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Post by LGH87 on Apr 11, 2024 9:54:21 GMT
Big Partisan Crowd Big expectation on both sides. No Stoke Fan seriously thinks this will end well for us, surely ? I know we can hope. But ….. Sounds exactly like the Hull game.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 11, 2024 10:08:18 GMT
We can win it depending on which side of ours shows up.
There’s no consistency to the results.
What do we know?
The defence will make a mistake and the forwards will need 20 chances for 1 goal. So go for it.
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Post by matelot1996 on Apr 11, 2024 10:09:22 GMT
Big Partisan Crowd Big expectation on both sides. No Stoke Fan seriously thinks this will end well for us, surely ? I know we can hope. But ….. Sounds exactly like the Hull game. Hull circa 20,000. Hilsborough will be approaching 40,000 SW Fans are far louder and more passionate. The ref will probably be home team bias due to the crowd. So nothing like Hull really.
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Post by Rick Grimes on Apr 11, 2024 10:54:13 GMT
What a massive game this is.
If the version of that turned up last night plays then we’re fucked. Hopefully the version of us that did well against Preston and Hull decides to show up.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Apr 11, 2024 11:06:10 GMT
How do we tweak the selection to give us a chance though? For me we have no option but to play Campbell and Ennis with perhaps Bae on the left wing and go with Burger, Laurent and Baker as a midfield three. I also thought McNally was so bad that I would be tempted to bring Willmott back. He's quicker than both our centre back options and has better distribution. He's also our player unlike McNally. We can't go too lightweight up top so have to start with two strikers surely.
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Post by idle on Apr 11, 2024 11:20:50 GMT
How do we tweak the selection to give us a chance though? For me we have no option but to play Campbell and Ennis with perhaps Bae on the left wing and go with Burger, Laurent and Baker as a midfield three. I also thought McNally was so bad that I would be tempted to bring Willmott back. He's quicker than both our centre back options and has better distribution. He's also our player unlike McNally. We can't go too lightweight up top so have to start with two strikers surely. Manhoef is way better than Campbell though, and if being our own player is an argument, he won't be ours for more than a few weeks. And Wilmot - we'll be certain to go down with him in the team. Other than that I guess I agree. Iversen Hoever McNally Rose Stevens Burger Baker Laurent Manhoef Ennis (or maybe Lowe) Bae
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Apr 11, 2024 11:36:28 GMT
I think we’ll lose on Saturday.
Wednesday showed loads of fight on Tuesday night, even though they’re pretty shit.
We’re shit with no fight (despite the whole blame the fans JW battle cry bollocks)
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Post by thornestein on Apr 11, 2024 11:36:50 GMT
How do we tweak the selection to give us a chance though? For me we have no option but to play Campbell and Ennis with perhaps Bae on the left wing and go with Burger, Laurent and Baker as a midfield three. I also thought McNally was so bad that I would be tempted to bring Willmott back. He's quicker than both our centre back options and has better distribution. He's also our player unlike McNally. We can't go too lightweight up top so have to start with two strikers surely. Manhoef is way better than Campbell though, and if being our own player is an argument, he won't be ours for more than a few weeks. And Wilmot - we'll be certain to go down with him in the team. Other than that I guess I agree. Iversen Hoever McNally Rose Stevens Burger Baker Laurent Manhoef Ennis (or maybe Lowe) Bae Laurent after the last 3 performances 🤷♂️
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 11, 2024 11:41:19 GMT
I think we’ll lose on Saturday. Wednesday showed loads of fight on Tuesday night, even though they’re pretty shit. We’re shit with no fight (despite the whole blame the fans JW battle cry bollocks) We showed plenty of fight on Saturday Let's not see last night as a blueprint for every game to come
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Post by dirtygary69 on Apr 11, 2024 11:41:52 GMT
Manhoef is way better than Campbell though, and if being our own player is an argument, he won't be ours for more than a few weeks. And Wilmot - we'll be certain to go down with him in the team. Other than that I guess I agree. Iversen Hoever McNally Rose Stevens Burger Baker Laurent Manhoef Ennis (or maybe Lowe) Bae Laurent after the last 3 performances 🤷♂️ He's not going to drop him though, is he?
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Post by thornestein on Apr 11, 2024 11:42:22 GMT
Laurent after the last 3 performances 🤷♂️ He's not going to drop him though, is he? he should do if he knew what he’s doing
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Post by dirtygary69 on Apr 11, 2024 11:45:20 GMT
I don't know how I'd go for this one. We beat Hull by being physical because they weren't a big side and Leris did well against the LB. Unfortunately, Sheffield Wednesday are a much more physical outfit so if we go for that approach, I'm not sure it'll pay off.
Can see it being something like:
Iversen
Hoever McNally (possibly Wilmot but wasn't on the bench?) Rose Tchamadeu
Thompson Burger Laurent
Haks Campbell Leris
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Post by Numismatist on Apr 11, 2024 11:49:04 GMT
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Post by idle on Apr 11, 2024 12:50:06 GMT
Manhoef is way better than Campbell though, and if being our own player is an argument, he won't be ours for more than a few weeks. And Wilmot - we'll be certain to go down with him in the team. Other than that I guess I agree. Iversen Hoever McNally Rose Stevens Burger Baker Laurent Manhoef Ennis (or maybe Lowe) Bae Laurent after the last 3 performances 🤷♂️ I know, but the alternative is Thompson, who I don't rate in midfield at all. If we drop Laurent it should be Sidebe.
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Post by shrewspotter on Apr 11, 2024 13:00:43 GMT
As bad as last night was I dont think we shoudl be throwing the bathwater out with the baby
Firstly I think Junho despite most of us suggesting he is better in teh 10 role should play out on the left and drift in.
Secondly we missed an extra man in Midfield last night, and Burger and Laurent were totally outplayed by Grimes, also our goal threat seems to come from midfield so we need someone who can score in there
and lastly a 4-3-3 seems to be suiting us better than a 4-2-3-1, therefore I would go
Iversen However, McNally, Rose, Stevens Burger, Baker, Laurent Manhoef, Ennis, Junho Bench: Campbell, Bonham, Thompson, Vidigal, Haks, Cundle, Lowe, Leris, Haksobanovic.
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Post by biddulphchav on Apr 11, 2024 13:15:01 GMT
As bad as last night was I dont think we shoudl be throwing the bathwater out with the baby Firstly I think Junho despite most of us suggesting he is better in teh 10 role should play out on the left and drift in. Secondly we missed an extra man in Midfield last night, and Burger and Laurent were totally outplayed by Grimes, also our goal threat seems to come from midfield so we need someone who can score in there and lastly a 4-3-3 seems to be suiting us better than a 4-2-3-1, therefore I would go Iversen However, McNally, Rose, Stevens Burger, Baker, Laurent Manhoef, Ennis, Junho Bench: Campbell, Bonham, Thompson, Vidigal, Haks, Cundle, Lowe, Leris, Haksobanovic. What do you think Ennis offers up top? Serious question as for me he’s one of the worst strikers we’ve had in many years. Can’t see any redeeming features other than work rate.
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Post by idle on Apr 11, 2024 13:23:16 GMT
As bad as last night was I dont think we shoudl be throwing the bathwater out with the baby Firstly I think Junho despite most of us suggesting he is better in teh 10 role should play out on the left and drift in. Secondly we missed an extra man in Midfield last night, and Burger and Laurent were totally outplayed by Grimes, also our goal threat seems to come from midfield so we need someone who can score in there and lastly a 4-3-3 seems to be suiting us better than a 4-2-3-1, therefore I would go Iversen However, McNally, Rose, Stevens Burger, Baker, Laurent Manhoef, Ennis, Junho Bench: Campbell, Bonham, Thompson, Vidigal, Haks, Cundle, Lowe, Leris, Haksobanovic. What do you think Ennis offers up top? Serious question as for me he’s one of the worst strikers we’ve had in many years. Can’t see any redeeming features other than work rate. Work rate is at least something. He also has quick reactions, like when he scored last night. Other than that, not much. Campbell has pace (but no stamina), can dribble but seldom with end product, can finish but seldom gets into position, but other than that has nothing. He's like the polar opposite of Ennis...
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Apr 11, 2024 13:28:16 GMT
Iversen
Hoever McNally Rose Stevens
Baker Thompson Burger
Million Campbell Bae
Campbell owes us a performance and a couple of goals before he leaves.
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Post by shrewspotter on Apr 11, 2024 13:36:27 GMT
As bad as last night was I dont think we shoudl be throwing the bathwater out with the baby Firstly I think Junho despite most of us suggesting he is better in teh 10 role should play out on the left and drift in. Secondly we missed an extra man in Midfield last night, and Burger and Laurent were totally outplayed by Grimes, also our goal threat seems to come from midfield so we need someone who can score in there and lastly a 4-3-3 seems to be suiting us better than a 4-2-3-1, therefore I would go Iversen However, McNally, Rose, Stevens Burger, Baker, Laurent Manhoef, Ennis, Junho Bench: Campbell, Bonham, Thompson, Vidigal, Haks, Cundle, Lowe, Leris, Haksobanovic. What do you think Ennis offers up top? Serious question as for me he’s one of the worst strikers we’ve had in many years. Can’t see any redeeming features other than work rate. Not a lot to be honest, but he does work hard (that should be a minimum in my book anyway!), he does close down and chase things. Granted its not ideal but if we go with a striker its Ennis, the dis-interested Campbell, not ready Lowe or you play someone out of position such as Haks, Leris or Vidigal
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Post by redstriper on Apr 11, 2024 13:37:12 GMT
Relax, I'm going on Saturday and I'm unbeaten away this season... Ditto. We must be good a picking games I'm expecting a massive performance from the players in front of 4k of very loud support. A point is much better for us than for them, so don't underestimate the pressure on their players too. Bae is going to get us something from this game and be given the freedom of stoke afterwards. Corach is going to win the national again, rahm is going to win the masters again, and I'm going to celebrate a stunning treble* * As long as it stays dry for all three events.
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Post by theonlooker on Apr 11, 2024 14:10:10 GMT
Relax, I'm going on Saturday and I'm unbeaten away this season... Ditto. We must be good a picking games I'm expecting a massive performance from the players in front of 4k of very loud support. A point is much better for us than for them, so don't underestimate the pressure on their players too. Bae is going to get us something from this game and be given the freedom of stoke afterwards. Corach is going to win the national again, rahm is going to win the masters again, and I'm going to celebrate a stunning treble* * As long as it stays dry for all three events. I'll be honest. The (sods) law of averages is starting to worry me a bit. I'm normally good for one away day leathering a season. 🤦♀️
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Post by stiggerstackle on Apr 11, 2024 14:17:46 GMT
What do you think Ennis offers up top? Serious question as for me he’s one of the worst strikers we’ve had in many years. Can’t see any redeeming features other than work rate. Work rate is at least something. He also has quick reactions, like when he scored last night. Other than that, not much. Campbell has pace (but no stamina), can dribble but seldom with end product, can finish but seldom gets into position, but other than that has nothing. He's like the polar opposite of Ennis... Campbell is done, he doesn't care, at least Ennis, for his limitations has something to play for and actually sticks his foot in.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 11, 2024 14:35:41 GMT
Sounds exactly like the Hull game. Hull circa 20,000. Hilsborough will be approaching 40,000 SW Fans are far louder and more passionate. The ref will probably be home team bias due to the crowd. So nothing like Hull really. Capacity is 33,500 these days. They've currently sold 29,246 tickets.......
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Post by superpotter on Apr 11, 2024 14:44:23 GMT
Was really looking forward to this one but after last night slightly worried, surely we can’t be that bad again , if we are then we can have no complaints about relegation which would be a disaster.
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Post by yellowsnowman on Apr 11, 2024 14:51:10 GMT
Iversen
Hoever Mcnally Rose Stevens
Burger Thompson
Bae
Manhoef ? Junior
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Post by robwahlmann on Apr 11, 2024 14:56:40 GMT
As bad as last night was I dont think we shoudl be throwing the bathwater out with the baby Firstly I think Junho despite most of us suggesting he is better in teh 10 role should play out on the left and drift in. Secondly we missed an extra man in Midfield last night, and Burger and Laurent were totally outplayed by Grimes, also our goal threat seems to come from midfield so we need someone who can score in there and lastly a 4-3-3 seems to be suiting us better than a 4-2-3-1, therefore I would go Iversen However, McNally, Rose, Stevens Burger, Baker, Laurent Manhoef, Ennis, Junho Bench: Campbell, Bonham, Thompson, Vidigal, Haks, Cundle, Lowe, Leris, Haksobanovic. Junior!?
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Apr 11, 2024 15:25:28 GMT
He's not going to drop him though, is he? he should do if he knew what he’s doing If the manager/coach is unable to drop a player who's been very poor in his last 3 games,then he needs to look at himself & ask am I doing what is best for the club?
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Post by westlandstokie on Apr 11, 2024 15:32:18 GMT
How do we tweak the selection to give us a chance though? For me we have no option but to play Campbell and Ennis with perhaps Bae on the left wing and go with Burger, Laurent and Baker as a midfield three. I also thought McNally was so bad that I would be tempted to bring Willmott back. He's quicker than both our centre back options and has better distribution. He's also our player unlike McNally. We can't go too lightweight up top so have to start with two strikers surely. I agree about starting 2 strikers but I bet he doesn’t…I’ve a gut feeling he will go for a point…having said that I’m really looking forward to this one…we will be there about 11.30am having a few pints in town.
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Post by stokiesteve on Apr 11, 2024 15:40:13 GMT
After last night, I don’t know where the next goal and clean sheet is coming from.
We’re still in deep shit.
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Post by Mendicant on Apr 11, 2024 15:41:23 GMT
Remember the octopus which could predict World Cup results? Well I think we might have something similar going on in our house.
I was trying to watch the Swansea away game last night and the cat was constantly pestering me. At first I thought she wanted to play or for me make a fuss of her but after the second goal I finally realised what was happening. She was trying to warn me that Stoke are wank, because cats are intelligent and they care about us. She wasn’t exactly wrong was she?
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