in their own country.....if only to spread the world Population geographically. Your other point about the super rich multinationals....You are absolutely right...they should pay their wack AND alot alot more of it to reduce the obscene divide between rich and poor....but ( another polarised repetitive argument on the Oatcake) their should also be no benefit cheats. I don't think it is a case of one or the other, or this tired argument that to point to benefit cheats means " letting the others off". It's both. Two wrongs. Irrespective of which is the bigger. I also think that you make another good point. In my opinion history will show that this technological revolution is as big, if not bigger than the Industrial revolution. We have not began to come to terms with it. There have been many consequences, none the least being the creation of a " Global world " , the INSTANT access to communication and knowledge ( with its problems of " what is the truth?"). One social consequence for me is ....The creation of the anonymously owned and operated multinationals....arguably , with technology, modern western society largely only needs a few people in at the top and millions of workers as delivery drivers/ call centre operatives....the new working class....but isolated, individual... on a minimum wage, easily replaced,no place for unions It is hard to tax people and to get them to pay their dues when they do not operate from this country. I also agree with what you say about the issues facing this country that no political party wants to address, the environment, housing, health, homelessness, law and order....in one sense all have got worse in my lifetime. Fuck sake John, i'm just a plasterer Oh you might know thehartshillbadger then. He identifies as a plasteres radio on Saturday nights.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 11, 2024 16:26:07 GMT
Fuck sake John, i'm just a plasterer Oh you might know thehartshillbadger then. He identifies as a plasteres radio on Saturday nights. At least I’m not Irish😉
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Post by frasier37 on Apr 11, 2024 16:28:54 GMT
Fuck sake John, i'm just a plasterer Oh you might know thehartshillbadger then. He identifies as a plasteres radio on Saturday nights. yes, i cant get a tune out of mine either
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