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Post by willieeetmiout on Feb 18, 2024 0:24:45 GMT
I really just don't understand what is going on.
I get injuries forced his hand somewhat, but to start Lowe up front on his own in a must win game at home and to leave him on for 70 minutes despite him looking totally out of his depth is....well it's wank isn't it.
Another clean sheet for the away side.....and Coventry's first clean sheet in 12 fucking games.
His subs were positive but all too little too late.
SS just looks completely out of his depth.
I'll go 2. Would have been 0 but thought his subs were at least a slight positive.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 18, 2024 0:26:06 GMT
-3
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Post by generationex on Feb 18, 2024 0:38:51 GMT
Plenty on here clamouring for Lowe.
Like all the players not played their stock diminishes once they start.
Youth players are always the answer until they ‘get their chance’.
Wes will he back shortly with Ennis.
SS today - 5
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Post by roylandstoke on Feb 18, 2024 0:40:53 GMT
I really just don't understand what is going on. I get injuries forced his hand somewhat, but to start Lowe up front on his own in a must win game at home and to leave him on for 70 minutes despite him looking totally out of his depth is....well it's wank isn't it. Another clean sheet for the away side.....and Coventry's first clean sheet in 12 fucking games. His subs were positive but all too little too late. SS just looks completely out of his depth. I'll go 2. Would have been 0 but thought his subs were at least a slight positive. The subs did improve the team and highlighted how big a mistake the starting selection was. I give him 3. The 16 players who got on the pitch all showed commitment and gave 100%. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 18, 2024 0:40:59 GMT
Plenty on here clamouring for Lowe. Like all the players not played their stock diminishes once they start. Youth players are always the answer until they ‘get their chance’. Wes will he back shortly with Ennis. SS today - 5 Not really. I think most wanted him out on loan. |
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Post by thepottypotter on Feb 18, 2024 0:48:20 GMT
Given that he was restricted by injuries, 3 games in a week and a paper thin squad with gaping holes
7
He found players that will fight and we deserved a point. Hoever’s mistake changed everything as we were chasing the game and they could sit back.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 18, 2024 0:49:31 GMT
Given that he was restricted by injuries, 3 games in a week and a paper thin squad with gaping holes 7 He found players that will fight and we deserved a point. Hoever’s mistake changed everything as we were chasing the game and they could sit back. We deserved fuck all. A liability being a liability isn’t bad luck. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Feb 18, 2024 0:58:41 GMT
2
Team selection was surrendering to a team in 6th place. A team who can't score playing an isolated kid up top is lunacy.
Coventry on the day weren't much better than QPR
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Post by senojbor on Feb 18, 2024 1:34:23 GMT
Picked the wrong players and formation for a home game.
If you leave Vidigal out then he's not picking his best team
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Post by seychellesstokie on Feb 18, 2024 6:02:00 GMT
Picked the wrong players and formation for a home game. If you leave Vidigal out then he's not picking his best team I agree team selection was poor. The substitutions created something like what we should have started with. However, Vidigal has been a huge disappointment lately. I'm tired of seeing him go down looking for something, then staying down when the ref rightly ignores him. That fake collision with the advertising board was pathetic. To me, he epitomises much of what is wrong with the team: no fight when up against it. |
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Post by moon on Feb 18, 2024 6:17:05 GMT
5
A bizarre starting eleven, it’s a shame as had he been able to field an unchanged team I think three points were there for the taking. I know we had a few injuries but for those fit enough for the bench I’d rather see them play the first half than to come on later and try to salvage the game. We needed Ennis and Burger to be starting. We can’t keep making so many changes every game.
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Post by coomerson on Feb 18, 2024 8:18:41 GMT
Come on guys. It’s true when I saw the line up I thought we were doomed. But we actually held our own against he side likely to get promoted. One stupid mistake again cost us 1 pt. And I suspect SS was hoping we’d be 0-0 and always planned to make those subs to go for the win.
If Pearson and baker and Laurent slot in (plus Steven’s soon) we’ve a starting 11 on that will stay in our his league. Yes we need to bloody score and yes we’ll still be near the bottom in a few weeks give the games we have, but there are so many teams way down and many have to play each other.
We criticise SS for going for wins and slag him off for playing solid first.
RM and JM out as soon as possible. Get behind SS and the team in the field.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 18, 2024 8:19:18 GMT
Come on guys. It’s true when I saw the line up I thought we were doomed. But we actually held our own against he side likely to get promoted. One stupid mistake again cost us 1 pt. And I suspect SS was hoping we’d be 0-0 and always planned to make those subs to go for the win. If Pearson and baker and Laurent slot in (plus Steven’s soon) we’ve a starting 11 on that will stay in our his league. Yes we need to bloody score and yes we’ll still be near the bottom in a few weeks give the games we have, but there are so many teams way down and many have to play each other. We criticise SS for going for wins and slag him off for playing solid first. RM and JM out as soon as possible. Get behind SS and the team in the field. He should be sacked after yesterday. |
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Post by dutchstokie on Feb 18, 2024 8:38:21 GMT
5 at an absolute push I’m afraid
Wherever possible you play your best starting XI….. yesterday was no where near that
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Post by stokie1947 on Feb 18, 2024 9:01:22 GMT
4
i really don't like the idea of so many changes every game pick what you think is the best 11 and stick with it never mind this 3 games in a week nonsense you have that many subs you can use now so no excuses PICK YOUR BEST TEAM STICK WITH IT !!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by thornestein on Feb 18, 2024 9:14:14 GMT
4 i really don't like the idea of so many changes every game pick what you think is the best 11 and stick with it never mind this 3 games in a week nonsense you have that many subs you can use now so no excuses PICK YOUR BEST TEAM STICK WITH IT !!!!!!!!!!! he’s always done it , every game at plymouth apparently |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 18, 2024 9:57:36 GMT
Sealed his fate he’s done after yesterday whatever happened behind the scenes m whatever is going on he has allowed it to destabilise him to a position of self harm , the only things to determine now
1 The order will Martin triumph and SS go first
2 Will the family sense of decency prevent 1 and change Martin first in the vain hope that will fix it
3 Will they do the unthinkable and stick with hi.m through relegation and attempt to rebuild with him as the man , that I think would be equally disasterous
They have all demonstrated rank incompetence and an inability to manage the situation. Wholesale clearing of the decks is the only option as a combination they are toxic now actually self harming the club that’s paying them .
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Post by theonlooker on Feb 18, 2024 10:04:24 GMT
Sealed his fate he’s done after yesterday whatever happened behind the scenes m whatever is going on he has allowed it to destabilise him to a position of self harm , the only things to determine now 1 The order will Martin triumph and SS go first 2 Will the family sense of decency prevent 1 and change Martin first in the vain hope that will fix it 3 Will they do the unthinkable and stick with hi.m through relegation and attempt to rebuild with him as the man , that I think would be equally disasterous They have all demonstrated rank incompetence and an inability to manage the situation. Wholesale clearing of the decks is the only option as a combination they are toxic now actually self harming the club that’s paying them . My worry is option 4. Otherwise known as the Kamara/Durban/Little axis. Persist with him until it's too late, sack him and install a temporary option until relegation and replace with a sub standard name in the summer. Let's hope it doesn't get to that and option 2 is used. |
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 18, 2024 10:10:43 GMT
Sealed his fate he’s done after yesterday whatever happened behind the scenes m whatever is going on he has allowed it to destabilise him to a position of self harm , the only things to determine now 1 The order will Martin triumph and SS go first 2 Will the family sense of decency prevent 1 and change Martin first in the vain hope that will fix it 3 Will they do the unthinkable and stick with hi.m through relegation and attempt to rebuild with him as the man , that I think would be equally disasterous They have all demonstrated rank incompetence and an inability to manage the situation. Wholesale clearing of the decks is the only option as a combination they are toxic now actually self harming the club that’s paying them . My worry is option 4. Otherwise known as the Kamara/Durban/Little axis. Persist with him until it's too late, sack him and install a temporary option until relegation and replace with a sub standard name in the summer. Let's hope it doesn't get to that and option 2 is used. Look up sub-standard in a dictionary and the definition will say Stoke City. No other manager is going to guarantee survival, the players are terrible and cannot take instruction. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 18, 2024 10:23:20 GMT
6,could have been higher but for that fuckwit Hoever.
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Post by moon on Feb 18, 2024 10:32:24 GMT
Come on guys. It’s true when I saw the line up I thought we were doomed. But we actually held our own against he side likely to get promoted. One stupid mistake again cost us 1 pt. And I suspect SS was hoping we’d be 0-0 and always planned to make those subs to go for the win. If Pearson and baker and Laurent slot in (plus Steven’s soon) we’ve a starting 11 on that will stay in our his league. Yes we need to bloody score and yes we’ll still be near the bottom in a few weeks give the games we have, but there are so many teams way down and many have to play each other. We criticise SS for going for wins and slag him off for playing solid first. RM and JM out as soon as possible. Get behind SS and the team in the field. He should be sacked after yesterday. I don’t think it would solve anything, we’d just be paying off another manager who we didn’t give enough of a chance. He needs to do enough to keep us up, he inherited a mess of a squad and it’s not just down to the transfer business last summer, it’s the constant churn of mediocre players every season and a team with no spine as multiple managers try and fail to put something competitive together. I’m not convinced Schumacher is the man to solve that as I’m sure nobody is based on what we’ve seen so far. However, at this stage it’s too late to bring in a firefighter as there is no transfer window to rectify the situation and even then, it’s only a very short term solution. If Schumacher really wants this then he needs to grind out some results until the summer and then ensure we recuit so we are capable of playing his style. I’m still backing him and I think he will just about keep us up. |
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Post by Roger Everyone on Feb 18, 2024 10:34:46 GMT
6,could have been higher but for that fuckwit Hoever. Spot on. |
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Post by st3mark on Feb 18, 2024 11:10:03 GMT
4
That many changes following a win in what was arguably the biggest week of our season was an atrocious call.
That being said I think the team did better than I expected and if it wasn't for Hoever we could have got a point. When the subs were made it showed that we could have beat them if we picked the best 11 to start off with.
I'll be getting behind him - but if he doesn't find a consistent 11 soon we are doomed.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Feb 18, 2024 12:02:47 GMT
Come on guys. It’s true when I saw the line up I thought we were doomed. But we actually held our own against he side likely to get promoted. One stupid mistake again cost us 1 pt. And I suspect SS was hoping we’d be 0-0 and always planned to make those subs to go for the win. If Pearson and baker and Laurent slot in (plus Steven’s soon) we’ve a starting 11 on that will stay in our his league. Yes we need to bloody score and yes we’ll still be near the bottom in a few weeks give the games we have, but there are so many teams way down and many have to play each other. We criticise SS for going for wins and slag him off for playing solid first. RM and JM out as soon as possible. Get behind SS and the team in the field. They're not likely to get promoted and actually weren't very good at all. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 18, 2024 12:11:29 GMT
He should be sacked after yesterday. I don’t think it would solve anything, we’d just be paying off another manager who we didn’t give enough of a chance. He needs to do enough to keep us up, he inherited a mess of a squad and it’s not just down to the transfer business last summer, it’s the constant churn of mediocre players every season and a team with no spine as multiple managers try and fail to put something competitive together. I’m not convinced Schumacher is the man to solve that as I’m sure nobody is based on what we’ve seen so far. However, at this stage it’s too late to bring in a firefighter as there is no transfer window to rectify the situation and even then, it’s only a very short term solution. If Schumacher really wants this then he needs to grind out some results until the summer and then ensure we recuit so we are capable of playing his style. I’m still backing him and I think he will just about keep us up. Oh I don’t but let’s have a manager a game or something. Revolutionise football. |
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 18, 2024 12:16:16 GMT
Plenty on here clamouring for Lowe. Like all the players not played their stock diminishes once they start. Youth players are always the answer until they ‘get their chance’. Wes will he back shortly with Ennis. SS today - 5 I think that there was about 2 people who actually wanted Lowe in the team. He’s being hung out to dry at present. He’s not strong, quick, clever or aggressive. He’s 6 foot 3 but looks like a rake. The manager played a team to draw yesterday, at home. Last time he did that (Leicester), we were mauled. SS’s rating: 2. Shocking management yesterday. |
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Post by marylandstoke on Feb 18, 2024 12:16:16 GMT
Come on guys. It’s true when I saw the line up I thought we were doomed. But we actually held our own against he side likely to get promoted. One stupid mistake again cost us 1 pt. And I suspect SS was hoping we’d be 0-0 and always planned to make those subs to go for the win. If Pearson and baker and Laurent slot in (plus Steven’s soon) we’ve a starting 11 on that will stay in our his league. Yes we need to bloody score and yes we’ll still be near the bottom in a few weeks give the games we have, but there are so many teams way down and many have to play each other. We criticise SS for going for wins and slag him off for playing solid first. RM and JM out as soon as possible. Get behind SS and the team in the field. They're not likely to get promoted and actually weren't very good at all. The fact that we are where we are and they are taking about promotion is chastening  |
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 18, 2024 12:21:47 GMT
Sealed his fate he’s done after yesterday whatever happened behind the scenes m whatever is going on he has allowed it to destabilise him to a position of self harm , the only things to determine now 1 The order will Martin triumph and SS go first 2 Will the family sense of decency prevent 1 and change Martin first in the vain hope that will fix it 3 Will they do the unthinkable and stick with hi.m through relegation and attempt to rebuild with him as the man , that I think would be equally disasterous They have all demonstrated rank incompetence and an inability to manage the situation. Wholesale clearing of the decks is the only option as a combination they are toxic now actually self harming the club that’s paying them . Yeah. We should remove everyone 12 months after signing everyone. We could definitely bring in an entirely new squad, manager, director, set of coaches etc for even less than the start of this season. Jon Coates is the man to do it as well. He’s had so much success recruiting staff. |
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Post by dirtygary69 on Feb 18, 2024 12:41:32 GMT
The fight was there, I’m just not sure what the thinking behind the team was. Turned out better than I thought, but only because I expected it to be a lot worse. They didn’t even turn up and still beat us.
Can’t be any higher than a 4 on that basis.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Feb 18, 2024 12:47:44 GMT
They're not likely to get promoted and actually weren't very good at all. The fact that we are where we are and they are taking about promotion is chastening Again it shows how poor this division is when they're currently 6th and even more so , how ridiculous completely changing your line up and tactics to play for a draw v such a side was. We'd lost the game before kick against a team that aren't actually that good |
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