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Post by sticky on Feb 10, 2024 21:33:08 GMT
Manager or players
Schuey seems a very likeable bloke imo, I just hope that’s not clouding my judgement of him.
I really want him to succeed here, and I’m in the camp of blaming the players atm.
Inept performances and stinking the place out with bad attitudes. But am I giving him too much of a free pass? I’ve seen people on here calling for his head already! Surely that’s madness, being realistic though if he doesn’t turn things around sharpish, the atmosphere is going to turn toxic, but who’ll take the brunt of the abuse?
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Post by bojanwonder on Feb 10, 2024 21:37:10 GMT
Manager or players Schuey seems a very likeable bloke imo, I just hope that’s not clouding my judgement of him. I really want him to succeed here, and I’m in the camp of blaming the players atm. Inept performances and stinking the place out with bad attitudes. But am I giving him too much of a free pass? I’ve seen people on here calling for his head already! Surely that’s madness, being realistic though if he doesn’t turn things around sharpish, the atmosphere is going to turn toxic, but who’ll take the brunt of the abuse? I blame the players far more than the manager, but Schuey certainly doesn't get off scott free. He's doing too much tinkering, making too many changes and needs to start finding some continuity within his starting eleven. |
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Post by sticky on Feb 10, 2024 21:40:07 GMT
Manager or players Schuey seems a very likeable bloke imo, I just hope that’s not clouding my judgement of him. I really want him to succeed here, and I’m in the camp of blaming the players atm. Inept performances and stinking the place out with bad attitudes. But am I giving him too much of a free pass? I’ve seen people on here calling for his head already! Surely that’s madness, being realistic though if he doesn’t turn things around sharpish, the atmosphere is going to turn toxic, but who’ll take the brunt of the abuse? I blame the players far more than the manager, but Schuey certainly doesn't get off scott free. He's doing too much tinkering, making too many changes and needs to start finding some continuity within his starting eleven. that’s a fair assessment, somethings happened though surely. We’ve gone from looking half decent to dog shit |
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Post by smallthorner on Feb 10, 2024 21:42:15 GMT
I'm backing the tea lady and her support team.
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Post by potter25 on Feb 10, 2024 21:42:49 GMT
I’m blaming the players
I can cope with losing - can’t cope with not trying
Burger looks the only one who is bothered
We are falling apart
Players falling out with manager
Players falling out with each other
Players falling out with fans
Fans fighting with each other in the stands
The only place I can see us going from here is league 1
Sad
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Post by sticky on Feb 10, 2024 21:43:42 GMT
I’m blaming the players I can cope with losing - can’t cope with not trying Burger looks the only one who is bothered We are falling apart Players falling out with manager Players falling out with each other Players falling out with fans Fans fighting with each other in the stands The only place I can see us going from here is league 1 Sad I fear your right there tbh |
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Feb 10, 2024 21:49:10 GMT
5 managers in as many years should tell you it's the players..
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Post by swampySCFC on Feb 10, 2024 21:53:39 GMT
The players are awful but he knew what the squad (and recruitment team) were before he accepted the job. I suspect he may think he's bitten off more than he can chew at the moment
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Post by albundy on Feb 10, 2024 21:59:45 GMT
He is as much to blame as the players unfortunately
Pushing defenders too far up the pitch
Pushing the full backs into midfield as though we are Liverpool and they are TAA
Bringing Lowe on last week and putting him on the wing
He started brightly with getting the ball forward but we have reverted to pissing around at the back with it lately. Gone from creating lots of chances to looking toothless
Shame as he comes across well
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Post by thepottypotter on Feb 10, 2024 22:03:27 GMT
I am backing mostly the manager, but something obviously went wrong behind the scenes after the Birmingham game.
I won’t speculate what though.
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Post by jordan2009 on Feb 10, 2024 22:10:45 GMT
5 managers in as many years should tell you it's the players.. This is absolutely spot on. |
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Post by lordb on Feb 10, 2024 22:11:54 GMT
They only get out of trouble by doing it together
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Post by pushon on Feb 10, 2024 23:27:11 GMT
Manager or players Schuey seems a very likeable bloke imo, I just hope that’s not clouding my judgement of him. I really want him to succeed here, and I’m in the camp of blaming the players atm. Inept performances and stinking the place out with bad attitudes. But am I giving him too much of a free pass? I’ve seen people on here calling for his head already! Surely that’s madness, being realistic though if he doesn’t turn things around sharpish, the atmosphere is going to turn toxic, but who’ll take the brunt of the abuse? All well and good but Schumacher is NOT the Manager, he is the Head Coach, so I'm not sure that he should be made the scapegoat in all of this. But if the wotsit really hits the fan then he'll probably be seen as expendable. |
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Post by whatsashig on Feb 10, 2024 23:36:21 GMT
Manager or players Schuey seems a very likeable bloke imo, I just hope that’s not clouding my judgement of him. I really want him to succeed here, and I’m in the camp of blaming the players atm. Inept performances and stinking the place out with bad attitudes. But am I giving him too much of a free pass? I’ve seen people on here calling for his head already! Surely that’s madness, being realistic though if he doesn’t turn things around sharpish, the atmosphere is going to turn toxic, but who’ll take the brunt of the abuse? All well and good but Schumacher is NOT the Manager, he is the Head Coach, so I'm not sure that he should be made the scapegoat in all of this. But if the wotsit really hits the fan then he'll probably be seen as expendable. I agree, do we need to introduce more layers in the organisation to say where it’s wrong, it’s the bloody players on the pitch not having individual pride as professional football players, playing like they are primarily players that want to win a game of footy. |
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Post by Boothen on Feb 10, 2024 23:38:27 GMT
It's the manager's job to control the players and to get them playing the best he can. It's the players job to play to the best of their abilities and earn the thousands of pounds per week in wages.
So I'm backing neither.
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Post by stokieinlondon on Feb 10, 2024 23:40:19 GMT
Proven manager after proven manager can’t get it working.
It’s the players. It’s obvious.
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Post by Stretfordpotterer on Feb 11, 2024 0:02:08 GMT
Proven manager after proven manager can’t get it working. It’s the players. It’s obvious. 5 different lots of players? This team has essentially been turned over every year, and it’s shit, it’s been shit every year. So yeah, it’s the players. But the players we have are constantly being asked to play without the fundamentals required to succeed at this level. Pace, power, strength, guile. It’s no coincidence that players we sign look fucking great and then 4 weeks later look like shit. Everything is on tape, everyone else sees that one player is making a difference and can be shut down. It’ll be burger next, someone will be sat on him because he’s the one player that can make us tick. We keep signing decent players in the hope that they’ll make a team but that’s just not how it works. We’re not identifying key skills and essentials. You need someone that can win headers in the box, it doesn’t matter if his passing is ropey, he passes to someone better. You need someone fast enough to offer a threat in behind, you need someone that can fucking tackle. In all likelihood some of them are absolute shithouses, but most of them are decent players who would fit comfortably into a well rounded play off chasing team. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2024 0:06:08 GMT
The job is too big for him.
We are fucked.
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