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Post by mickeythemaestro on Apr 7, 2024 10:21:02 GMT
The first it’s the fans fault claxon. NO ITS NOT Penalties are pressure shots. You have an age to think and prepare. They are nothing like reacting in a game. General anxiety, fear of missing and crowd reaction will play a huge role. Gotta be a numpty to think otherwise. They are professional footballers who are getting paid handsomely. I watch kids on a Sunday morning with better penalty taking abilities than a lot of our last 30 or so penalties. They need to improve because the penalty stats don't lie. We are fucking gash at penalties....
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Post by jeycov on Apr 7, 2024 11:40:51 GMT
Time for a word from SJW who famously scored 2 own goals and missed a penalty in the same game ( v Chelsea) 2020 Check out recording on radio five live He goes on to say how he scored more than he missed “ it happens, just get over it, can’t take it heart” , he took the next penalty awarded to us and scored Probably practised lots Jey have you been in some kind of time warp…….Those SJW own goals & peno miss vs Chelsea was 2013 not 2020. It also ended a long unbeaten home record at the Brit. Fair enough need to spell ( number ) check
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Apr 7, 2024 12:48:16 GMT
Even if Stokes penalty philosophy over recent times had been as basic as just hit it hard and make fucking sure its on target then we'd have a much better record. Somehow we've managed to come up with something that's made us one of, if not the worst in Europe. Amazing really...
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 7, 2024 12:56:22 GMT
Man City have missed 25/80
One or two decent players there
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Apr 7, 2024 12:59:49 GMT
Man City have missed 25/80 One or two decent players there Blimey I'm surprised at that 😳 Does that date back to when they were shit?
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 7, 2024 13:02:44 GMT
Man City have missed 25/80 One or two decent players there Blimey I'm surprised at that 😳 Does that date back to when they were shit? Pep era
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Apr 7, 2024 13:11:12 GMT
Blimey I'm surprised at that 😳 Does that date back to when they were shit? Pep era They get given a lot of penalties in that case.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 7, 2024 13:20:51 GMT
They get given a lot of penalties in that case. 6 seasons in all competitions apparently Yep is a lot
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Post by Marc01 on Apr 7, 2024 14:00:36 GMT
The way Vidigal took possession of the ball ready for the penalty made me think, perhaps he was a penalty expert in training?
That didn’t stop me nervously laughing and saying to the bloke next to me..
Why is he taking the penalty? He’d better be good at it! 🙂
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Apr 7, 2024 14:27:00 GMT
Couple of things which make it more annoying. Many of the regular offenders had fantastic records before coming here (Johnson and vokes)
Also, when we were at our worst, just before and after relegation, butland was in goal. Did he ever save or look like saving a pen?
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 7, 2024 14:32:17 GMT
Couple of things which make it more annoying. Many of the regular offenders had fantastic records before coming here (Johnson and vokes) Also, when we were at our worst, just before and after relegation, butland was in goal. Did he ever save or look like saving a pen? Think Vokes missed his first pen for Wales. Think the only one he missed before joining us. V Panama maybe
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Apr 7, 2024 20:13:32 GMT
I'll never pretend to be a professional footballer, or understand what it takes to step up and take a pen.. However.. Is it really too much to ask for ANY professional footballer to be able to pick a side and strike a ball convincingly with power and a fair bit of accuracy? I'm not asking for a Jorginiho-esc stutter run up where he waits for the keeper to move, just kick it hard into one of the fucking corners. To be fair some of the best penalty takes don't do that. They wait for the keeper to go then stroke it in. If a keeper saves it then it can look like a pretty poor penalty. A player who can't get a penalty on target is what infuriates me. Ok it's easy to mis hit a ball, slip etc and it happens. Quite a good few takers today don't necessarily put them too far away from a keeper and have missed the odd one making it look like a terrible penalty. To call that the worst penalty you've ever seen is a ridiculous exaggeration as someone did. Worse than one that balloons over the bar like Bamford? Hardly, was far from great but a good keeper couldn't hold it and thankfully Vidigal reacted quickly. God, I remember as a young teen someone absolutely cunting one over at the Boothen End - I can't for the life of me remember who, but for some reason the name Marlon Broomes is sticking out to me.
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Post by Marc01 on Apr 7, 2024 20:19:05 GMT
To be fair some of the best penalty takes don't do that. They wait for the keeper to go then stroke it in. If a keeper saves it then it can look like a pretty poor penalty. A player who can't get a penalty on target is what infuriates me. Ok it's easy to mis hit a ball, slip etc and it happens. Quite a good few takers today don't necessarily put them too far away from a keeper and have missed the odd one making it look like a terrible penalty. To call that the worst penalty you've ever seen is a ridiculous exaggeration as someone did. Worse than one that balloons over the bar like Bamford? Hardly, was far from great but a good keeper couldn't hold it and thankfully Vidigal reacted quickly. God, I remember as a young teen someone absolutely cunting one over at the Boothen End - I can't for the life of me remember who, but for some reason the name Marlon Broomes is sticking out to me. amp.theguardian.com/football/2005/aug/07/match.sport1
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 7, 2024 20:20:30 GMT
To be fair some of the best penalty takes don't do that. They wait for the keeper to go then stroke it in. If a keeper saves it then it can look like a pretty poor penalty. A player who can't get a penalty on target is what infuriates me. Ok it's easy to mis hit a ball, slip etc and it happens. Quite a good few takers today don't necessarily put them too far away from a keeper and have missed the odd one making it look like a terrible penalty. To call that the worst penalty you've ever seen is a ridiculous exaggeration as someone did. Worse than one that balloons over the bar like Bamford? Hardly, was far from great but a good keeper couldn't hold it and thankfully Vidigal reacted quickly. God, I remember as a young teen someone absolutely cunting one over at the Boothen End - I can't for the life of me remember who, but for some reason the name Marlon Broomes is sticking out to me. Kevin Harper opening day of the season?
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 7, 2024 20:23:07 GMT
God, I remember as a young teen someone absolutely cunting one over at the Boothen End - I can't for the life of me remember who, but for some reason the name Marlon Broomes is sticking out to me. Kevin Harper opening day of the season? Think we sponsored that game
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Apr 7, 2024 20:26:36 GMT
Wasn't Butlands only pen save against Chelsea to put us into the league Cup Semi?
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 7, 2024 21:48:47 GMT
Even if Stokes penalty philosophy over recent times had been as basic as just hit it hard and make fucking sure its on target then we'd have a much better record. Somehow we've managed to come up with something that's made us one of, if not the worst in Europe. Amazing really... If the philosophy had been to toss a coin rather than take the penalty we’d have a better record
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Apr 8, 2024 8:56:35 GMT
God, I remember as a young teen someone absolutely cunting one over at the Boothen End - I can't for the life of me remember who, but for some reason the name Marlon Broomes is sticking out to me. Kevin Harper opening day of the season? Pretty sure it's still in orbit.
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Post by lordb on Apr 8, 2024 10:39:50 GMT
Videgal scoring the rebound after penno saved initially when is the last time we did that? Can't remember, could be decades
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Post by noustie on Apr 8, 2024 11:04:39 GMT
I remember the peno shoot-out v Notts County in the Anglo Italian - fuck me that was bad and think we missed 3 or 4 of the 5 but Notts County were almost as bad: www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-wembley-notts-county-1110996 Stoke boss Lou Macari, who had previously taken Kearton on loan, said: “No one needs to tell me what a good penalty stopper Jason is. With him in goal, I never really fancied us with the penalties.”Nowt's changed in 30 years - my mum could be in goal for the opposition and I'd still fancy them in a shoot out.
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Post by lordb on Apr 8, 2024 11:11:22 GMT
I remember the peno shoot-out v Notts County in the Anglo Italian - fuck me that was bad and think we missed 3 or 4 of the 5 but Notts County were almost as bad: www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-wembley-notts-county-1110996 Stoke boss Lou Macari, who had previously taken Kearton on loan, said: “No one needs to tell me what a good penalty stopper Jason is. With him in goal, I never really fancied us with the penalties.”Nowt's changed in 30 years - my mum could be in goal for the opposition and I'd still fancy them in a shoot out. Our overall record on shootouts is actually fine
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 8, 2024 11:13:53 GMT
Videgal scoring the rebound after penno saved initially when is the last time we did that? Can't remember, could be decades Ask Charlie Adam
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Post by lordb on Apr 8, 2024 11:20:03 GMT
Videgal scoring the rebound after penno saved initially when is the last time we did that? Can't remember, could be decades Ask Charlie Adam That was discussed yesterday seriously when is the last time we scored on the rebound?
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Post by GrahamHyde on Apr 8, 2024 11:39:23 GMT
Kevin Harper opening day of the season? Pretty sure it's still in orbit. Then there was these two classics by Luke Chadwick. The second was particularly horrendous.
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Post by J-Roar on Apr 8, 2024 11:48:46 GMT
Pretty sure it's still in orbit. Then there was these two classics by Luke Chadwick. The second was particularly horrendous. Morgan Fox in shootout at Fleetwood was inter galactic as well.
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Post by ihaveadream on Apr 8, 2024 12:04:54 GMT
Heaven knows. Must be a psychological thing. Strong character needed. Fair play though there’s plenty would have messed up the rebound. Yes, I have seen plenty of occasions where people did not have the presence of mind to score on the rebound
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Post by Marc01 on Apr 8, 2024 15:41:29 GMT
I haven’t counted how many different pen takers but … At least we’re not sponsored by MR VEGAS: 🙂
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Post by Absolution on Apr 8, 2024 16:05:32 GMT
Videgal scoring the rebound after penno saved initially when is the last time we did that? Can't remember, could be decades I have a recollection, maybe real, maybe imaginary, of Kav doing it.
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Post by lordb on Apr 8, 2024 16:28:55 GMT
Videgal scoring the rebound after penno saved initially when is the last time we did that? Can't remember, could be decades I have a recollection, maybe real, maybe imaginary, of Kav doing it. rings a bell he missed a few one of the hardest shots in football & he used to place them...
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Post by somersetstokie on Apr 8, 2024 20:35:16 GMT
Videgal scoring the rebound after penno saved initially when is the last time we did that? Can't remember, could be decades Nor me. I can though still vividly remember Charlie Adam's painful slow motion failure to reach his penalty rebound in our relegation season.
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