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Post by Scouse on Mar 25, 2024 19:02:50 GMT
Not sure if previously posted passed away on the 19th March aged 84 known for saving the lives of 263 people in the Jakarta Incident when 4 engines flamed out on the BA 747 "City of Edinburgh" after they flew through a cloud of volcanic ash in 1982 Most famous, perhaps, for the quote of immortal British understatement: "This is your captain speaking. We have a small problem and all four engines have stopped. We are all doing our damnedest to get them working again. I trust you are not in too much distress. According to those present, many of whom had boarded in London, there was no hysteria. “Mothers moved to comfort their children, husbands reached for their wives’ hands and air hostesses worked their way down the cabin, teaming solo passengers with a companion to accompany them into the darkest of nights,” one recalled. Others wrote farewell notes: “Ma, in trouble. Plane going down. Will do best for boys. Love, Pa,” read one man’s message to his wife. Having diverted Speedbird 9 towards Jakarta, Moody decided that at 12,000ft he would turn out to sea and attempt to ditch on the water, thus avoiding a land disaster. “I think we had another ten minutes of glide left,” he said. As the aircraft drifted towards a dark and watery Indian Ocean grave, there was sudden jubilation in the cockpit: engine number four had restarted. After an interminable 90 seconds, the other three engines restarted. Even then the crisis was not over: number two failed again. Approaching Jakarta airport, Moody could barely see the runway lights and asked for them to be turned up, not realising that his windscreen was covered in ash. The landing itself was smooth. “The aeroplane seemed to kiss the earth,” he recalled. In the cabin passengers broke into applause and cheers. RIP Sir www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13224217/We-small-problem-four-engines-stopped-Hero-British-Airways-pilot-saved-hundreds-certain-death-jet-crippled-cloud-volcanic-dust-dies-aged-84.htmlhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13224217/We-small-problem-four-engines-stopped-Hero-British-Airways-pilot-saved-hundreds-certain-death-jet-crippled-cloud-volcanic-dust-dies-aged-84.html |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 25, 2024 19:07:45 GMT
Not sure if previously posted passed away on the 19th March aged 84 known for saving the lives of 263 people in the Jakarta Incident when 4 engines flamed out on the BA 747 "City of Edinburgh" after they flew through a cloud of volcanic ash in 1982 Most famous, perhaps, for the quote of immortal British understatement: "This is your captain speaking. We have a small problem and all four engines have stopped. We are all doing our damnedest to get them working again. I trust you are not in too much distress. According to those present, many of whom had boarded in London, there was no hysteria. “Mothers moved to comfort their children, husbands reached for their wives’ hands and air hostesses worked their way down the cabin, teaming solo passengers with a companion to accompany them into the darkest of nights,” one recalled. Others wrote farewell notes: “Ma, in trouble. Plane going down. Will do best for boys. Love, Pa,” read one man’s message to his wife. Having diverted Speedbird 9 towards Jakarta, Moody decided that at 12,000ft he would turn out to sea and attempt to ditch on the water, thus avoiding a land disaster. “I think we had another ten minutes of glide left,” he said. As the aircraft drifted towards a dark and watery Indian Ocean grave, there was sudden jubilation in the cockpit: engine number four had restarted. After an interminable 90 seconds, the other three engines restarted. Even then the crisis was not over: number two failed again. Approaching Jakarta airport, Moody could barely see the runway lights and asked for them to be turned up, not realising that his windscreen was covered in ash. The landing itself was smooth. “The aeroplane seemed to kiss the earth,” he recalled. In the cabin passengers broke into applause and cheers. RIP Sir www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13224217/We-small-problem-four-engines-stopped-Hero-British-Airways-pilot-saved-hundreds-certain-death-jet-crippled-cloud-volcanic-dust-dies-aged-84.htmlhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13224217/We-small-problem-four-engines-stopped-Hero-British-Airways-pilot-saved-hundreds-certain-death-jet-crippled-cloud-volcanic-dust-dies-aged-84.htmlWhat a brilliant story and one I’ve never heard of before. Bravo Captain Moody and RIP |
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 25, 2024 19:16:52 GMT
RIP, makes you proud to be British 🫡.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 25, 2024 19:45:44 GMT
A true hero RIP.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Mar 25, 2024 19:57:27 GMT
I read that the other day.
He was only allowed to fly 747s because his massive bollocks wouldn't fit on other passenger jets.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 25, 2024 20:06:05 GMT
I read that the other day. He was only allowed to fly 747s because his massive bollocks wouldn't fit on other passenger jets. 🤣🤣🤣 |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 25, 2024 20:14:36 GMT
What was he doing flying through volcanic ash in the first place?
Seems like a massive fuck up by someone along the line?
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Post by chuffedstokie on Mar 25, 2024 20:16:37 GMT
"not in too much distress".
As understatements go...
RIP Sir.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 25, 2024 20:16:50 GMT
What was he doing flying through volcanic ash in the first place? Seems like a massive fuck up by someone along the line? Typical🙄 |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 25, 2024 20:18:48 GMT
What was he doing flying through volcanic ash in the first place? Seems like a massive fuck up by someone along the line? Typical🙄 True though innit? No plane should be flying through volcanic ash. Unless it was literally right by the volcano when it erupted? |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 25, 2024 20:20:17 GMT
True though innit? No plane should be flying through volcanic ash. Unless it was literally right by the volcano when it erupted? I’ve heard Harry Kane was telling him which direction to fly in. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 25, 2024 20:22:22 GMT
True though innit? No plane should be flying through volcanic ash. Unless it was literally right by the volcano when it erupted? I’ve heard Harry Kane was telling him which direction to fly in. Reading up on it, it seems like the Indonesian authorities were just a bit shit. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 25, 2024 20:23:53 GMT
I’ve heard Harry Kane was telling him which direction to fly in. Reading up on it, it seems like the Indonesian authorities were just a bit shit. I don’t think they were quite as clued up as they are these days to be fair. A heroic effort by Captain Moody |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 25, 2024 20:27:09 GMT
Reading up on it, it seems like the Indonesian authorities were just a bit shit. I don’t think they were quite as clued up as they are these days to be fair. A heroic effort by Captain Moody They knew about it but the system they used relied on moisture and this was very dry (look at me sounding like I knew this anyway and haven’t just read wiki 🤣). They didn’t learn, the reopened the airspace and another plane lost some engines too. Wankers. Great flying from him. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 25, 2024 20:31:13 GMT
I don’t think they were quite as clued up as they are these days to be fair. A heroic effort by Captain Moody They knew about it but the system they used relied on moisture and this was very dry (look at me sounding like I knew this anyway and haven’t just read wiki 🤣). They didn’t learn, the reopened the airspace and another plane lost some engines too. Wankers. Great flying from him. Is that a hint of a compliment?😉 |
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Post by Scouse on Mar 25, 2024 20:51:59 GMT
no engines and flying blind
one for Badger here -
Captain Moody told The Times in 2010 that it was 'a bit like negotiating one's way up a badger's a**e.'
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 25, 2024 20:54:12 GMT
no engines and flying blind one for Badger here - Captain Moody told The Times in 2010 that it was 'a bit like negotiating one's way up a badger's a**e.' 🤣 Cranny will tell you how hard that can be |
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Post by desman2 on Mar 25, 2024 20:57:51 GMT
Didn't he send invites out to all the passengers inviting them to join the Jakarta Gliding Club.
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Post by lordb on Mar 25, 2024 21:26:24 GMT
This needs to be dramatised
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 25, 2024 21:27:58 GMT
This needs to be dramatised It surely has been already? If not, why not?! |
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Post by kingdong on Mar 25, 2024 21:53:15 GMT
This needs to be dramatised Here is a documentary about it... |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 25, 2024 22:32:26 GMT
This needs to be dramatised Here is a documentary about it... Loved that cheers👍🏻 |
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Post by GrahamHyde on Mar 26, 2024 23:59:10 GMT
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Post by flea79 on Mar 27, 2024 8:50:27 GMT
Marvellous story
it really is true age and experience trump all sometimes, my best pal is now 10 years deep into flying commercial for Ryanair and i still wouldnt trust him in an emergency, not least because of how these guys get trained now, few months of ground school, few months in the desert somewhere on small planes then some hours in double prop planes for the correct rating, apply for job, get job, few hours in a sim, take an empty plane up and then land it and thats it you can fly a few hundred people about, scary stuff
and dont get in a boeing ever again!
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Post by lordb on Mar 27, 2024 9:06:25 GMT
Marvellous story it really is true age and experience trump all sometimes, my best pal is now 10 years deep into flying commercial for Ryanair and i still wouldnt trust him in an emergency, not least because of how these guys get trained now, few months of ground school, few months in the desert somewhere on small planes then some hours in double prop planes for the correct rating, apply for job, get job, few hours in a sim, take an empty plane up and then land it and thats it you can fly a few hundred people about, scary stuff and dont get in a boeing ever again! That's really alarming🥵 |
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Post by RWChris on Mar 27, 2024 11:32:17 GMT
Marvellous story it really is true age and experience trump all sometimes, my best pal is now 10 years deep into flying commercial for Ryanair and i still wouldnt trust him in an emergency, not least because of how these guys get trained now, few months of ground school, few months in the desert somewhere on small planes then some hours in double prop planes for the correct rating, apply for job, get job, few hours in a sim, take an empty plane up and then land it and thats it you can fly a few hundred people about, scary stuff and dont get in a boeing ever again! It’s a lot more involved than that. Almost two years from start to getting a commercial license flying small twin-engine aircraft including months of theory groundschool alongside the flying with 14 exams to pass. You go from flying a 2-person single-engine propeller aircraft with an instructor to eventually going solo, building your hours with various check flights on the way. Then it’s into the twin-engine, which you never fly solo. Practising engine failures continuously with nobody else on board other than an instructor. Eventually you gain the hours, experience and knowledge to pass a commercial flight test before many more hours of instrument flying with no reference to visual cues. At the end of this is another flight test so that you can fly purely on instruments. From there you do a course preparing you to fly as part of a multi-crew as well as getting used to the handling differences of jet aircraft. Again, more theory and check flights. Then there’s a whole other course for the specific aircraft you’re going to fly for an airline. Again, more theoretical exams, hours and hours in the simulator before getting signed off with more check flights. Then you start with an airline. More groundschool, more simulators. Then you get to fly an aircraft for real…no passengers but have to get signed off completing 6 landings to a satisfactory standard. Then more training as you fly with actual fare-paying passengers for the first time. Around 30-ish flights with a training captain and supplementary crew before, you guessed it, a check flight. Then you’re on the line, doing the job for real for the first time but under the supervision for the first few years of a more experienced captain. You have check flights every two years and twice a year spend a few hours in a simulator practising all manner of emergencies. Eventually after several years you have the experience to become a captain. Another course, groundschool, simulators, check flights… It never ends…you are constantly under check, having to prove your competency and on top of that there’s a stringent medical once a year. Yes, any emergency is going to come as a surprise but you’re in the position to handle it after years and years of practise. Anyway I’m off to Keflavik, Iceland later where there is currently a bit of volcanic activity…will keep an eye out for any dust clouds! |
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Post by flea79 on Mar 27, 2024 11:38:06 GMT
Marvellous story it really is true age and experience trump all sometimes, my best pal is now 10 years deep into flying commercial for Ryanair and i still wouldnt trust him in an emergency, not least because of how these guys get trained now, few months of ground school, few months in the desert somewhere on small planes then some hours in double prop planes for the correct rating, apply for job, get job, few hours in a sim, take an empty plane up and then land it and thats it you can fly a few hundred people about, scary stuff and dont get in a boeing ever again! It’s a lot more involved than that. Almost two years from start to getting a commercial license flying small twin-engine aircraft including months of theory groundschool alongside the flying with 14 exams to pass. You go from flying a 2-person single-engine propeller aircraft with an instructor to eventually going solo, building your hours with various check flights on the way. Then it’s into the twin-engine, which you never fly solo. Practising engine failures continuously with nobody else on board other than an instructor. Eventually you gain the hours, experience and knowledge to pass a commercial flight test before many more hours of instrument flying with no reference to visual cues. At the end of this is another flight test so that you can fly purely on instruments. From there you do a course preparing you to fly as part of a multi-crew as well as getting used to the handling differences of jet aircraft. Again, more theory and check flights. Then there’s a whole other course for the specific aircraft you’re going to fly for an airline. Again, more theoretical exams, hours and hours in the simulator before getting signed off with more check flights. Then you start with an airline. More groundschool, more simulators. Then you get to fly an aircraft for real…no passengers but have to get signed off completing 6 landings to a satisfactory standard. Then more training as you fly with actual fare-paying passengers for the first time. Around 30-ish flights with a training captain and supplementary crew before, you guessed it, a check flight. Then you’re on the line, doing the job for real for the first time but under the supervision for the first few years of a more experienced captain. You have check flights every two years and twice a year spend a few hours in a simulator practising all manner of emergencies. Eventually after several years you have the experience to become a captain. Another course, groundschool, simulators, check flights… It never ends…you are constantly under check, having to prove your competency and on top of that there’s a stringent medical once a year. Yes, any emergency is going to come as a surprise but you’re in the position to handle it after years and years of practise. Anyway I’m off to Keflavik, Iceland later where there is currently a bit of volcanic activity…will keep an eye out for any dust clouds! ok yes maybe i simplified it a bit but your long and winding explanation is certainly not what happens maybe its what should happen but trust me it isnt happening ahh yes the medical, i mean surely any pilot who is struggling mentally and has expressed suicidal thoughts should not still be flying right? right? welcome to ryanair!!! |
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Post by questionable on Mar 27, 2024 13:06:01 GMT
What was he doing flying through volcanic ash in the first place? Seems like a massive fuck up by someone along the line? Typical🙄 You could easily replace Captain Eric Moodys name with Captain Told You So Bayern |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Mar 27, 2024 13:16:27 GMT
You could easily replace Captain Eric Moodys name with Captain Told You So Bayern Amen brother. I've been preaching the gospel of Bayern for years now. It's heartbreaking warming to encounter another believer. |
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