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Post by wrexhamstokie90 on Feb 10, 2024 20:23:39 GMT
Wilmot is the worst I’ve seen in a long time at the back makes mistake after mistake an blames others around him rose an mcnally for me
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Post by Trouserdog on Feb 10, 2024 20:30:56 GMT
Lyndon Dykes coming up on Wednesday. Pathetic how passive and fragile half of our team are. When was the last time we saw some aggressive challenges and some fight? Christ. Whichever two CBs we pick, Dykes will put one on a sandwich while shagging the other.
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Post by Timmy on Feb 10, 2024 20:42:26 GMT
Lyndon Dykes coming up on Wednesday. Pathetic how passive and fragile half of our team are. When was the last time we saw some aggressive challenges and some fight? Shortly before a yellow or red card I imagine 😂 Can be aggressive without giving away yellows or reds.
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Post by tinofspam on Feb 10, 2024 20:55:43 GMT
Rose and McNally look better together. Wilmot looks all over the place. They both went for the same header for the 3rd goal, there didn’t seem to be any cohesion or communication at all. It’s that bad I’d even consider playing Burger at CB for the rest of the season. Frank Fielding with Wesley. A lot would fear Wesley and I bet some would fear Fielding, they won’t know what to expect from him. Although, it could also go tits up and we see a rare 10-0 in the championship
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Post by thepottypotter on Feb 10, 2024 20:57:51 GMT
Never seen such weak pansies playing at CB at Stoke.
It’s embarrassing to watch.
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Post by Ron on Feb 10, 2024 21:01:24 GMT
It was obvious that we’d not signed the required decent centre back in the summer ‘- to then not address the issue in jan was negligence of the highest order. I hate this club right now.
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Post by apb1979 on Feb 11, 2024 12:26:29 GMT
Since coming back from his injury we’ve conceded 15 goals in 4 games when wilmot has started. Hes a massive problem
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 11, 2024 12:36:15 GMT
Lyndon Dykes coming up on Wednesday. Pathetic how passive and fragile half of our team are. When was the last time we saw some aggressive challenges and some fight? Yup. When I used to play competitive sport at a half decent level and was having a bad game I made sure I was doing the basics at 110%. I'd recognise my game was off but I'd be covering every blade of grass and tackling hard, fair but hard so at least I wouldn't get the.....you haven't tried hard enough bollocking. It should be the minimum that pros do. But this lot and the others before them this last 6 years just seem to slip into 2nd gear and cruise to another defeat. No passion and zero integrity. And certainly no pride for our once great club. And look at the reaction of our crowd when decent tackles go in. Its almost like a goal sometimes. If I was a stoke player I'd be buzzing getting the crowd going for just a simple honest hard tackle. Almost like free cheers and back slaps for doing something that essentially doesn't require Messi like skills. Useless fuckers most of em. A few exceptions of course...
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 11, 2024 12:42:26 GMT
McNally and Rose were doing ok. Why did we change it?
We needed new CBs not Wilmot.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Feb 11, 2024 12:52:54 GMT
Let’s get one thing straight, our centres backs are shit but they were hung out to dry by the manager today. The amount of times it was 1v1 or 2v2 at the back because of this inverted full back bollocks was just naive beyond belief. Kamikaze tactics from Schumacher first half, as bad a set up for a relegation 6 pointer against a side low on confidence I think I’ve ever seen……. I think it was for the second goal where Mili was defending a cross to the far post where Tchamadeu should've been but he was lurking around the edge of the area/penalty spot totally out of position. We were all over the gaff.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 11, 2024 12:57:14 GMT
Let’s get one thing straight, our centres backs are shit but they were hung out to dry by the manager today. The amount of times it was 1v1 or 2v2 at the back because of this inverted full back bollocks was just naive beyond belief. Kamikaze tactics from Schumacher first half, as bad a set up for a relegation 6 pointer against a side low on confidence I think I’ve ever seen……. I think it was for the second goal where Mili was defending a cross to the far post where Tchamadeu should've been but he was lurking around the edge of the area/penalty spot totally out of position. We were all over the gaff. Tchamadeu was basically a centre midfielder first half. The space to the right of McNally was like the Grand Canyon, I’m only a Level 2 kids coach and would be embarrassed to send my team out like that……
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Post by theonlooker on Feb 11, 2024 12:59:22 GMT
I think it was for the second goal where Mili was defending a cross to the far post where Tchamadeu should've been but he was lurking around the edge of the area/penalty spot totally out of position. We were all over the gaff. Tchamadeu was basically a centre midfielder first half. The space to the right of McNally was like the Grand Canyon, I’m only a Level 2 kids coach and would be embarrassed to send my team out like that…… Pretty much this. It's a very fine line between trying to be clever tactically and throwing your players under the bus. It's no wonder they aren't playing for him. His tactics are shit and when they don't want to play ball with said, shit tactics they get sent to the kids.
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 11, 2024 13:03:18 GMT
I was a bit surprised to see that Wilmot couldn't keep up with the pace of Gallagher yesterday!
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 11, 2024 13:03:23 GMT
Tchamadeu was basically a centre midfielder first half. The space to the right of McNally was like the Grand Canyon, I’m only a Level 2 kids coach and would be embarrassed to send my team out like that…… Pretty much this. It's a very fine line between trying to be clever tactically and throwing your players under the bus. It's no wonder they aren't playing for him. His tactics are shit and when they don't want to play ball with said, shit tactics they get sent to the kids. Why does Bae Junho get moved everywhere on the pitch apart from his best position in the space behind the forward as well? I felt so sorry for him second half, he worked his nuts off out on the right and was our only outlet, yet he bought a wideman in Haksabanovic on and still after racking my brains do I have no idea where he was playing or what the formation was meant to be?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 11, 2024 13:25:41 GMT
Lyndon Dykes coming up on Wednesday. Pathetic how passive and fragile half of our team are. When was the last time we saw some aggressive challenges and some fight? The bloke that scored their equaliser yesterday Michael Fray who came on as sub is 6ft 2 and built like a brick shithouse also from the pictures I saw of his goal so even if Dykes doesn’t start they’ll still have his physical presence also.Then you have Sinclair Armstong’s pace and power also which will give our tarts at centre half a tough night
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Post by GeneralFaye on Feb 11, 2024 13:58:41 GMT
Tchamadeu was basically a centre midfielder first half. The space to the right of McNally was like the Grand Canyon, I’m only a Level 2 kids coach and would be embarrassed to send my team out like that…… Pretty much this. It's a very fine line between trying to be clever tactically and throwing your players under the bus. It's no wonder they aren't playing for him. His tactics are shit and when they don't want to play ball with said, shit tactics they get sent to the kids. Interesting stance you've taken, seemingly siding with the players... I'll wait to see what happens before I jump in with both feet.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Feb 11, 2024 14:23:36 GMT
It doesn't help that they have to play full back too. From when Neil was sacked up until we beat Rotherham we had conceded 4 goals in 8 games and only 7 teams had conceded less than us in the league. Full backs for the most part sat deep throughout this time. Since the loss to Birmingham he has gone balls to the wall attacking with full backs, midfield and wide players all playing high up. This has resulted in 14 goal conceded in 4 games. The best part about this allout attack is that we have scored 3 in the last 4 games compared to 5 in the first 4 games since Neil left. So we dont even score more. Gallagher was on to something then? I thought the team looked most organised for those games, Gallagher and the lad from Crewe clearly knew we were pretty poor and needed to be more organised. Schumacher thinking they can attack their way to safety looks deluded
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Post by onionman on Feb 11, 2024 14:32:37 GMT
This whole business of the fullbacks pushing up into midfield. It’s what Rooney did at Birmingham and we just picked them off for our easiest win since the halcyon days of Rotherham. Even Gooch and Vidigal looked dangerous against that stupid system.
Did Schumacher watch that game and think, that looks like a great tactic, I’ll give it a go.
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Post by theonlooker on Feb 11, 2024 15:41:28 GMT
Pretty much this. It's a very fine line between trying to be clever tactically and throwing your players under the bus. It's no wonder they aren't playing for him. His tactics are shit and when they don't want to play ball with said, shit tactics they get sent to the kids. Interesting stance you've taken, seemingly siding with the players... I'll wait to see what happens before I jump in with both feet. I'm not siding with anyone. The players are culpable but they clearly need managing and they could do with some help in being put in a system that suits them. Anything else is just batshit.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Feb 11, 2024 15:54:05 GMT
This whole business of the fullbacks pushing up into midfield. It’s what Rooney did at Birmingham and we just picked them off for our easiest win since the halcyon days of Rotherham. Even Gooch and Vidigal looked dangerous against that stupid system. Did Schumacher watch that game and think, that looks like a great tactic, I’ll give it a go. We did it at Birmingham and it worked.
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Post by iglugluk on Feb 11, 2024 16:28:22 GMT
This whole business of the fullbacks pushing up into midfield. It’s what Rooney did at Birmingham and we just picked them off for our easiest win since the halcyon days of Rotherham. Even Gooch and Vidigal looked dangerous against that stupid system. Did Schumacher watch that game and think, that looks like a great tactic, I’ll give it a go. We did it at Birmingham and it worked. Birmingham under Rooney were in crisis.
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Post by onionman on Feb 11, 2024 16:30:20 GMT
This whole business of the fullbacks pushing up into midfield. It’s what Rooney did at Birmingham and we just picked them off for our easiest win since the halcyon days of Rotherham. Even Gooch and Vidigal looked dangerous against that stupid system. Did Schumacher watch that game and think, that looks like a great tactic, I’ll give it a go. We did it at Birmingham and it worked. Two of our goals came because Gooch and Vidigal had incredible amounts of space as the Brum fullbacks pushed into midfield. The Birmingham fans were furious that Rooney persisted with that tactic.
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Post by jokker on Feb 11, 2024 17:33:11 GMT
However you look at it the entire recruitment has been abysmal, yes we’ve let two imbeciles oversee 18 players come in in the summer but good God they’ve neglected seriously in key areas. I’ve yet to see Iversen make a decent save yet, shot goal ratio must be disastrous You're probably right, but there's not many that went in where you'd say, 'why didn't he save that'.
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Post by tejstokie on Feb 11, 2024 17:36:33 GMT
Nobody believed me when I said we needed two at minimum. At this point it's beyond words as all their actions are for everyone to see no matter the lineup.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 11, 2024 17:59:05 GMT
Halves
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