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Post by scfcnicholas on Mar 13, 2024 19:08:11 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 13, 2024 19:20:38 GMT
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Post by andystokey on Mar 13, 2024 19:43:55 GMT
It boils my piss the way the PL treats the remaining clubs in the pyramid. They've had 6 months to put in writing what they said in September and failed.
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Post by werrington on Mar 13, 2024 19:50:26 GMT
It boils my piss the way the PL treats the remaining clubs in the pyramid. They've had 6 months to put in writing what they said in September and failed. Foreign owners who have no affinity with English football and its pyramid, history etc etc In short they only see the £ signs and don’t give two fucks about anything other than themselves and their corporate backers and they’ll disappear as quickly as they arrived when it eventually implodes It’s potentially the beginning of the end |
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 13, 2024 19:53:03 GMT
As many journalists have said, they know the regulator is coming in so won't get way with it anyway. This isn't a refusal that will actually come to pass, it's just them playing hardball from the start. They're not going to roll over and just offer more than the regulator may make them in the future, so they're being determined now to try to show the EFL that in any negotiations they won't just give them what they want and be a pushover.
It will still happen before the regulator gets involved though, as the Prem clubs won't dare risk that. They're trying to show that they're not scared of the regulator, so the EFL will accept a smaller deal and be happy with it.
It's posturing
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Post by pushon on Mar 13, 2024 20:33:33 GMT
Probably the only people who'll make substantial money from all of this will be specialist lawyers.
I assume that regulatory decisions are not above legal challenge.
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Post by raythesailor on Mar 14, 2024 11:28:18 GMT
Just been reading elsewhere that Arsenal have already earned in excess of £75 mil from their campaign so far in the Champion Lge alone.
The rich get richer and the poor_ you know the rest.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Mar 14, 2024 11:30:12 GMT
As many journalists have said, they know the regulator is coming in so won't get way with it anyway. This isn't a refusal that will actually come to pass, it's just them playing hardball from the start. They're not going to roll over and just offer more than the regulator may make them in the future, so they're being determined now to try to show the EFL that in any negotiations they won't just give them what they want and be a pushover. It will still happen before the regulator gets involved though, as the Prem clubs won't dare risk that. They're trying to show that they're not scared of the regulator, so the EFL will accept a smaller deal and be happy with it. It's posturing This, probably 👍 |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 14, 2024 11:31:37 GMT
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Post by werrington on Mar 14, 2024 12:41:30 GMT
Just been reading elsewhere that Arsenal have already earned in excess of £75 mil from their campaign so far in the Champion Lge alone. The rich get richer and the poor_ you know the rest. And we’ve got people on here wishing English clubs well in Europe I personally hope they all get fucked |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 14, 2024 12:45:42 GMT
Just been reading elsewhere that Arsenal have already earned in excess of £75 mil from their campaign so far in the Champion Lge alone. The rich get richer and the poor_ you know the rest. They've generated that money though. The Premier League generates the bulk of the money worldwide. The way it is and always has been. |
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Post by eddyclamp on Mar 14, 2024 12:51:28 GMT
Now there`s a man who knows how to run a football club. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Mar 14, 2024 12:58:05 GMT
Now there`s a man who knows how to run a football club. He nearly managed to destroy Leeds. Genius if you ask me 😆 |
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Post by march4 on Mar 14, 2024 12:58:06 GMT
I might be a simple soul but clubs should have to deposit a sum of money of their own choosing to the regulator at the start of a season and can spend that and only that however they choose. No loans, no delayed payments. The only way of raising extra money is via player transfers which can happen for all but the final 6 weeks of the season.
That would stop owners spending money they don’t have and putting clubs in debt.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Mar 14, 2024 13:01:28 GMT
Sad fuckers will be back here soon enough the idiots. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Mar 14, 2024 13:09:18 GMT
Sad fuckers will be back here soon enough the idiots. Think that's theor logic the longer the current regime prevails the less likely it is to be quickly as the promoted sides fail.to gain traction |
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Post by rowleyscfc on Mar 14, 2024 13:11:50 GMT
Bournemouth and Luton both voting against it, Unbelievably short sighted, both will be relegated in due time
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Post by cvillestokie on Mar 14, 2024 13:28:50 GMT
It boils my piss the way the PL treats the remaining clubs in the pyramid. They've had 6 months to put in writing what they said in September and failed. Foreign owners who have no affinity with English football and its pyramid, history etc etc In short they only see the £ signs and don’t give two fucks about anything other than themselves and their corporate backers and they’ll disappear as quickly as they arrived when it eventually implodes It’s potentially the beginning of the end It’s not like their British predecessors gave a shit either. Mike Ashley wasn’t exactly blessed with good morals and I doubt he’d have been an advocate for wealth redistribution in the football pyramid. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Mar 14, 2024 14:34:34 GMT
Bournemouth and Luton both voting against it, Unbelievably short sighted, both will be relegated in due time It's a case of burn the bridges while we are on this side. Seemingly shortsighted but in their eyes it's not - the bigger the gap the better. They have earned more money this season than the entire EFL I believe which means they have an advantage on the promoted teams and if they get relegated they have an advantage on the other Championship. Neither have made more than a token effort to put money into their ground because they have no interest in attracting more fans. Financially it's not worth the effort. I find the success of these types of club more annoying than the big boys because at least Man City, Arsenal etc can turn round and say would Sky want to put the money in if it wasn't for us. Who cares which other teams make up the Premier, they are just the cannon fodder. I don't know how Burnley voted on this but last time they were in the Premier I know they voted against spreading the money down to the EFL. All these clubs act with such arrogance when they are in the Premier |
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 14, 2024 14:37:53 GMT
Bournemouth and Luton both voting against it, Unbelievably short sighted, both will be relegated in due time Its not short sighted though economically. They want to make sure that if they do get relegated they have a huge advantage over the others in the Championship. So the status quo is in their interests. They will suffer more than others if the parachute payments are reduced and other EFL teams get access to income. The top PL teams and the lower PL are voting against it for different reasons but both out of self-interest. |
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Post by scfcnicholas on Mar 14, 2024 14:48:18 GMT
Bournemouth and Luton both voting against it, Unbelievably short sighted, both will be relegated in due time Its not short sighted though economically. They want to make sure that if they do get relegated they have a huge advantage over the others in the Championship. So the status quo is in their interests. They will suffer more than others if the parachute payments are reduced and other EFL teams get access to income. The top PL teams and the lower PL are voting against it for different reasons but both out of self-interest. It is short sighted in the context of everything. Bournemouth, Luton, Burnley are typically league 1 level clubs and normality will resume to that at some point after a bit of bad stewardship and they will return to that level, give it 3,4 or maybe even 10 years. |
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Post by rowleyscfc on Mar 14, 2024 15:25:21 GMT
Bournemouth and Luton both voting against it, Unbelievably short sighted, both will be relegated in due time Its not short sighted though economically. They want to make sure that if they do get relegated they have a huge advantage over the others in the Championship. So the status quo is in their interests. They will suffer more than others if the parachute payments are reduced and other EFL teams get access to income. The top PL teams and the lower PL are voting against it for different reasons but both out of self-interest. It is literally short sighted economically, they would gain advantage in the short term, but what if they come down and don't bounce back up? they would become a victim of what the once voted for |
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 18, 2024 15:35:05 GMT
Its not short sighted though economically. They want to make sure that if they do get relegated they have a huge advantage over the others in the Championship. So the status quo is in their interests. They will suffer more than others if the parachute payments are reduced and other EFL teams get access to income. The top PL teams and the lower PL are voting against it for different reasons but both out of self-interest. It is literally short sighted economically, they would gain advantage in the short term, but what if they come down and don't bounce back up? they would become a victim of what the once voted for If they voted against parachute payments though, when they do get relegated they are voting for their own consignment to obscurity. Without the parachute payments they are going to find it difficult to compete and get promotion back anyway, plus they don't get all that dosh as a mega windfall! |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Mar 18, 2024 18:26:40 GMT
Distribution of so called solidarity money and parachute payments to EFL really does take some understanding and easy to see why Ridsdale wants urgent change in distribution of TV revenue which is currently around £10b 22-25.
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Guaranteed solidarity Payments per season 23/24
Total Parachute payments to relegated Championship clubs is around £300m per season
Solidarity payments to championship clubs excluding parachute payments is £141m
Solidarity payments to Div 1 clubs is £18m
Solidarity payments to Div 2 clubs is £12.5m
Total guaranteed solidarity payments £471.5m over 90% going to championship clubs and almost 70% going as parachute payments.
PL have offered an extra £358m over 3 years but with strings attached such as greater participation of PL under 21 teams in EFL Trophy competition and, more concerning, the abolishing of FA Cup replays to reduce fixture congestion for the mighty & righteous. FA cup replays have regularly been a lifeline to many lower league clubs,
This may not be too accurate a summary because it depends on what you read and where but you get the drift and some are predicting the abolishing of the ban on 3pm televised games which will be the death knell for many lower league and non league clubs,
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