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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 18, 2024 7:17:21 GMT
Why were we clapped off?
It was enraging.
Well done for showing no endeavour to win the game you gutless wankers.
The fans of club deserve this shite.
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Post by Trouserdog on Feb 18, 2024 7:22:07 GMT
Has there been any explanation whats happened to Campbell, Haks and Vidigal? Appreciate they're hardly world beaters but we're kind of desperate. They're all either a) wank b) tossers who don't try c) tossers who don't try who are also wank Fuck them. We have to start ridding ourselves of these sort of players. We were losing and not scoring when these players were in the team, so they weren't exactly helping anyway.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 18, 2024 7:24:19 GMT
Has there been any explanation whats happened to Campbell, Haks and Vidigal? Appreciate they're hardly world beaters but we're kind of desperate. They're all either a) wank b) tossers who don't try c) tossers who don't try who are also wank Fuck them. We have to start ridding ourselves of these sort of players. We were losing and not scoring when these players were in the team, so they weren't exactly helping anyway. It’s not the time or the place though is it. All of them are better than any attacker that started yesterday. Vidigal should be starting. Campbell should be on the bench. It’s pathetic management.
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Post by Trouserdog on Feb 18, 2024 7:27:43 GMT
Why were we clapped off? It was enraging. Well done for showing no endeavour to win the game you gutless wankers. The fans of club deserve this shite. The players put a shift in and it wasn't for a lack of effort that we lost. We have no quality whatsoever in front of goal, but were otherwise solid and organised for the entire match...apart from one moment when one player who is an absolute liability did something that you wouldn't expect the most naive under 10s player to do. The team don't deserve any abuse for a performance like they put in yesterday. They're not very good, but that's not their fault- all they can do is put in 100% and they did.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 18, 2024 7:31:57 GMT
Why were we clapped off? It was enraging. Well done for showing no endeavour to win the game you gutless wankers. The fans of club deserve this shite. The players put a shift in and it wasn't for a lack of effort that we lost. We have no quality whatsoever in front of goal, but were otherwise solid and organised for the entire match...apart from one moment when one player who is an absolute liability did something that you wouldn't expect the most naive under 10s player to do. The team don't deserve any abuse for a performance like they put in yesterday. They're not very good, but that's not their fault- all they can do is put in 100% and they did. We lost because of a negative set up and showing no endeavour to win. We’ve employed another coward as a manager who thinks going for a draw at home is acceptable. It’s just not one. Yesterday was horrendous. To get the applause they did reminded of the end of the relegation season. Well done one losing and not trying to win. Gutless wankers the lot of them. Not trying to win a home game is the ultimate sin for me.
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Post by Trouserdog on Feb 18, 2024 7:32:21 GMT
They're all either a) wank b) tossers who don't try c) tossers who don't try who are also wank Fuck them. We have to start ridding ourselves of these sort of players. We were losing and not scoring when these players were in the team, so they weren't exactly helping anyway. It’s not the time or the place though is it. All of them are better than any attacker that started yesterday. Vidigal should be starting. Campbell should be on the bench. It’s pathetic management. Vidigal is absolutely wank. He looks exactly what he is- a 500k punt from the Portuguese Second Division, or wherever we had him from. Your mate Campbell is the most bone idle fucker I've ever seen play for us. If they're taking the piss in training then the manager is absolutely right not to pick them. They were doing fuck all when they were in the squad, so why do you think they'll make a difference now? They won't. They're wank. I'd rather we pick a team of wank players who'll stick together and try than wank players who'll stand around with their thumbs up their arses.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 18, 2024 7:34:07 GMT
It’s not the time or the place though is it. All of them are better than any attacker that started yesterday. Vidigal should be starting. Campbell should be on the bench. It’s pathetic management. Vidigal is absolutely wank. He looks exactly what he is- a 500k punt from the Portuguese Second Division, or wherever we had him from. Your mate Campbell is the most bone idle fucker I've ever seen play for us. If they're taking the piss in training then the manager is absolutely right not to pick them. They were doing fuck all when they were in the squad, so why do you think they'll make a difference now? They won't. They're wank. I'd rather we pick a team of wank players who'll stick together and try than wank players who'll stand around with their thumbs up their arses. He’s better than what started yesterday. We didn’t try to win the game yesterday. It’s not the sort of trying we need.
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Post by Trouserdog on Feb 18, 2024 7:41:55 GMT
The players put a shift in and it wasn't for a lack of effort that we lost. We have no quality whatsoever in front of goal, but were otherwise solid and organised for the entire match...apart from one moment when one player who is an absolute liability did something that you wouldn't expect the most naive under 10s player to do. The team don't deserve any abuse for a performance like they put in yesterday. They're not very good, but that's not their fault- all they can do is put in 100% and they did. We lost because of a negative set up and showing no endeavour to win. We’ve employed another coward as a manager who thinks going for a draw at home is acceptable. It’s just not one. Yesterday was horrendous. To get the applause they did reminded of the end of the relegation season. Well done one losing and not trying to win. Gutless wankers the lot of them. Not trying to win a home game is the ultimate sin for me. He's doing what he's doing now because the defence he's got is the worst Stoke backline I've seen in the last 25 years. Trying to attack teams doesn't work either because we've also got the worst attack we've had for 25 years as well. This way we'll hopefully grind out enough points to stay up, rather than go down without a fight, which is where we were headed. His approach worked on Wednesday and would have gained us a point today had Hoever not had his latest brain fart. And 'Not trying to win' - do you really think he's sent the team out intending not to win a game? Don't be so daft. The plan is clearly to keep things as solid as we can and nick something at the other end from a set piece or however we can. We had 13 shots to their 9 yesterday.
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Post by musik on Feb 18, 2024 7:47:41 GMT
A conflict between the manager and the forwards?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 18, 2024 7:52:40 GMT
We lost because of a negative set up and showing no endeavour to win. We’ve employed another coward as a manager who thinks going for a draw at home is acceptable. It’s just not one. Yesterday was horrendous. To get the applause they did reminded of the end of the relegation season. Well done one losing and not trying to win. Gutless wankers the lot of them. Not trying to win a home game is the ultimate sin for me. He's doing what he's doing now because the defence he's got is the worst Stoke backline I've seen in the last 25 years. Trying to attack teams doesn't work either because we've also got the worst attack we've had for 25 years as well. This way we'll hopefully grind out enough points to stay up, rather than go down without a fight, which is where we were headed. His approach worked on Wednesday and would have gained us a point today had Hoever not had his latest brain fart. And 'Not trying to win' - do you really think he's sent the team out intending not to win a game? Don't be so daft. The plan is clearly to keep things as solid as we can and nick something at the other end from a set piece or however we can. We had 13 shots to their 9 yesterday. He’s doing what he’s doing because like the ones before him he has shat his pants. It’s like Groundhog Day. You have to try and win at home and to not set up to do so should bring hell on them. Yesterday was awful. Yes he clearly sent them out for the draw. It was fucking awful. As I’ve said. Another coward.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 18, 2024 8:09:45 GMT
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Post by stokie63 on Feb 18, 2024 8:11:15 GMT
What manager leaves 5 of his better players on the bench its as if he's been told to play like that do you think klopp would have done that, something is drastically wrong at the club and a few rumours are going around don't no how true they are but the club is in freefall and I can't see us getting out of relegation.
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Post by laneendstokie on Feb 18, 2024 8:19:51 GMT
They blocked a lot of our shots to be fair but not enough composure in the final third It’s not lack of composure it’s our slow build up that’s the problem, by the time we’ve done our senseless passing around at the back routine and get into the final third the opposition has a fully assembled defence which repels us with ease.
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Post by Trouserdog on Feb 18, 2024 8:23:04 GMT
He's doing what he's doing now because the defence he's got is the worst Stoke backline I've seen in the last 25 years. Trying to attack teams doesn't work either because we've also got the worst attack we've had for 25 years as well. This way we'll hopefully grind out enough points to stay up, rather than go down without a fight, which is where we were headed. His approach worked on Wednesday and would have gained us a point today had Hoever not had his latest brain fart. And 'Not trying to win' - do you really think he's sent the team out intending not to win a game? Don't be so daft. The plan is clearly to keep things as solid as we can and nick something at the other end from a set piece or however we can. We had 13 shots to their 9 yesterday. He’s doing what he’s doing because like the ones before him he has shat his pants. It’s like Groundhog Day. You have to try and win at home and to not set up to do so should bring hell on them. Yesterday was awful. Yes he clearly sent them out for the draw. It was fucking awful. As I’ve said. Another coward. Yeah, I can just imagine his team talk: "if you get a chance to shoot lads, don't, because I don't want to win this, I want a draw." Grow up FFS.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 18, 2024 8:25:13 GMT
He’s doing what he’s doing because like the ones before him he has shat his pants. It’s like Groundhog Day. You have to try and win at home and to not set up to do so should bring hell on them. Yesterday was awful. Yes he clearly sent them out for the draw. It was fucking awful. As I’ve said. Another coward. Yeah, I can just imagine his team talk: "if you get a chance to shoot lads, don't, because I don't want to win this, I want a draw." Grow up FFS. We clearly set up for a draw and didn’t try to win the game. Like Neil would do. It was exactly like a Neil performance but not as well drilled. You cannot set up like that at home. If you think we tried to win that game you are absolutely deluded.
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Post by Trouserdog on Feb 18, 2024 8:29:05 GMT
Yeah, I can just imagine his team talk: "if you get a chance to shoot lads, don't, because I don't want to win this, I want a draw." Grow up FFS. We clearly set up for a draw and didn’t try to win the game. Like Neil would do. It was exactly like a Neil performance but not as well drilled. You cannot set up like that at home. If you think we tried to win that game you are absolutely deluded. Of course we tried to win. Just not in the way that you would have personally gone about doing it.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 18, 2024 8:35:50 GMT
We clearly set up for a draw and didn’t try to win the game. Like Neil would do. It was exactly like a Neil performance but not as well drilled. You cannot set up like that at home. If you think we tried to win that game you are absolutely deluded. Of course we tried to win. Just not in the way that you would have personally gone about doing it. No we didn’t. You don’t try to win a game by only starting one genuine attacker.
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 18, 2024 8:40:19 GMT
Picking Lowe as the loan striker with no support is criminal! I must admit I'm already starting to ask questions about our new manager. Who else can he pick from the squad that gives us a goal threat? There's no one Ennis from the start or even Wes because he can at least hold the ball up. Lowe has shown before he isn't ready yet and needs a loan to a lower league team to progress.
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Post by wilcopotter on Feb 18, 2024 8:46:25 GMT
We lost because of a negative set up and showing no endeavour to win. We’ve employed another coward as a manager who thinks going for a draw at home is acceptable. It’s just not one. Yesterday was horrendous. To get the applause they did reminded of the end of the relegation season. Well done one losing and not trying to win. Gutless wankers the lot of them. Not trying to win a home game is the ultimate sin for me. He's doing what he's doing now because the defence he's got is the worst Stoke backline I've seen in the last 25 years. Trying to attack teams doesn't work either because we've also got the worst attack we've had for 25 years as well. This way we'll hopefully grind out enough points to stay up, rather than go down without a fight, which is where we were headed. His approach worked on Wednesday and would have gained us a point today had Hoever not had his latest brain fart. And 'Not trying to win' - do you really think he's sent the team out intending not to win a game? Don't be so daft. The plan is clearly to keep things as solid as we can and nick something at the other end from a set piece or however we can. We had 13 shots to their 9 yesterday. Daft is a kind word for him..
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 18, 2024 8:48:53 GMT
He's doing what he's doing now because the defence he's got is the worst Stoke backline I've seen in the last 25 years. Trying to attack teams doesn't work either because we've also got the worst attack we've had for 25 years as well. This way we'll hopefully grind out enough points to stay up, rather than go down without a fight, which is where we were headed. His approach worked on Wednesday and would have gained us a point today had Hoever not had his latest brain fart. And 'Not trying to win' - do you really think he's sent the team out intending not to win a game? Don't be so daft. The plan is clearly to keep things as solid as we can and nick something at the other end from a set piece or however we can. We had 13 shots to their 9 yesterday. Daft is a kind word for him.. How are you trying to win a game by starting one genuine attacker? And that attacker is a kid who should be out on loan. None of you (including the manager) are serious.
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Post by stokie63 on Feb 18, 2024 8:56:19 GMT
Daft is a kind word for him.. How are you trying to win a game by starting one genuine attacker? And that attacker is a kid who should be out on loan. None of you (including the manager) are serious. Don't usually agree with alot of what Bayer ses but I do on this subject how can we try win a game with your best 5 players not in the starting 11 what serious threat were we going to have? I mean laurent on the left wing come on he wanted more wingers in January so we signed 1 to be left on the bench after 1 start mind-boggling for me, when the team was out yesterday there can't be many who predicted that.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 18, 2024 8:58:08 GMT
How are you trying to win a game by starting one genuine attacker? And that attacker is a kid who should be out on loan. None of you (including the manager) are serious. Don't usually agree with alot of what Bayer ses but I do on this subject how can we try win a game with your best 5 players not in the starting 11 what serious threat were we going to have? I mean laurent on the left wing come on he wanted more wingers in January so we signed 1 to be left on the bench after 1 start mind-boggling for me, when the team was out yesterday there can't be many who predicted that. And that winger can’t get in the team with 4 other attackers sent to the naughty step. It’s mind boggling.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Feb 18, 2024 9:04:20 GMT
Is it four goals in our last 11 home games?
One of which was a penalty, one an own goal and one from a set play?
So one goal from open play in 11 games?
Our complete lack of creativity and goals in the final third is what is going to get us relegated.
Yesterday the players worked their arses off and we were relatively well organised defensively. However, the fact that we are applauding that tells you how far our standards have dropped (it should be the bare minimum expected).
I really cannot see where the goals are coming from or who is going to fire us out of this mess.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 18, 2024 9:11:32 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 18, 2024 9:12:32 GMT
Is it four goals in our last 11 home games? One of which was a penalty, one an own goal and one from a set play? So one goal from open play in 11 games? Our complete lack of creativity and goals in the final third is what is going to get us relegated. Yesterday the players worked their arses off and we were relatively well organised defensively. However, the fact that we are applauding that tells you how far our standards have dropped (it should be the bare minimum expected). I really cannot see where the goals are coming from or who is going to fire us out of this mess. A Baker long range effort appears our only hope of a goal in open play, one was in all the way yesterday until the centre back just got a slight touch on it…..
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Post by march4 on Feb 18, 2024 9:17:31 GMT
Don't usually agree with alot of what Bayer ses but I do on this subject how can we try win a game with your best 5 players not in the starting 11 what serious threat were we going to have? I mean laurent on the left wing come on he wanted more wingers in January so we signed 1 to be left on the bench after 1 start mind-boggling for me, when the team was out yesterday there can't be many who predicted that. And that winger can’t get in the team with 4 other attackers sent to the naughty step. It’s mind boggling. He looked completely out of his depth when he came on. Hope he settles quickly.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 18, 2024 9:18:58 GMT
And that winger can’t get in the team with 4 other attackers sent to the naughty step. It’s mind boggling. He looked completely out of his depth when he came on. Hope he settles quickly. I thought the complete opposite. He took his man on, he looked like he had a bit of pace and wasn’t scared of actually attacking.
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Post by BristolMick on Feb 18, 2024 9:19:25 GMT
Why were we clapped off? It was enraging. Well done for showing no endeavour to win the game you gutless wankers. The fans of club deserve this shite. The players put a shift in and it wasn't for a lack of effort that we lost. We have no quality whatsoever in front of goal, but were otherwise solid and organised for the entire match...apart from one moment when one player who is an absolute liability did something that you wouldn't expect the most naive under 10s player to do. The team don't deserve any abuse for a performance like they put in yesterday. They're not very good, but that's not their fault- all they can do is put in 100% and they did. If I lived close enough to the ground to know the team selection before I had to leave home, I absolutely would not go if Hoever was picked.. BM
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Post by ravey123 on Feb 18, 2024 9:30:30 GMT
Why were we clapped off? It was enraging. Well done for showing no endeavour to win the game you gutless wankers. The fans of club deserve this shite. The players put a shift in and it wasn't for a lack of effort that we lost. We have no quality whatsoever in front of goal, but were otherwise solid and organised for the entire match...apart from one moment when one player who is an absolute liability did something that you wouldn't expect the most naive under 10s player to do. The team don't deserve any abuse for a performance like they put in yesterday. They're not very good, but that's not their fault- all they can do is put in 100% and they did. Correct - I agree, I clapped too because I could see the effort. However, yesterday I also came to accept the fact that we are being relegated this season
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Post by peterthornesboots on Feb 18, 2024 9:32:42 GMT
Is it four goals in our last 11 home games? One of which was a penalty, one an own goal and one from a set play? So one goal from open play in 11 games? Our complete lack of creativity and goals in the final third is what is going to get us relegated. Yesterday the players worked their arses off and we were relatively well organised defensively. However, the fact that we are applauding that tells you how far our standards have dropped (it should be the bare minimum expected). I really cannot see where the goals are coming from or who is going to fire us out of this mess. A Baker long range effort appears our only hope of a goal in open play, one was in all the way yesterday until the centre back just got a slight touch on it….. It is hard to disagree. I think that since Schumacher has been appointed Jordan Thompson is our joint top goal scorer (along with Baker). That tells its own story. The problem is, who is actually going to score? Even when everyone is fit and available? Ennis has never been prolific. Jun-Ho is exciting to watch but has litte end product. So does that mean we are pinning our hopes on Manhoeff - a 22 year old who is experiencing a new club and a new country for the first time?
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