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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 17, 2024 17:35:36 GMT
Imagine sacking a manager now. Not one other manager would be interested. It would cost us a fortune. The dressing room would be even more confused. It would be a nail in the coffin with 15 games to go. Sack SS now and Stoke deserve relegation.
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Post by thisisouryear on Feb 17, 2024 17:35:48 GMT
To leave Jun Ho, Junior and Ennis on the Bench makes me wonder whether this guy knows what he is doing. Crazy decision. Looked far better when they came on. Time to go? No, if we go down then, end of season. The fact we were better when they came on was probably the point. Thy weren't fit enough to do the full 90 so we played tight with the view to go and win the game later on where they could have more joy against tiring players. It didn't work this time but it was a perfectly acceptable strategy and might have worked if it weren't for Hoever's cock up.
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Post by figo85 on Feb 17, 2024 17:36:03 GMT
How’s it a pointless question? You call for the managers head yet can’t offer a modicum of knowledge to outline who to replace him with ? Ralph Hassenhuthl Been out of work 18 months ? Is that his own choice ?
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 17, 2024 17:36:25 GMT
After a promising start I’m beginning to lose confidence in SS. He doesn’t appear to be displaying the tactics of someone who goes for “front foot football.” The last 2 games have been just as bad as anything Neil dished out and his tactics / selections are equally as baffling. We could have been playing all evening and wouldn’t have scored. Only when the 3 subs came on did we look more likely but by then they’d shut up shop. He’s panicking and looks out of his depth. He needs to pick his best team and barring injuries stick with them or else we’ll be playing like strangers for the rest of the season knocking missplaced passes all over the place. How many changes did they make from Wednesday? I’ll bet it wasn’t many and I’ll bet Robins didn’t make the master stroke of resting there 3 best players. I like SS as a person but he’s out of his depth and the dropping of difficult players isn’t working well. I don’t like Mmaee as he seems a bad egg but I’m pretty sure he’d do better than Lowe up front. It’s all good having morals but the time to bin him is at the end of the season. Best team won today. Oh and the ref was awful. He went front foot football last few games and got dicked. He’s trying grind results out and give protection to shocking defenders. In his first 6 games we played well and were undefeated. He lost his bottle after Leicester and Blackburn. I have no doubt that if we’d gone front foot v QPR we’d have still beaten them they were that poor. If you’re happy losing 1-0 for the rest of the season then his current tactics will see us into div 1. At least if we go for it we might ride our luck and get a few breaks and stay up. Today we were poor and didn’t test there keeper once.
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 17, 2024 17:36:38 GMT
Todays loss is absolutely on him, his starting 11 was ridiculous I think he’ll take us down. Today’s Loss is on Hoever. And the manager. Hoever was simply the instrument of today’s destruction. Our capitulation was inevitable.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2024 17:37:00 GMT
Todays loss is absolutely on him, his starting 11 was ridiculous I think he’ll take us down. Today’s Loss is on Hoever. Who continues to pick him?
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Post by ethers26 on Feb 17, 2024 17:37:42 GMT
Hounded the manager out that dicked these 4-0 at their place I don't get what people expect Almost like there was nine months of utter shit between us winning that game and Neil getting the sack or something. Better now is it?
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 17, 2024 17:38:41 GMT
Imagine sacking a manager now. Not one other manager would be interested. It would cost us a fortune. The dressing room would be even more confused. It would be a nail in the coffin with 15 games to go. Sack SS now and Stoke deserve relegation. Keep Mad Nath mark 2 and we are nailed on to go down He simply hasn’t got the experience to get us out of this mess. Crazy team selections It’s pretty depressing as I was all aboard the SS train but he talks a good game but doesn’t deliver. Shocking over the last 7/8 games Time to go
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Post by werrington on Feb 17, 2024 17:38:49 GMT
I fuckin despise Stoke fans at times
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Post by citynickscfc on Feb 17, 2024 17:39:46 GMT
Hounded the manager out that dicked these 4-0 at their place I don't get what people expect Almost like there was nine months of utter shit between us winning that game and Neil getting the sack or something. For what it is worth (probably nothing) I think that we were better with Niel than Schuey 🤷♂️. The promise of attacking football is great, but this team can't do it. Niel figured that out, and now so has Shuey. If we keep playing attacking non sensical football we will continue to loose games. The problem now is Shuey has to adapt and he's probably never done that before. We are right up shit creek
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 17, 2024 17:40:06 GMT
Been out of work 18 months ? Is that his own choice ? Have you his number and I’ll try and call him… We need an experienced credible manager not someone who spouts shite.
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Post by vidigoals on Feb 17, 2024 17:40:39 GMT
“I’m excited by his appointment. Be good to get behind him”
You’ve given him 2 months?
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Post by glpotter on Feb 17, 2024 17:40:59 GMT
I fuckin despise Stoke fans at times This is ok then?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2024 17:41:17 GMT
I fuckin despise Stoke fans at times I’m sure many would despise you too, swings and roundabouts and all that.
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Post by stiggerstackle on Feb 17, 2024 17:41:34 GMT
To leave Jun Ho, Junior and Ennis on the Bench makes me wonder whether this guy knows what he is doing. Crazy decision. Looked far better when they came on. Time to go? No, if we go down then, end of season. The fact we were better when they came on was probably the point. Thy weren't fit enough to do the full 90 so we played tight with the view to go and win the game later on where they could have more joy against tiring players. It didn't work this time but it was a perfectly acceptable strategy and might have worked if it weren't for Hoever's cock up. Completely agree with you that was the plan. However, these are professional athletes, if they aren’t fit enough then they shouldn’t be on the bench. If he had to attempt that strategy then he had to switch it so we played our best 11 first half, fast start, snatch a goal and then sub 2nd half to defend. The way he approached it was way too risky - chasing a game when we can’t score.
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Post by glpotter on Feb 17, 2024 17:41:36 GMT
“I’m excited by his appointment. Be good to get behind him” You’ve given him 2 months? Proof is in the results and his squad selection, man management is piss poor
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 17, 2024 17:42:06 GMT
Have I watched a different game today? I came out of there thinking it’s one of the most one sided games you’ll see, we dominated possession, yet the stats say different We had 30% to 60% possession at end of first half, when he made changes we jumped to 48% to 52% but they closed shop and we had players who should have started. Especially Junho. Possession percentages mean nothing when losing. Championship sides always shut up shop once they’ve scored knowing that their opposition are shite.
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Post by pavel on Feb 17, 2024 17:42:44 GMT
Who are one of the form team in the division, so yes a hard earned draw wouldn’t be to shabby. We were the better team and apart from Hoever’s schoolboy error they created nothing. This is horse shit. Every time I hear 'we were the better team' when we weren't. Your idea of being the better team ignores game management. They were 1-0 and their keeper made what, 0 saves? Fuck off the better team. We were shit. We flattered to deceive. We had the chance to make the odd chance and fucked it. Meanwhile they didn't really get out of 3rd gear and we're comfortable. We nearly gave them an early lead then gave them that second chance. You can't do that at ANY level. We are fucking shit and that selection was woeful. Mate you need to calm down and read what I said, they created fick all and are one of, if not the form team of the division at the moment with Leeds, they weren’t comfortable at all and if they didn’t get out of third gear it was down to us. A stupid schoolboy error lost us the game and they never looked like scoring apart from when we twice presented them a chance on a platter.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2024 17:43:32 GMT
Let’s be honest leaving your 3 key players on the bench while in a relegation battle isn’t the wisest of moves.
If they’re not fit enough then bring them off, don’t start on a negative from the start.
Thats all on the manager including the persistent use of Hoever and Cundle, two players who have shown nothing and one actively regressing us.
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Post by pistol on Feb 17, 2024 17:44:38 GMT
It was a lazy appointment in the first place let’s be honest. They didn’t exactly scour the earth looking for a new manager. Bet someone said….Ive got a good idea, how about the manager of that team that just beat us and they all gave each other a pat on the back and fucked off to Yates Wine Lodge. What was his win record at Plymouth this season? It’s not taken him long to turn from chirpy scouser into stressed out scouser. He’ll look like Philip Schofield before long. This club really is a basket case serving up the same shit for the last six years
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Post by wakeypotter on Feb 17, 2024 17:44:52 GMT
I fuckin despise Stoke fans at times Come on though mate can you blame them with the shit we have had to put up with I despise stoke city sometimes
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Post by citynickscfc on Feb 17, 2024 17:46:44 GMT
“I’m excited by his appointment. Be good to get behind him” You’ve given him 2 months? Can you please change your name to 'vidinotmanygoals'? Thanks. I think you give people a chance until you call their bluff. We attacked teams then started to lose 4-0 odd. Then he shat it instead of finding a way to fix it, so instead we now loose 2-0 and 1-0. 3 wins in what 13? 23% win ratio. Can you see him turning this around? I really hope he can. Even if he does (not dies, tho he could do of stress let's be honest) the club's is in such a fucking state
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 17, 2024 17:50:08 GMT
I'm in full agreement with the OP. I want to like Schumacher but its becoming increasingly obvious he's not good enough, and the less said the better about the two fuckwits in charge of recruitment. He's taken over a poorly put together squad, I'm not sure how you can tell if he's good enough or not. He gave Cov too much respect in the first half but it's hardly a stackable offence.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 17, 2024 17:52:10 GMT
No shortage of effort - and obvious that all the eye-catching changes were for fitness reasons, with Tchamadeu, Bae, Burger and Ennis protected, confirmed in his post-match interview..
Were we poor? Yes.
Did we know we were poor before the kick-off? Yes,
He's been in charge for 7 weeks.
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Post by wakeypotter on Feb 17, 2024 17:52:53 GMT
I'm in full agreement with the OP. I want to like Schumacher but its becoming increasingly obvious he's not good enough, and the less said the better about the two fuckwits in charge of recruitment. He's taken over a poorly put together squad, I'm not sure how you can tell if he's good enough or not. He gave Cov too much respect in the first half but it's hardly a stackable offence. 5 defeats out of 6 might answer that
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 17, 2024 17:53:03 GMT
He went front foot football last few games and got dicked. He’s trying grind results out and give protection to shocking defenders. We’ve lost today. And what I’ve watched was disgraceful. May as well go for it. Will be more like the last 30 mins where we at least looked somewhat threatening. Would it, or would we get taken apart until the other team gets a goal like we have been quite recently. I thought we were the better team today but a decent amount of our second half would have been helped by them sitting back and not taking risks.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 17, 2024 17:54:17 GMT
To leave Jun Ho, Junior and Ennis on the Bench makes me wonder whether this guy knows what he is doing. Crazy decision. Looked far better when they came on. Time to go? No, if we go down then, end of season. Where they fit enough to start?
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Post by uknorse on Feb 17, 2024 17:54:21 GMT
Schumacher Martin Dublin out of their depth How can he be out of his depth.... the team he left to come here are above us in the league ya tube
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 17, 2024 17:54:50 GMT
He's taken over a poorly put together squad, I'm not sure how you can tell if he's good enough or not. He gave Cov too much respect in the first half but it's hardly a stackable offence. 5 defeats out of 6 might answer that With the same shit squad, maybe it's not down to him.
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Post by stokemark on Feb 17, 2024 17:55:41 GMT
Hounded the manager out that dicked these 4-0 at their place I don't get what people expect Horseshit
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