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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 12, 2024 11:14:15 GMT
Just poor in n general. Awful decisions at different games regularly lnc West Brom in the week I agree Jesus. The officiating is piss poor in the championship. It does feel like we get the rough end but if you asked fans of every other club they would probably say the same. For sure Leeds had some poor decisions go against them recently have noticed. Clear handball not given the other night added to it
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Apr 12, 2024 11:58:18 GMT
I agree Jesus. The officiating is piss poor in the championship. It does feel like we get the rough end but if you asked fans of every other club they would probably say the same. For sure Leeds had some poor decisions go against them recently have noticed. Clear handball not given the other night added to it When it's your own team its easy to say we get the wank refs and it is true we do but so do the other teams in the division as the officiating is so poor.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 12, 2024 12:05:23 GMT
He just had a bad game. It hasn't happened very often. Burger was rightfully moaning at the ref as well. We complain that our players don't care just accept injustices without a fuss and then one of them moans, he's criticised for doing just that. At the end of the day, we are such a poor team that the players can't win no matter what they do anymore in reality. We've all checked out from them and are counting the days until most of them disappear (Hopefully). It's a shame they are crap really because in the main, I get the impression that they are all good lads. They just aren't very good. We've got be the only club that signs 17 players and only 3 of them make us any better off, going have to sign another 15 this summer The daft thing is we probably don't need that many players. We need 2 or 3 real quality players, in key positions, that can elevate the rest of the team. Put a 17 year old Ryan Shawcross at the back, Rory Delap in midfield and Ricardo Fuller up front among this lot and we probably change from relegation contenders to promotion contenders almost immediately. Add in a Liam Lawrence (who can create from set pieces and score goals himself) and we probably win the league with those 4 + the rest of what we have.
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Post by rowleyscfc on Apr 12, 2024 12:13:53 GMT
We've got be the only club that signs 17 players and only 3 of them make us any better off, going have to sign another 15 this summer The daft thing is we probably don't need that many players. We need 2 or 3 real quality players, in key positions, that can elevate the rest of the team. Put a 17 year old Ryan Shawcross at the back, Rory Delap in midfield and Ricardo Fuller up front among this lot and we probably change from relegation contenders to promotion contenders almost immediately. Add in a Liam Lawrence (who can create from set pieces and score goals himself) and we probably win the league with those 4 + the rest of what we have. I believe your only ever 5 signing away from relegation and the same with promotion. Goalkeeper x2 CB's x2 LB Creative midfielder Striker and 5 loans that will bolster up the squad and compete for starting places Junho, Burger, Mmaee and Manhoef only current players who are any better than a squad player when they're on it, the rest are distinctly average, but come in handy in a squad
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Post by yellowsnowman on Apr 12, 2024 12:18:15 GMT
I think we need more than that. 4 quality players added to this steaming pile will not get us close to promotion.
I mean id love it to be right.
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Post by thornestein on Apr 12, 2024 12:18:32 GMT
The daft thing is we probably don't need that many players. We need 2 or 3 real quality players, in key positions, that can elevate the rest of the team. Put a 17 year old Ryan Shawcross at the back, Rory Delap in midfield and Ricardo Fuller up front among this lot and we probably change from relegation contenders to promotion contenders almost immediately. Add in a Liam Lawrence (who can create from set pieces and score goals himself) and we probably win the league with those 4 + the rest of what we have. I believe your only ever 5 signing away from relegation and the same with promotion. Goalkeeper x2 CB's x2 LB Creative midfielder Striker and 5 loans that will bolster up the squad and compete for starting places Junho, Burger, Mmaee and Manhoef only current players who are any better than a squad player when they're on it, the rest are distinctly average, but come in handy in a squad in recent years loans players haven’t really been a success for us for some reason
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Post by wakeypotter on Apr 12, 2024 12:24:05 GMT
I believe your only ever 5 signing away from relegation and the same with promotion. Goalkeeper x2 CB's x2 LB Creative midfielder Striker and 5 loans that will bolster up the squad and compete for starting places Junho, Burger, Mmaee and Manhoef only current players who are any better than a squad player when they're on it, the rest are distinctly average, but come in handy in a squad in recent years loans players haven’t really been a success for us for some reason I’m not a fan of loan players I don’t think they’re hungry enough
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 12, 2024 12:30:24 GMT
in recent years loans players haven’t really been a success for us for some reason I’m not a fan of loan players I don’t think they’re hungry enough Southall looked hungry
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Post by etebojan on Apr 12, 2024 13:02:50 GMT
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Post by rowleyscfc on Apr 12, 2024 13:03:20 GMT
I believe your only ever 5 signing away from relegation and the same with promotion. Goalkeeper x2 CB's x2 LB Creative midfielder Striker and 5 loans that will bolster up the squad and compete for starting places Junho, Burger, Mmaee and Manhoef only current players who are any better than a squad player when they're on it, the rest are distinctly average, but come in handy in a squad in recent years loans players haven’t really been a success for us for some reason Agreed, maybe getting players slightly too early, i'd argue Hoever has been the best loan since we come down, our top scorer since he joined the club
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Post by stiggerstackle on Apr 12, 2024 13:39:27 GMT
The sorting hat is back! Yay!!!
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Post by wakeypotter on Apr 12, 2024 13:49:59 GMT
I’m not a fan of loan players I don’t think they’re hungry enough Southall looked hungry 😂😂
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Apr 12, 2024 14:07:35 GMT
If it’s nil nil I’ll make toffee apples outta my balls 😆 It could be. Quick tip, let the toffee cool down first. Less burning. If it’s nil nil I’ll coat them with boiling toffee and let you blow on them to cool them down…😀
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 12, 2024 14:44:12 GMT
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Post by J-Roar on Apr 12, 2024 14:49:45 GMT
in recent years loans players haven’t really been a success for us for some reason I’m not a fan of loan players I don’t think they’re hungry enough When you compare them to permanent signings like Charlie Adam, you've got a point.
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Post by thornestein on Apr 12, 2024 15:09:45 GMT
The sorting hat is back! Yay!!! we need change it tomorrow, we need be a lot tighter and not so gung-ho, same as away to Hull
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 12, 2024 15:12:22 GMT
Wonder if he'll leave Bae out completely tomorrow to give him a rest? He did look out on his feet after the WBA game - and during that first half in midweek www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-live-sheffield-wednesday-9221856One or two players looked like they were running on empty on Wednesday. Is that something you have to factor in for this weekend?Schumacher: Yeah possibly. We took Junho off at half-time on Wednesday. I spoke about it a couple of weeks ago, how Junho has been playing continuous football since March or April last year without a break and Wednesday night felt like one game too far for him. It felt like every time the ball went to him he was a bit jaded and that can happen with such a young player who hasn't played at this level or in this country before. You might have a game or half a game when that happens. He understands it. We're just trying to protect him. Million was similar. It looked like he was tried towards the end of the game. I thought he was really lively and if anyone was going to create something for us it was going to be him but he was tired as well. It can happen. It's a new environment for these young players and we've got to help them through it as best we can.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 12, 2024 15:15:54 GMT
Wonder if he'll leave Bae out completely tomorrow to give him a rest? He did look out on his feet after the WBA game - and during that first half in midweek www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-live-sheffield-wednesday-9221856One or two players looked like they were running on empty on Wednesday. Is that something you have to factor in for this weekend?Schumacher: Yeah possibly. We took Junho off at half-time on Wednesday. I spoke about it a couple of weeks ago, how Junho has been playing continuous football since March or April last year without a break and Wednesday night felt like one game too far for him. It felt like every time the ball went to him he was a bit jaded and that can happen with such a young player who hasn't played at this level or in this country before. You might have a game or half a game when that happens. He understands it. We're just trying to protect him. Million was similar. It looked like he was tried towards the end of the game. I thought he was really lively and if anyone was going to create something for us it was going to be him but he was tired as well. It can happen. It's a new environment for these young players and we've got to help them through it as best we can. Nailed on Leris for Manhoef and Haksabanovic for Bae Jun-ho I would say......
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 12, 2024 15:23:44 GMT
Wonder if he'll leave Bae out completely tomorrow to give him a rest? He did look out on his feet after the WBA game - and during that first half in midweek www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-live-sheffield-wednesday-9221856One or two players looked like they were running on empty on Wednesday. Is that something you have to factor in for this weekend?Schumacher: Yeah possibly. We took Junho off at half-time on Wednesday. I spoke about it a couple of weeks ago, how Junho has been playing continuous football since March or April last year without a break and Wednesday night felt like one game too far for him. It felt like every time the ball went to him he was a bit jaded and that can happen with such a young player who hasn't played at this level or in this country before. You might have a game or half a game when that happens. He understands it. We're just trying to protect him. Million was similar. It looked like he was tried towards the end of the game. I thought he was really lively and if anyone was going to create something for us it was going to be him but he was tired as well. It can happen. It's a new environment for these young players and we've got to help them through it as best we can. Nailed on Leris for Manhoef and Haksabanovic for Bae Jun-ho I would say...... Wouldn't be surprised - but the fear would be a complete lack of goal threat. A Leris-Haks-Ennis front three would have to be a contender for the most unlikely to score 3 we've ever fielded. So whether you'd then have to play Campbell and Baker, just to give yourself a chance of finishing off a half chance or a set-piece and tick the team goal threat up from non-existent to negligible, who knows?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 12, 2024 15:28:40 GMT
Nailed on Leris for Manhoef and Haksabanovic for Bae Jun-ho I would say...... Wouldn't be surprised - but the fear would be a complete lack of goal threat. A Leris-Haks-Ennis front three would have to be a contender for the most unlikely to score 3 we've ever fielded. So whether you'd then have to play Campbell and Baker, just to give yourself a chance of finishing off a half chance or a set-piece and tick the team goal threat up from non-existent to negligible, who knows? Wesley back involved I’m led to believe after picking up an injury in Dubai a few weeks back
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Post by nott1 on Apr 12, 2024 15:31:33 GMT
Wouldn't be surprised - but the fear would be a complete lack of goal threat. A Leris-Haks-Ennis front three would have to be a contender for the most unlikely to score 3 we've ever fielded. So whether you'd then have to play Campbell and Baker, just to give yourself a chance of finishing off a half chance or a set-piece and tick the team goal threat up from non-existent to negligible, who knows? Wesley back involved I’m led to believe after picking up an injury in Dubai a few weeks back Bet that's the answer eh?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 12, 2024 15:32:22 GMT
Wesley back involved I’m led to believe after picking up an injury in Dubai a few weeks back Bet that's the answer eh? It might be in heading their set plays away
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Apr 12, 2024 15:42:13 GMT
I find it really hard to believe in Schumacher. He exudes doubt and uncertainty. I guess it’s his lack of experience but his general demeanour and body language screams ‘ I’m not sure what I’m doing’
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Post by ChesterStokie on Apr 12, 2024 15:49:36 GMT
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 12, 2024 16:01:45 GMT
Wonder if he'll leave Bae out completely tomorrow to give him a rest? He did look out on his feet after the WBA game - and during that first half in midweek www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-live-sheffield-wednesday-9221856One or two players looked like they were running on empty on Wednesday. Is that something you have to factor in for this weekend?Schumacher: Yeah possibly. We took Junho off at half-time on Wednesday. I spoke about it a couple of weeks ago, how Junho has been playing continuous football since March or April last year without a break and Wednesday night felt like one game too far for him. It felt like every time the ball went to him he was a bit jaded and that can happen with such a young player who hasn't played at this level or in this country before. You might have a game or half a game when that happens. He understands it. We're just trying to protect him. Million was similar. It looked like he was tried towards the end of the game. I thought he was really lively and if anyone was going to create something for us it was going to be him but he was tired as well. It can happen. It's a new environment for these young players and we've got to help them through it as best we can. Getting that feeling. Hopefully on the bench for me rather than left out
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Post by callas12 on Apr 12, 2024 16:21:16 GMT
Wouldn't be surprised - but the fear would be a complete lack of goal threat. A Leris-Haks-Ennis front three would have to be a contender for the most unlikely to score 3 we've ever fielded. So whether you'd then have to play Campbell and Baker, just to give yourself a chance of finishing off a half chance or a set-piece and tick the team goal threat up from non-existent to negligible, who knows? Wesley back involved I’m led to believe after picking up an injury in Dubai a few weeks back That just about sums us up doesn't it?! Players usually got to Dubai for warm weather training to get out of our Winter/Spring cold and damp weather & to help prevent injuries! Only Big Wes representing Stoke could go out there & injure himself! 🙄😬
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Post by foxysgloves on Apr 12, 2024 17:52:43 GMT
I’m still sickened after Swansea.
I almost want the fuckers to lose because they don’t deserve to stay up based on that spineless effort.
But most of them don’t give a shit what division we’re in next season. So we’re the ones who’ll suffer.
Hopefully the few who care will get us a result and we can scrape survival before getting rid of the wankers who put us in this miserable position.
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Post by Xyphon on Apr 12, 2024 22:11:01 GMT
Lets have some score predictions. My grudge is Shef Wed 1-4 Stoke
Realistic is Shef Wed 3-0 Stoke
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Post by Marc01 on Apr 12, 2024 22:12:28 GMT
Surprisingly, from 1970’s onwards we’ve only played 9 league games at Hillsborough. W 1 D 5 L 3 The only win in that lot was a 2-0 in 2005…when Sam Bang and Big Mama scored. Remember a 1-1 draw there in the promotion season with Shola Ameobi playing for Stoke. Plus 1 league cup defeat in 1999 and a 1-0 win in the Simod Cup in 87… was that a George Berry penalty? www.11v11.com/teams/sheffield-wednesday/tab/opposingTeams/opposition/Stoke%20City/
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 12, 2024 22:19:54 GMT
Surprisingly, from 1970’s onwards we’ve only played 9 league games at Hillsborough. W 1 D 5 L 3 The only win in that lot was a 2-0 in 2005…when Sam Bang and Big Mama scored. Remember a 1-1 draw there in the promotion season with Shola Ameobi playing for Stoke. Plus 1 league cup defeat in 1999 and a 1-0 win in the Simod Cup in 87… was that a George Berry penalty? www.11v11.com/teams/sheffield-wednesday/tab/opposingTeams/opposition/Stoke%20City/1987 was a great night though big George won the game and they thought we were ade celebrating like World Cup winners for the tin pot trophy early rounds
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