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Post by ravey123 on Feb 10, 2024 18:12:03 GMT
But where are they coming from
Got 5 games against the top 6 so we need. 16 points from 11 games - isn’t happening in all reality.
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Feb 10, 2024 18:14:25 GMT
No chance.
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Post by Pricey on Feb 10, 2024 18:15:30 GMT
Beating QPR would leave it as 13 from 10 which sounds slightly more manageable doesn't it? Lose that and we need 1.6 points a game which probably isn't going to happen.
Could stay up on 45 points potentially though, at a push.
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Post by telfordstokie on Feb 10, 2024 18:16:18 GMT
We managed seven unbeaten not so long ago including points against top six sides - it is still perfectly doable but we do desperately need to beat QPR to stop the rot.
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Post by gawa on Feb 10, 2024 18:18:01 GMT
Need to be aiming for 6 from the next 3 in my opinion. Or even 5 points.
Get that and it's only 10 or 11 points left from 12 games which is worse than relegation form and very possible.
Makes me wonder if 16 points would even be enough? 3 against QPR would help alot. Lose to them and it may be more than 16 needed.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Feb 10, 2024 18:20:17 GMT
It’s not happening. This side leaks goals, can’t be arsed, no LB, piss poor CB’s, no goal scorers. And dissent in the ranks, and an inexperienced manager that can’t set up a side.
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Post by Trouserdog on Feb 10, 2024 18:22:13 GMT
We're fucked. If we don't go down this season we'll go down next.
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Post by Rick Grimes on Feb 10, 2024 18:25:57 GMT
It’s not happening. This side leaks goals, can’t be arsed, no LB, piss poor CB’s, no goal scorers. And dissent in the ranks, and an inexperienced manager that can’t set up a side. All that and there’s a distinct lack of fight and willingness to battle for loose balls. Any confidence that was there has gone now as well. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 10, 2024 19:23:44 GMT
Leeds , Southampton Hull away all to come we are in a terrible position
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Post by willieeetmiout on Feb 10, 2024 19:26:42 GMT
But where are they coming from Got 5 games against the top 6 so we need. 16 points from 11 games - isn’t happening in all reality. It's easily doable if you don't have a completely clueless manager who thinks 2 at the back, 1 on occasion, is a good thing away from home in relegation 6 pointer. He's clueless. Completely out of his depth. At least Nathan Jones banged his chest. However, I expected nothing less |
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Post by GrahamHyde on Feb 10, 2024 20:08:44 GMT
We're fucked. Shambles of a club.
Bad decision after bad decision. With some of the richest owners in the country we've somehow contrived to be relegated to League One.
Woeful, useless f*ckers to a man.
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Post by kev1060 on Feb 10, 2024 20:47:11 GMT
We haven't got 5 games against the top six , as we've already played Leicester, Ipswich and Sunderland twice!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 11, 2024 7:08:44 GMT
Come on then where are the 16/18 points coming from with these games remaining🤔
Home
QPR
Coventry
Middlesbrough
Norwich
Huddersfield
WBA
Plymouth
Bristol City
Away
Cardiff
Leeds
Preston
Hull
Swansea
Sheff Wed
Southampton
I don’t fancy a lot of those away games with this lot of players so we’ve got to get the home form going somehow.
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Post by professorplump on Feb 11, 2024 8:11:38 GMT
Come on then where are the 16/18 points coming from with these games remaining🤔 Home QPR Coventry Middlesbrough Norwich Huddersfield WBA Plymouth Bristol City Away Cardiff Leeds Preston Hull Swansea Sheff Wed Southampton I don’t fancy a lot of those away games with this lot of players so we’ve got to get the home form going somehow. I think that towards the end of the season it is best to play teams in mid table who have nothing much to play for, so that could be Plymouth, Bristol City and Swansea, although Plymouth may be quite motivated against us. I think we also need to beat QPR, Huddersfield and Sheff Wed as much to stop them from picking up points. One thing's for sure, I don't fancy having to go to Southampton needing a win to stay up. |
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Post by questionable on Feb 11, 2024 8:29:50 GMT
Honestly can’t see us winning another game, odd draw here and there.
We have a few talented individuals but the rot has firmly set in, there’s just no spirit., Campbell and Pearson yesterday proved exactly this.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 11, 2024 8:32:27 GMT
Keep playing with inverted full backs and leaving us exposed at the back and we’re relegated.
It’s as simple as that…….
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Post by chiswickpotter on Feb 11, 2024 8:37:59 GMT
Come on then where are the 16/18 points coming from with these games remaining🤔 Home QPR Coventry Middlesbrough Norwich Huddersfield WBA Plymouth Bristol City Away Cardiff Leeds Preston Hull Swansea Sheff Wed Southampton I don’t fancy a lot of those away games with this lot of players so we’ve got to get the home form going somehow. 6 of the home games are very winnable, only Coventry and West Brom look hard and only Leeds and Douthmapton lol nailed on away defeats and Saints might be up or in the play offs when we play them. |
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Post by theonlooker on Feb 11, 2024 8:38:52 GMT
I said a couple of weeks ago that the manager just needed to park his ideals to one side and lash up a team to get results any way we can, get through to the summer where hopefully we can recruit players more suited to his system.
I'm not quite sure what that entails though, because from the outset his system seems very simple with the non negotiatiables and it seems they are struggling with the passing forward, running forward and most importantly, the sprinting back.
In short it seems like the current squad just aren't having him just like the squad years ago wouldn't have Jones. The parallels are shockingly similar re. A young manager having success with young, League One and Two players with a relatively simple system that much more expensive players can't play?
I don't think the falling out with senior players is helping to motivate the rest of the squad either.
The main issue that he has to navigate is results. There is no bigger confidence killer in a manager than losing games and losing them heavily and/or consistently.
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Post by emretezzy on Feb 11, 2024 8:39:40 GMT
We're fucked. If we don't go down this season we'll go down next. In this league your only ever a food center half away from being competitive. Its absolute dog muck. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 11, 2024 8:43:22 GMT
Come on then where are the 16/18 points coming from with these games remaining🤔 Home QPR Coventry Middlesbrough Norwich Huddersfield WBA Plymouth Bristol City Away Cardiff Leeds Preston Hull Swansea Sheff Wed Southampton I don’t fancy a lot of those away games with this lot of players so we’ve got to get the home form going somehow. 6 of the home games are very winnable, only Coventry and West Brom look hard and only Leeds and Douthmapton lol nailed on away defeats and Saints might be up or in the play offs when we play them. All well and good mate but when you haven’t won at home since Oct 25th no game seems winnable to me |
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Post by thornestein on Feb 11, 2024 8:46:31 GMT
Come on then where are the 16/18 points coming from with these games remaining🤔 Home QPR Coventry Middlesbrough Norwich Huddersfield WBA Plymouth Bristol City Away Cardiff Leeds Preston Hull Swansea Sheff Wed Southampton I don’t fancy a lot of those away games with this lot of players so we’ve got to get the home form going somehow. 6 of the home games are very winnable, only Coventry and West Brom look hard and only Leeds and Douthmapton lol nailed on away defeats and Saints might be up or in the play offs when we play them. our home form is awful so how are they winnable? |
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Post by stokiejoe on Feb 11, 2024 8:47:39 GMT
Forget 16 points or however many. We need to get more points than 3 other teams, sadly that's the reality of the situation. Make it to the end of the season and start again. Wish it were different, it's the hope that gets you.
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Post by potters11 on Feb 11, 2024 8:49:18 GMT
If only we had Rotherham to play 😆
In all seriousness I think it’ll be a bit closer than it should have been based on where we were a month or so back but I can see us staying up fairly comfortably.
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Post by questionable on Feb 11, 2024 8:53:13 GMT
I said a couple of weeks ago that the manager just needed to park his ideals to one side and lash up a team to get results any way we can, get through to the summer where hopefully we can recruit players more suited to his system. I'm not quite sure what that entails though, because from the outset his system seems very simple with the non negotiatiables and it seems they are struggling with the passing forward, running forward and most importantly, the sprinting back. In short it seems like the current squad just aren't having him just like the squad years ago wouldn't have Jones. The parallels are shockingly similar re. A young manager having success with young, League One and Two players with a relatively simple system that much more expensive players can't play? I don't think the falling out with senior players is helping to motivate the rest of the squad either. The main issue that he has to navigate is results. There is no bigger confidence killer in a manager than losing games and losing them heavily and/or consistently. Which makes you think why JC has done exactly what he did with NJ, nothing makes any sense with this bloke in charge, deserves everything he gets. |
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Post by danceswithclams on Feb 11, 2024 8:53:21 GMT
In all seriousness I think it’ll be a bit closer than it should have been based on where we were a month or so back but I can see us staying up fairly comfortably. What possibly makes you think that? |
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Post by potters11 on Feb 11, 2024 9:02:37 GMT
In all seriousness I think it’ll be a bit closer than it should have been based on where we were a month or so back but I can see us staying up fairly comfortably. What possibly makes you think that? Just a hunch mate and how we’ve dealt with similar relegation scraps since we’ve come down. Saying that I thought we’d stay up in 2018 too… Don’t for one minute think I’ve become blindsided into thinking we’re something we’re not but there’s plenty of time left in the season and still plenty of naff teams to play (of which I know we are one of them.) The bookies aren’t far wrong normally and they have us at 7’s to get relegated and that feels about right for me. |
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