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Post by lancer on Feb 14, 2024 22:28:03 GMT
Another minute would have constituted 20% of the second half. Where the hell was the 20% time of the game from?Perhaps if the refs stopped blowing up for petty tackles the game would be played in 90 minutes or close to it.
Well played lads, just what we needed. Doesn't matter how, just the win will do.
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Post by nickhfc on Feb 15, 2024 8:04:57 GMT
Fairly standard at the start of the season but it seemed the experiment had been quietly dropped.
What gets me is QPR were doing all the timewasting in the first half. But then have the benefit of more time in the second to get an equaliser. Would love to know the time keeper’s rationale.
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Post by onlyonesirstan on Feb 15, 2024 8:14:49 GMT
As said on the match thread, 10 substitutions, so that's 5 minutes straight away. That leaves 3 minutes for time wasting and what ever else.
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Post by chuckrocky on Feb 15, 2024 8:20:48 GMT
As said on the match thread, 10 substitutions, so that's 5 minutes straight away. That leaves 3 minutes for time wasting and what ever else. There wasn’t 10 substitution breaks though. |
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Post by nott1 on Feb 15, 2024 8:24:33 GMT
The ref was desperate for QPR to score!
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Post by Northy on Feb 15, 2024 8:24:42 GMT
As said on the match thread, 10 substitutions, so that's 5 minutes straight away. That leaves 3 minutes for time wasting and what ever else. multiple subs at one time or another though will reduce that. |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 15, 2024 8:28:25 GMT
As said on the match thread, 10 substitutions, so that's 5 minutes straight away. That leaves 3 minutes for time wasting and what ever else. multiple subs at one time or another though will reduce that. To be fair there were a couple of lengthy stoppages too. One to Burger and one to Junior. I’m sure there’s inconsistencies though. I would have said 6 mins was more realistic when I compare it to some games we’ve been down this season. |
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Post by kidcrewbob on Feb 15, 2024 8:31:03 GMT
As said on the match thread, 10 substitutions, so that's 5 minutes straight away. That leaves 3 minutes for time wasting and what ever else. There wasn’t 10 substitution breaks though. how many were there - seemed a lot to me - at least 8 surely? - so thats 4 mins minimum |
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Post by shrewspotter on Feb 15, 2024 8:40:29 GMT
There wasn’t 10 substitution breaks though. how many were there - seemed a lot to me - at least 8 surely? - so thats 4 mins minimum There were 10 subs but you are only allowed 3 lots to stop time wasting, so you must use multiple subs, in this case we used 2 and they used 3, so 5 x 30 seconds is 2.30 and the other 5.30 i am guessing was made up of an injury to Junior, 1 to Burger but I am not sure what else. I did say to the chap next to me I thought it would be 5 or maybe 6 so surpised to see 8 but not that shocked to be honest |
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Post by Roy Cropper on Feb 15, 2024 8:41:26 GMT
It's fine if they're consistent. They've shown week in week out that they just make it up on the spot though. There's no science behind it just a wild guess.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Feb 15, 2024 8:41:47 GMT
how many were there - seemed a lot to me - at least 8 surely? - so thats 4 mins minimum There were 10 subs but you are only allowed 3 lots to stop time wasting, so you must use multiple subs, in this case we used 2 and they used 3, so 5 x 30 seconds is 2.30 and the other 5.30 i am guessing was made up of an injury to Junior, 1 to Burger but I am not sure what else. I did say to the chap next to me I thought it would be 5 or maybe 6 so surpised to see 8 but not that shocked to be honest Yep - I justlooked it up there were deffo 10 !!! www.footballcritic.com/championship-stoke-city-fc-queens-park-rangers-fc/match-stats/3013990Great detail there as well fellah - I didn't know the multiple rules !! |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 15, 2024 8:43:08 GMT
multiple subs at one time or another though will reduce that. To be fair there were a couple of lengthy stoppages too. One to Burger and one to Junior. I’m sure there’s inconsistencies though. I would have said 6 mins was more realistic when I compare it to some games we’ve been down this season. The ref stopped the game to allow a player to tie his shoe laces. A couple of players got " touched" in the face, clearly not a head injury. And I think one of their players was sitting down , having a rest, possibly been winded, the ref went over and stopped play for at least 20/ 30 seconds to make sure he was ok. We've gone too far in this. |
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Post by xchpotter on Feb 15, 2024 8:45:41 GMT
Something has to be done to sort out the pace of the game.
I really think we should play on around injuries like in rugby, unless is obviously serious, make a re start after a goal happen within 30 seconds of the goal going in... if the other team are still celebrating, tough if the opposition walk the ball into an empty net and I presume the ref has a stop watch... In this day and age can this not be live streamed onto a big screen for all to see?
This would cut down on the sometimes ludicrous added time that comes about.
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Post by LphPotter on Feb 15, 2024 8:46:49 GMT
Something has to be done to sort out the pace of the game. I really think we should play on around injuries like in rugby, unless is obviously serious, make a re start after a goal happen within 30 seconds of the goal going in... if the other team are still celebrating, tough if the opposition walk the ball into an empty net and I presume the ref has a stop watch... In this day and age can this not be live streamed onto a big screen for all to see? This would cut down on the sometimes ludicrous added time that comes about. It would help if the ref didn’t stop play every time one of their players wanted to tie his laces. |
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Post by franklin on Feb 15, 2024 8:47:15 GMT
Loads of time wasting there was 1min wasted with them taking a fucking corner towards the end of the first half.
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Post by LphPotter on Feb 15, 2024 8:51:40 GMT
To be fair there were a couple of lengthy stoppages too. One to Burger and one to Junior. I’m sure there’s inconsistencies though. I would have said 6 mins was more realistic when I compare it to some games we’ve been down this season. The ref stopped the game to allow a player to tie his shoe laces. A couple of players got " touched" in the face, clearly not a head injury. And I think one of their players was sitting down , having a rest, possibly been winded, the ref went over and stopped play for at least 20/ 30 seconds to make sure he was ok. We've gone too far in this. Most of that was in the first half and he only added 1 minute on, if he managed to find 8 minutes for the second half the first had to be at least 4/5. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 15, 2024 8:56:31 GMT
If we were losing 0-1,you could bet your bottom doller there wouldn't have been 8 mins.added on
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 15, 2024 9:04:43 GMT
There should have been about 5 in the first half but was just 1.
It was strange.
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Post by Northy on Feb 15, 2024 9:11:22 GMT
Loads of time wasting there was 1min wasted with them taking a fucking corner towards the end of the first half. But that gets added on at the end of the first half, or should do. |
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Post by franklin on Feb 15, 2024 9:18:20 GMT
Loads of time wasting there was 1min wasted with them taking a fucking corner towards the end of the first half. But that gets added on at the end of the first half, or should do. I thought it was added to the end of the game not first half specifically. |
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Post by Northy on Feb 15, 2024 9:20:09 GMT
But that gets added on at the end of the first half, or should do. I thought it was added to the end of the game not first half specifically. No, that's why they have added time at the end of the first half. |
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Post by franklin on Feb 15, 2024 9:21:41 GMT
I thought it was added to the end of the game not first half specifically. No, that's why they have added time at the end of the first half. You are right each half just checked so I can't understand why there was none very little first half. |
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Post by Bera’s Beano on Feb 15, 2024 9:31:58 GMT
It's fine if they're consistent. They've shown week in week out that they just make it up on the spot though. There's no science behind it just a wild guess. The inconsistency isn't even on a per game basis. First half QPR were time wasting constantly, the first corner they wasted 30 seconds at least and then the lad tying his shoe laces for an age. Ref only puts up 2 minutes. Second half runs constantly apart from 5 or 6 sub breaks, and he finds 8 minutes. I don't believe there is any conspiracy against Stoke but when we weren't winning he put 1 minutes up, and when we were he found 8. Referee standards are at an all time low and we just seem to be seeing it get worse quickly as time goes on. |
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Post by franklin on Feb 15, 2024 9:38:16 GMT
It's fine if they're consistent. They've shown week in week out that they just make it up on the spot though. There's no science behind it just a wild guess. The inconsistency isn't even on a per game basis. First half QPR were time wasting constantly, the first corner they wasted 30 seconds at least and then the lad tying his shoe laces for an age. Ref only puts up 2 minutes. Second half runs constantly apart from 5 or 6 sub breaks, and he finds 8 minutes. I don't believe there is any conspiracy against Stoke but when we weren't winning he put 1 minutes up, and when we were he found 8. Referee standards are at an all time low and we just seem to be seeing it get worse quickly as time goes on. That's what I thought loads of first half timewasting and very little added time I think the only rational answer is they add it to the second half subconsciously to make it up to allow a full halftime break albeit it should be added first half. |
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Post by idle on Feb 15, 2024 10:03:30 GMT
how many were there - seemed a lot to me - at least 8 surely? - so thats 4 mins minimum There were 10 subs but you are only allowed 3 lots to stop time wasting, so you must use multiple subs, in this case we used 2 and they used 3, so 5 x 30 seconds is 2.30 and the other 5.30 i am guessing was made up of an injury to Junior, 1 to Burger but I am not sure what else. I did say to the chap next to me I thought it would be 5 or maybe 6 so surpised to see 8 but not that shocked to be honest Each sub break was way more than 30 seconds though. 8 minutes felt long as a fan, but it was probably not too off. |
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Post by thanksjon on Feb 15, 2024 10:07:34 GMT
Eight minutes but felt like twenty eight.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 15, 2024 10:09:20 GMT
When I used to play the in possession team had the option of taking a quick one , when given a free kick. It now seems ( inconsistently) to have crept in the game that , SOMETIMES, the players have to wait for the ref's whistle.....in other words....wait until the defending team are ready!
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Post by nottsover60 on Feb 15, 2024 10:11:02 GMT
If we were losing 0-1,you could bet your bottom doller there wouldn't have been 8 mins.added on Exactly. Birmingham wasted so much time it was untrue but we got about 4 minutes added on. At an injury break the ref in that game waited for them to finish their mini team talk to restart the game. Players shouldn't be allowed to go en masses to the bench during stoppages and the ref should be able to restart the game as soon as the injury has been dealt with, 22 players on the pitch or not. |
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Post by idle on Feb 15, 2024 10:26:13 GMT
When I used to play the in possession team had the option of taking a quick one , when given a free kick. It now seems ( inconsistently) to have crept in the game that , SOMETIMES, the players have to wait for the ref's whistle.....in other words....wait until the defending team are ready! Yeah, instead of just giving a card to any player hindering a quick FK. In practice, you can often take a quick FK, but when 5-10 seconds have gone you have to wait because the defenders wall needs to be moved back. |
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Feb 15, 2024 10:34:32 GMT
I just don’t get how it was 8 minutes?
According to the Football Association, time is added on for all of the following:
Substitutions
Assessment of injured players
Removal of injured players
Time wasting
Disciplinary sanctions being issued
Any medical stoppages allowed by the rules, such as those for a drinks break
Any delays added for VAR checks
Other causes deemed relevant by the referee, such as a streaker or excessive goal celebrations
So last nights 2nd half was subs, injuries, time wasting?
Never 8 mins
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