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Post by s7oke on Feb 11, 2024 13:55:50 GMT
Just make him director of football and have done with it
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Feb 11, 2024 13:57:43 GMT
😂. TP wouldn’t have a clue how to manage this squad. You can’t play 442 anymore. TP never ever ever played 442. Yes maybe so, in our Pulis era prime, it was more of a 4-4-1-1 than an actual 4-4-2. We had Kenwyne as the big man up top and then the likes of SJW feeding off of him.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 11, 2024 13:57:47 GMT
Is there any manager anywhere,than can turn a squad of individuals into a team with only 13 games left to play?
Half of those games would be taken up getting used to it,by then it would be too late.
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Feb 11, 2024 14:02:27 GMT
Just make him director of football and have done with it Not really bothered about his specific role. Just get him in and start arresting this slide towards the third division.
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Post by Bagwash on Feb 11, 2024 14:04:43 GMT
FFS . Tony Pulis hasn’t managed in years, his football was shit to watch, he isn’t, never was the saviour, we need forward thinking, young dynamic people in the club, that’s why we are struggling so much. MODERNISE STOKE He definitely WAS the saviour back in the day. And more than that, he gave us great times. I will be forever grateful. Is he the answer today? No. Some of my best times following Stoke was when TP was manager. I never understand the hatred some Stokies have for him.
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Post by anchorman on Feb 11, 2024 14:09:04 GMT
It’s beyond me…our joint most successful manager in our history…it’s beyond moronic..not a brain cell between them.
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Post by anchorman on Feb 11, 2024 14:10:17 GMT
😂. TP wouldn’t have a clue how to manage this squad. You can’t play 442 anymore. TP never ever ever played 442. Well spotted March..4-4-1-1
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Feb 11, 2024 14:14:07 GMT
I wish they would take tp back so it could fail and finally put to bed all this hype about getting him back everytime our club is in crisis..(quite a lot)..
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Post by marwood on Feb 11, 2024 14:19:42 GMT
Only on the cake would you get a Current midfielder post threadjacked to TP After one opening post
You could start a thread on vintage Evel Knievel toys from the 1970s and he would pop up by page 2
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Post by chamberlain on Feb 11, 2024 14:29:45 GMT
FFS . Tony Pulis hasn’t managed in years, his football was shit to watch, he isn’t, never was the saviour, we need forward thinking, young dynamic people in the club, that’s why we are struggling so much. MODERNISE STOKE He definitely WAS the saviour back in the day. And more than that, he gave us great times. I will be forever grateful. Is he the answer today? No. Unfortunately and I'm a big Pulis fan, he won't be able to help with this set of wasters
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 11, 2024 14:31:05 GMT
😂. TP wouldn’t have a clue how to manage this squad. You can’t play 442 anymore. Why not if it works? Because it doesn’t work in this era and we don’t have any actual wingers for a start. The only thing we have that would make a 442 possible is Burger and Pearson in the cage. Every other component of TP’s successful 442 is missing.
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 11, 2024 14:31:54 GMT
TP never ever ever played 442. Well spotted March..4-4-1-1 Even worse because we don’t have a player like Fuller who could play up front on his own.
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Post by Scrotnig on Feb 11, 2024 14:52:13 GMT
He definitely WAS the saviour back in the day. And more than that, he gave us great times. I will be forever grateful. Is he the answer today? No. Unfortunately and I'm a big Pulis fan, he won't be able to help with this set of wasters Agreed.
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Post by Scrotnig on Feb 11, 2024 14:53:49 GMT
He definitely WAS the saviour back in the day. And more than that, he gave us great times. I will be forever grateful. Is he the answer today? No. Some of my best times following Stoke was when TP was manager. I never understand the hatred some Stokies have for him. It was brilliant. I doubt we’ll see such times again in my lifetime but I can live in hope.
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Post by questionable on Feb 11, 2024 15:05:27 GMT
TP might not be the answer but the club could follow his example by surrounding SS with the equivalent of Peter Reid, Gerry Francis, John Rudge etc like Pulis had the sense to do. Approaching TP to perform a similar role wouldn't be a backwards step. Actually taking that approach would be far preferable to employing these PowerPoint, stat merchants that seem to wheedle their way in at every club despite having little practical background in the sport. “ employing these PowerPoint, stat merchants that seem to wheedle their way in at every club despite having little practical background in the sport”. This absolutely 100% is where we’re going wrong at an alarming rate, someone inputting figures on a lap top and it’s the way to go as a business model.
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Post by skidog on Feb 11, 2024 15:57:35 GMT
While we’re at it, why don’t we dig up the bones of Waddo to inspire the spirit of ‘72! Please enlighten me with a better idea? And whilst you’re talking about digging Waddo up , he’s probably got more life & soul in him than any of the no marks currently employed by the club. If you want to see a battle royal, then yes that sure as hell would happen if you brought TP back to ‘help’ These two SS and TP are so polarised in their footballing philosophies that it would never ever work!!
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Feb 11, 2024 16:03:23 GMT
Only on the cake would you get a Current midfielder post threadjacked to TP After one opening post You could start a thread on vintage Evel Knievel toys from the 1970s and he would pop up by page 2 Can you get the vintage Evel Knievel toys in a cap and tracksuit?
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Post by skip on Feb 11, 2024 16:06:32 GMT
Only on the cake would you get a Current midfielder post threadjacked to TP After one opening post You could start a thread on vintage Evel Knievel toys from the 1970s and he would pop up by page 2 Can you get the vintage Evel Knievel toys in a cap and tracksuit? Not all heroes wear capes.
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Post by anchorman on Feb 11, 2024 16:20:36 GMT
I can’t actually remember the last time I witnessed anyone battling for our club in any shape or form. I think SS would appreciate some help & advise, in fact he needs it & they wouldn’t be polar opposites, they would both want Stoke to succeed. The one thing that is indisputable right now is that we are wide open, soft as shit & we need to tighten up. Fact. TP had Gerry Francis, Peter Reid, Kempey none of whom were yes men. They were strong characters that would challenge TP much like Fergie did at Utd, he brought in people to push him not blow smoke up his arse. So yes, it may be a battle royal but that’s healthy if SS is challenged it may push him to come up with the right answers.
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Post by skidog on Feb 11, 2024 18:08:20 GMT
I can’t actually remember the last time I witnessed anyone battling for our club in any shape or form. I think SS would appreciate some help & advise, in fact he needs it & they wouldn’t be polar opposites, they would both want Stoke to succeed. The one thing that is indisputable right now is that we are wide open, soft as shit & we need to tighten up. Fact. TP had Gerry Francis, Peter Reid, Kempey none of whom were yes men. They were strong characters that would challenge TP much like Fergie did at Utd, he brought in people to push him not blow smoke up his arse. So yes, it may be a battle royal but that’s healthy if SS is challenged it may push him to come up with the right answers. Never work, basically that’s the club saying to SS “sorry but we just don’t think you’re capable enough on your own” put yourself in that same situation at work and they get someone in to ‘assist/help’ you, what’s your reaction? mine would certainly not be appreciation, probably more like resentment. Yes, they would both want what’s best for the club but their own thoughts on how to achieve that would invariably lead to conflict. Pulis would want to have far more input in team selection and tactics than SS would ever allow and i could easily envisage a situation where SS would just say fuck it, do it yourself, i’m off”
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Post by samwidge on Feb 11, 2024 18:42:25 GMT
😂. TP wouldn’t have a clue how to manage this squad. You can’t play 442 anymore. Why not if it works? Exactly this. What is wrong with 442? Oh its not fashionable. Fuck that, it worked for over 150 years until this god awful tippy tappy shit became en-vogue. Every team plays it an it's dull as shit. Id love to see 2 wingers and 2 forwards.
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Post by anchorman on Feb 11, 2024 18:49:17 GMT
It’s all about how it’s perceived..If he did react in that way it would be mentally weak. He clearly needs support, his back room staff don’t appear to be helping him out. We haven’t got an “adult” in the building at the moment, a lack of authority & bereft of leadership. We’re crying out for it otherwise we’re done. Lose on Wednesday and I honestly can’t see us getting out of it. To quote Angela Smith, “we’re ill equipped for the fight both on & off the pitch”
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 11, 2024 19:59:24 GMT
Exactly this. What is wrong with 442? Oh its not fashionable. Fuck that, it worked for over 150 years until this god awful tippy tappy shit became en-vogue. Every team plays it an it's dull as shit. Id love to see 2 wingers and 2 forwards. Great. What two wingers do we have? Which two players in the squad are known for taking on their man and putting in crosses?
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Post by malisastokie on Feb 11, 2024 21:00:59 GMT
If I was asked 3 weeks ago will we be dragged into a relegation battle, my answer would have been no.
We are now in a relegation battle being 3 points above the drop zone, however as quickly as we have got in predicament we can come out of it.
QPR game is vital because we have to start winning at some point.
Whether we play 4/3/3 or 4/2/3/1 or another formation we need to do one thing and one thing only to tighten up at the back and that is defend 10 metres further back.
One of the games before Hughes got the sack was in a FA cup game against Blackburn and our back 4 were standing the other side of the halfway line as Blackburn pummeled us early doors similar to Saturday.
We are at home and we need to get on the front foot and attack to win but we need to have balance and not leave 50 metres of space behind our back four, for the opposition on counter attack to run into.
SS inherited this squad and this culture, it’s not his making.
What he did not inherit is the high line and Gun Ho fullbacks , he needs to accept the predicament we are in and the squad we have and play accordingly.
If he does play to what ever strengths we have and we get beaten by a goal caused either by McNally , Rose or Willmont having a nightmare mistake, you don’t sack the guy !!!!
There are a lot of games to go and he needs the club and our support, and he needs pick his best side, play a style that suits those player and stay loyal to them even if there are bad results over the 15 games to allow some confidence and continuity to build.
I think the guy was the right appointment and we are about to find out in the remaining games if he was the right appointment.
Football is a funny game and supporting Stoke compounds the twists and turns that can happen in a short period of time.
Let’s hope we on Wednesday night we are 6 points above the drop zone and we can move forward for the rest of the season.
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Post by Ron on Feb 11, 2024 21:05:17 GMT
FFS . Tony Pulis hasn’t managed in years, his football was shit to watch, he isn’t, never was the saviour, we need forward thinking, young dynamic people in the club, that’s why we are struggling so much. MODERNISE STOKE modernisings going well isn’t it?
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Post by jontimmis on Feb 11, 2024 21:32:17 GMT
Laurent hasn’t turned up all season.
Club captain
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Post by anchorman on Feb 11, 2024 21:46:06 GMT
FFS . Tony Pulis hasn’t managed in years, his football was shit to watch, he isn’t, never was the saviour, we need forward thinking, young dynamic people in the club, that’s why we are struggling so much. MODERNISE STOKE modernisings going well isn’t it? We have a young dynamic coach…he just needs a bit of support.
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Post by cheshirepotter on Feb 11, 2024 21:51:02 GMT
FFS . Tony Pulis hasn’t managed in years, his football was shit to watch, he isn’t, never was the saviour, we need forward thinking, young dynamic people in the club, that’s why we are struggling so much. MODERNISE STOKE I had some of my best Stoke memories watching his ‘shit’ football
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 11, 2024 21:55:21 GMT
Laurent hasn’t turned up all season. Club captain I think your missing the fact our recruitment has lowered the bar he is about standard championship midfielder but that makes him better than any we have signed recently
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Post by st3mark on Feb 11, 2024 21:57:52 GMT
FFS . Tony Pulis hasn’t managed in years, his football was shit to watch, he isn’t, never was the saviour, we need forward thinking, young dynamic people in the club, that’s why we are struggling so much. MODERNISE STOKE I had some of my best memories watching his ‘shit’ football That's because his football was some of the best we've ever played. Give me a solid back four with Etherington and Pennant on the counter attack every week until the end of time.
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