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Post by Veritas on Feb 11, 2024 21:15:22 GMT
4231 - thats stokes formation! Iverson Junior Stevens Wilmot McNally Pearson Burger Baker Haksabanovic Manhoef Maee thats my view Stevens injured and Mmaee on the naughty step.
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Post by jontimmis on Feb 11, 2024 21:36:31 GMT
Biggest game since?
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Post by Jimm on Feb 11, 2024 21:56:29 GMT
Bonham
Gooch
Willmot Rose Hoever
Junior
Burger Baker Junho
Wes Vidigal
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Post by peterthornesboots on Feb 11, 2024 22:06:09 GMT
Iverson
Junior Rose Wilmot Gooch
Thompson Burger Jun-Ho
Manhoeff Ennis Campbell
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Post by danmase on Feb 12, 2024 6:38:30 GMT
Iversen Tchamadeu Rose Wilmott Hoever Baker Burger Thompson Junho Ennis Manhoeff
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Post by rowleyscfc on Feb 12, 2024 16:51:57 GMT
For me 4-3-2-1
Bonham Tchamadeu McNally Rose Hoever Burger Baker Laurent Manhoef Junho Ennis
I feel he will go 5221/3421 Bonham Tchamadue wilmot McNally Rose Gooch Baker Burger Manhoef Junho Ennis
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Post by spoton on Feb 12, 2024 16:59:52 GMT
For me 4-3-2-1 Bonham Tchamadeu McNally Rose Hoever Burger Baker Laurent Manhoef Junho Ennis I feel he will go 5221/3421 Bonham Tchamadue wilmot McNally Rose Gooch Baker Burger Manhoef Junho Ennis why in gods name would you pick HOEVER,
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Post by emretezzy on Feb 12, 2024 17:03:49 GMT
Bonham Tchmaedau Hoever Clark Rose Thompson Baker Burger Million Jun-Ho Lowe
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Post by Northy on Feb 12, 2024 17:03:51 GMT
Iversen
Wilmot Mcnally Rose
Junior Bearson Burger Million
Bae
MMaee Ennis
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Post by ceejays on Feb 12, 2024 17:10:30 GMT
Christ we are stuffed with shite Anyone suggesting Wilmot after his recent run needs to think again as he has been utter pants When Schumacher plays full backs who attack at the same time no central defender can cope with that . It’s the tactics that are wrong . Naive . Gung ho . Schumacher at meet the manager showed his inexperience. Fabian Delph he quoted. We are not Man City . His latest offering is inverted full backs . He’s a tinker man . In this division physicality is a big issue . To date we have million Cundle and Ennis . All light of stature . Midgets . We were once the land of the giants . No Wilmot or any other centre half has little chance with this approach. This high line approach just seems suicidal
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Post by LphPotter on Feb 12, 2024 17:18:51 GMT
For me 4-3-2-1 Bonham Tchamadeu McNally Rose Hoever Burger Baker Laurent Manhoef Junho Ennis I feel he will go 5221/3421 Bonham Tchamadue wilmot McNally Rose Gooch Baker Burger Manhoef Junho Ennis why in gods name would you pick HOEVER, He’s a better full back than Thompson and Gooch
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 12, 2024 17:19:06 GMT
Christ we are stuffed with shite Anyone suggesting Wilmot after his recent run needs to think again as he has been utter pants When Schumacher plays full backs who attack at the same time no central defender can cope with that . It’s the tactics that are wrong . Naive . Gung ho . Schumacher at meet the manager showed his inexperience. Fabian Delph he quoted. We are not Man City . His latest offering is inverted full backs . He’s a tinker man . In this division physicality is a big issue . To date we have million Cundle and Ennis . All light of stature . Midgets . We were once the land of the giants . No Wilmot or any other centre half has little chance with this approach. This high line approach just seems suicidal I think that means Thompson-Burger-Bae as the midfield. Those are our three most tenacious midfielders and you can use Thompson+Burger to sit and shield the defence when under pressure or you've sent both fullbacks up. It's not just the weakness at CB, we're truly getting fisted extra by the lack of a real leftback IMO. To the point I'd consider 5-3-2 and I bloody hate 5-3-2.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 12, 2024 17:34:37 GMT
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Post by Trouserdog on Feb 12, 2024 17:35:45 GMT
3-4-1-2
Iverson
Wilmot McNally Rose
Tchamedeu Burger Pearson Manhoef
Junho
Wesley Ennis
No chance he's doing that though.
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Post by chamberlain on Feb 12, 2024 17:38:16 GMT
why in gods name would you pick HOEVER, He’s a better full back than Thompson and Gooch Hoever has been atrocious this season
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Post by windows1 on Feb 12, 2024 17:49:51 GMT
I keep trying pick a team and have come to the conclusion this is a league 1 team/squad.
We deserve to go down
Wave the white flag
We are shite!
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Post by mcw on Feb 12, 2024 18:17:55 GMT
When Schumacher plays full backs who attack at the same time no central defender can cope with that . It’s the tactics that are wrong . Naive . Gung ho . Schumacher at meet the manager showed his inexperience. Fabian Delph he quoted. We are not Man City . His latest offering is inverted full backs . He’s a tinker man . In this division physicality is a big issue . To date we have million Cundle and Ennis . All light of stature . Midgets . We were once the land of the giants . No Wilmot or any other centre half has little chance with this approach. This high line approach just seems suicidal I think that means Thompson-Burger-Bae as the midfield. Those are our three most tenacious midfielders and you can use Thompson+Burger to sit and shield the defence when under pressure or you've sent both fullbacks up. It's not just the weakness at CB, we're truly getting fisted extra by the lack of a real leftback IMO. To the point I'd consider 5-3-2 and I bloody hate 5-3-2. Exactly the problem, the set up has been exposed and as much as the players have only themselves to blame for individual crap defending there is a large element of the inevitable about it when you play such gung ho tactics and exposing your centre backs to being one on one pretty much from minute one. HE HAS to change his tactics to be harder to beat or the inevitable is going to happen. We are devoid of confidence and not taking too many chances when we do create (Birmingham at home), so let's concentrate on shoring up the back, be more compact and harder to play through and then look to build from that.
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Post by Goonie on Feb 12, 2024 18:20:10 GMT
Bonham Junior (told to stay back) McNally Rose Gooch (told to stay back) Pearson (in the sitting dm role) Baker Burger Bae Ennis Million That's the key for me here. Marauding wingers only work if your backline are up to being wingbacks and your centre halves have pace and nous. Ours don't
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Post by spoton on Feb 12, 2024 18:45:33 GMT
why in gods name would you pick HOEVER, He’s a better full back than Thompson and Gooch That's definitely a matter of opinion,my view he's not good enough to play in the under 21, he's probably one of the worst full backs I've ever seen
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Post by spoton on Feb 12, 2024 18:49:10 GMT
I think that means Thompson-Burger-Bae as the midfield. Those are our three most tenacious midfielders and you can use Thompson+Burger to sit and shield the defence when under pressure or you've sent both fullbacks up. It's not just the weakness at CB, we're truly getting fisted extra by the lack of a real leftback IMO. To the point I'd consider 5-3-2 and I bloody hate 5-3-2. Exactly the problem, the set up has been exposed and as much as the players have only themselves to blame for individual crap defending there is a large element of the inevitable about it when you play such gung ho tactics and exposing your centre backs to being one on one pretty much from minute one. HE HAS to change his tactics to be harder to beat or the inevitable is going to happen. We are devoid of confidence and not taking too many chances when we do create (Birmingham at home), so let's concentrate on shoring up the back, be more compact and harder to play through and then look to build from that. Totally agree he must know the defence is the problem so don't push the full backs up and leave gaps that the CH cannot cover, it's simple football,if he's not learnt from Saturday then he shouldn't be in charge on Thursday
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Post by mcw on Feb 12, 2024 18:57:02 GMT
Exactly the problem, the set up has been exposed and as much as the players have only themselves to blame for individual crap defending there is a large element of the inevitable about it when you play such gung ho tactics and exposing your centre backs to being one on one pretty much from minute one. HE HAS to change his tactics to be harder to beat or the inevitable is going to happen. We are devoid of confidence and not taking too many chances when we do create (Birmingham at home), so let's concentrate on shoring up the back, be more compact and harder to play through and then look to build from that. Totally agree he must know the defence is the problem so don't push the full backs up and leave gaps that the CH cannot cover, it's simple football,if he's not learnt from Saturday then he shouldn't be in charge on Thursday Yep, if he tries this inverted full-back crap on Wednesday and we get comfortably beaten then in my book he has to go. He has his principles, but in these circumstances he needs to be practical and realize that he needs to find a way to get results until he can assemble a squad capable of what he wants to do. He seems intent of filling the team with lightweight players with the thinking that they will win the game for us by retaining the ball and overloading the opposition. Basically played 5 forward thinking players against Blackburn- Ennis, Johnson, Vidigal, Bae and Mannhoef, leaving Burger as the one combative midfielder, asking the right and left back to push up and into midfield and leaving the centre backs totally exposed. If he does this versus QPR then god help us.
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Post by Los Alfareros on Feb 12, 2024 18:57:03 GMT
Hate to say it but we have to go 5 at the back, look at the goals from Saturday, dreadful. I would stick Wes in as a target man, if only we could get a partnership up front!! Ennis cus he scored. Fuck all the "wingers" off, waste of a shirt.
Bonham
Junior Rose McNally Wilma Gooch
Burger Thompson Bae
Wes Ennis
Fucking lump it lads and get after the second ball!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by mcw on Feb 12, 2024 19:01:40 GMT
Hate to say it but we have to go 5 at the back, look at the goals from Saturday, dreadful. I would stick Wes in as a target man, if only we could get a partnership up front!! Ennis cus he scored. Fuck all the "wingers" off, waste of a shirt. Bonham Junior Rose McNally Wilma Gooch Burger Thompson Bae Wes Ennis Fucking lump it lads and get after the second ball!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't disagree, this certainly isn't the type of game Vidigal/Leris/Haks/Mannhoef are likely to get a sniff in if we lined up similar to Saturday. Keep it as tight as we can with Burger/Thompson as primarily sitters and then let Bae get in pocket and try and feed Ennis. Lump long to Wes as the alternative approach and try and live of the scraps. The signing of Mannhoef (whether he becomes a gem or not) was gross negligence when we have so many players in similar positions and have consistently shown that we can not play in a way to get any end product out of them.
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Post by thepottypotter on Feb 12, 2024 19:07:11 GMT
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Feb 12, 2024 19:10:07 GMT
Iversen Wilmot Mcnally Rose Junior Bearson Burger Million Bae MMaee Ennis Bearson..... Is he Icelandic??? 🤔
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Post by gingerninja on Feb 12, 2024 19:20:07 GMT
I think the Blackburn coach summed up why we are so easy to play against at the moment, I think he said something along the lines of, we knew we would get opportunities in transition, basically we are to open out of possession.
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Post by smallthorner on Feb 12, 2024 20:27:15 GMT
............Iversen...............
.....Junior...Wilmot...Rose..........
Hoever....Burger...Thompson...Million
.............Baker.................
......Mmaee.........Ennis............
Wing backs.
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Post by Old School Stokie on Feb 12, 2024 20:35:04 GMT
Forget three at the back, we have to go 4-4-2 with defenders defending first and foremost. Then when we do have the ball the fullbacks move up the two wide middle attempt to go down the wing and support whoever is up front - think it needs to back to basics at this point in time.
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Post by stoke1989 on Feb 12, 2024 20:49:16 GMT
...........Bonham
Junior Mcnally Rose Thompson ....... Burger baker ...........Junho Leris............... million ......... Ennis
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Post by owdestokie2 on Feb 12, 2024 20:56:55 GMT
If fit Laurent will play on Wednesday
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