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Post by PotterLog on Mar 5, 2024 12:33:39 GMT
This is widely contested too. Don't particularly want to get into a debate about whether it is or it isn't but just pointing out that there are numerous scholars and academics out there who regard Islamaphobia as racism. Yes and I widely contest them 😅 No, I don’t mean to spark a debate about this either and I’m not saying for a second that a lot of racism isn’t channelled through “muslimness” in the eyes of the racist. I’m just saying that in my opinion a pure bigotry towards adherents of a particular religion - especially one as widespread as Islam - can’t be racism by definition.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 5, 2024 13:29:37 GMT
There used to be a chinese takeaway at Elland Rd, not sure if still there
The ,I speak for for the people of Israel and voting rights for vegetables brigade might be triggered at the sight of chopstick on behalf of the people of Asia
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Post by moon on Mar 5, 2024 13:36:29 GMT
Why not have a chat yourself? I'm assuming the kind of person that finds this funny likely isn't very approachable to start with, why take the risk.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 5, 2024 13:51:29 GMT
Why not have a chat yourself? I'm assuming the kind of person that finds this funny likely isn't very approachable to start with, why take the risk. As long as he's amusing himself and his kid then leave them in their happy place . Sounds like it doesn't take much
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Post by moon on Mar 5, 2024 14:00:13 GMT
I'm assuming the kind of person that finds this funny likely isn't very approachable to start with, why take the risk. As long as he's amusing himself and his kid then leave them in their happy place . Sounds like it doesn't take much I'd rather the guy didn't attend at all if he thinks it's acceptable to call one of our players Chopstick.
It doesn't take much to call a player by his name.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 5, 2024 14:06:03 GMT
As long as he's amusing himself and his kid then leave them in their happy place . Sounds like it doesn't take much I'd rather the guy didn't attend at all if he thinks it's acceptable to call one of our players Chopstick.
It doesn't take much to call a player by his name.
Calling Huth the Berlin Wall used to upset me as well .
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 5, 2024 14:13:57 GMT
I'd rather the guy didn't attend at all if he thinks it's acceptable to call one of our players Chopstick. It doesn't take much to call a player by his name.
Calling Huth the Berlin Wall used to upset me as well . I think you've made your point on this mate
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 5, 2024 14:19:08 GMT
Calling Huth the Berlin Wall used to upset me as well . I think you've made your point on this mate I think Tofu and free Nepal time for others as well 👍
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Post by moon on Mar 5, 2024 14:28:47 GMT
I'd rather the guy didn't attend at all if he thinks it's acceptable to call one of our players Chopstick.
It doesn't take much to call a player by his name.
Calling Huth the Berlin Wall used to upset me as well . Not the same thing. One is a compliment, the other is derogatory.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 5, 2024 15:17:07 GMT
Calling Huth the Berlin Wall used to upset me as well . Not the same thing. One is a compliment, the other is derogatory. Am sure if a Chinese player and the Great wall China it wouldn't be The I'm offended brigade would be at it no doubt
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Post by Goonie on Mar 5, 2024 15:23:53 GMT
I don't think shouting Spork at a foreign players in the K League would be considered racist,yep. I guess is just something that amuses the fella and his kid and no one else it seems What about calling a Brit " Fish n chips" ? Don't the French call us Le Roast Beef mocking our height of culinary excellence? I'd like to be called an Oatcake as I wouldn't see it as besmirching my North Staffordshire roots in the least Re original post: Not funny but not offensive either
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Post by desman2 on Mar 5, 2024 15:55:11 GMT
What I find interesting is that someone attends a game on Saturday, but rather than approach the appropriate people to attend to his complaint, he waits for two whole days and then tells everyone on a message board who can't do anything about it.
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Post by skip on Mar 5, 2024 16:30:59 GMT
He get's called Samsung in block 38 too. Fuck me, at times I despair.
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Post by henry on Mar 5, 2024 16:51:31 GMT
Bloke in front of me kept calling him Hyundai. Took him to one side and told him it's pronounced Hunday.
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Mar 5, 2024 17:02:13 GMT
Can't decide if i'm shocked or not that there is a handful of people on here who seem to think there is nothing wrong with this..
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 5, 2024 17:08:19 GMT
Calling Huth the Berlin Wall used to upset me as well . Not the same thing. One is a compliment, the other is derogatory. How do you know?
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Post by skip on Mar 5, 2024 18:36:30 GMT
Can't decide if i'm shocked or not that there is a handful of people on here who seem to think there is nothing wrong with this.. Don't be shocked. Some people suffer from a crushingly narrow cultural bandwidth, and other people like to trot out the pejorative use of the term 'woke' if you have the temerity to call this kind of tedious bullshit out.
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Post by hancockscfc on Mar 5, 2024 22:31:12 GMT
Equally as happy to see some of our fans have brain cells as I am despaired to see the idiocy of others trying to make excuses for an idiot they don’t even know 😂
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Post by andyapotter on Mar 5, 2024 22:51:31 GMT
I'm not sure that pointing out idiocy is any any less vile than racism. Still we've come a long way in regard to what can spoil our mach day experience if not how we deal with it.
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Post by worcesterstokie on Mar 6, 2024 12:12:48 GMT
The OP raised this in a very understated and measured way. He didn’t mention being “offended”, or getting him reported or banned, or that Bae would feel marginalised or oppressed. Or even racism in fact. It was framed as a suggestion to the gentleman involved that he at least learn the bloke’s name rather than deploying a crude stereotype. Completely reasonable and I can’t fathom why anyone would react indignantly to it Thank you for this comment and completely perfectly summarised Thanks to all those who contributed. It’s about opinions as supporting Stoke for 40+ years has been. I hope that the person in question might have seen the thread and considered his options. As I wrote whilst I appreciate for some approaching him is the best idea my intention was always to try not to confront someone with a young son at the game. That’s simply my preferred approach. Regards to all and hoping we now focus on the games ahead.
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Post by phileetin on Mar 6, 2024 14:16:20 GMT
some bloke behind me at leeds last night shouted f-off you coon when summerville was substituted . no need for it .
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Post by J-Roar on Mar 6, 2024 14:17:46 GMT
some bloke behind me at leeds last night shouted f-off you coon when summerville was substituted . no need for it . Jesus wept.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 6, 2024 15:25:59 GMT
Equally as happy to see some of our fans have brain cells as I am despaired to see the idiocy of others trying to make excuses for an idiot they don’t even know 😂 Or not getting all Mary about a daft comment someone made
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