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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 4, 2024 8:19:08 GMT
Pearson showed last season he can be very good, and he certainly isn't too old to keep that level up. I don't know if it's his motivation, but right now he plays for a team that have the weakest pair of fullbacks in the league (Hoever and Thompson), central defenders who are below average and strikers who can't find the net. I guess it doesn't help at all. He also needs to feel the trust of the manager which doesn't seem to be the case right now either.
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Post by lordflashheart on Feb 4, 2024 8:23:27 GMT
Should be nowhere near the starting eleven. Surprised he’s on the bench. Did the manager actually think he’d act as a protective shield yesterday?
He’s so disinterested he couldn’t even be arsed get himself booked yesterday
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Post by Rick Grimes on Feb 4, 2024 8:26:46 GMT
Last season I could see what he bought to the team, he was decent at breaking up the play and dropping into good defensive positions covering for Hoever when he was bombing forward.
This season he’s been completely off the pace from the start and hasn’t looked capable of getting up to speed.
I don’t know if it’s purely fitness related or if he’s just completely shot but given his performances this season it’s worrying that he’s still got another 3 years left on his deal after this season.
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Post by xchpotter on Feb 4, 2024 10:30:13 GMT
I think his legs have gone which is unusual at his age. Every time he runs back it looks like he’s trying but nothing is happening…..bit like a slipping clutch on a car, lots of revs but no speed. I think he’s also settled on this being his last best pay deal so he’s just switched off. He will hang heavy around our necks for some time with the length of contract sadly.
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Post by fazza90 on Feb 4, 2024 10:47:31 GMT
He does look unfit and un-arsed. When he first arrived he seemed to have the bit between his teeth. When I watch him play now I just get the feeling he'd rather not be on the pitch or even involved in football. Shame because there's a cracking team player in there somewhere and he's young enough to return to fitness/motivation.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 4, 2024 11:06:32 GMT
I'm no fan of Pearson but unless he's was injured you have to feel hookig him at half time will do more harm than good as he was no worse than the others and going with cundle second half just made it miles worse You can see why some of the players will feel the manager doesn't have the gravitas Mate Pearson was utter dogshit and easily our worst player and with Campbell and Hoever on the pitch that’s a cracking achievement. Cundle was head and shoulders better than him and he was mostly rubbish/outclassed.
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Post by baconburger on Feb 4, 2024 11:51:34 GMT
He does look unfit and un-arsed. When he first arrived he seemed to have the bit between his teeth. When I watch him play now I just get the feeling he'd rather not be on the pitch or even involved in football. Shame because there's a cracking team player in there somewhere and he's young enough to return to fitness/motivation. He’ll be sulking. He doesn’t like being a bit part player. Said as much himself on RS when he came here on loan. Said he’s a player who needs to play every week to be in the groove.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 4, 2024 12:21:18 GMT
Giving him a 4 year contract.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Feb 4, 2024 12:28:01 GMT
I‘m not sure why you’d bring him back in from the cold in a game like that, where Leicester are strong in the middle. Put Thompson in there who is at least up to match sharpness. I don’t think it was Pearson’s fault we were 2-0 down and I didn’t think he was hideous, but someone had to make way at half time.
Giving squad players only 45 minutes to prove themselves against the stand out league leaders and then subbing them at half time isn’t particularly great management either. He seems to have had a bit of crisis this last week or so in terms of his decision making.
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Post by jokker on Feb 4, 2024 12:43:46 GMT
Pearson did Something just before the kick-off against Swansea. It was the game after Alex Neil got the sack. I'm not sure if many noticed it. However I thought straight away he was sending a message out too certain players in the side who had thrown the towel in on AN. I might be miles off, and for that reason I won't say what it was. However he's not done it since He's no longer captain
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Feb 4, 2024 12:44:49 GMT
A four year contract
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Post by jokker on Feb 4, 2024 12:45:23 GMT
Should be nowhere near the starting eleven. Surprised he’s on the bench. Did the manager actually think he’d act as a protective shield yesterday? He’s so disinterested he couldn’t even be arsed get himself booked yesterday He did try. Not his fault that the ref wasn't buying into his bollocking...
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Feb 4, 2024 14:17:44 GMT
When we start playing well on a more consistent basis, Pearson will be a key player.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Feb 4, 2024 14:45:43 GMT
When we start playing well on a more consistent basis, Pearson will be a key player. Yeah Pearson looks every inch a standout League One player so that works perfectly.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Feb 4, 2024 14:55:49 GMT
Pearson did Something just before the kick-off against Swansea. It was the game after Alex Neil got the sack. I'm not sure if many noticed it. However I thought straight away he was sending a message out too certain players in the side who had thrown the towel in on AN. I might be miles off, and for that reason I won't say what it was. However he's not done it since Come on you can't throw that in then not tell us what it was...
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 4, 2024 14:58:47 GMT
Pearson did Something just before the kick-off against Swansea. It was the game after Alex Neil got the sack. I'm not sure if many noticed it. However I thought straight away he was sending a message out too certain players in the side who had thrown the towel in on AN. I might be miles off, and for that reason I won't say what it was. However he's not done it since What did he do?
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Post by mrcoke on Feb 4, 2024 15:14:04 GMT
I was very enthusiastic with his signing last season, just the sort of player we needed at the time.
Why his form has dropped is anyone's guess. Personal problem, his form has gone (some player's form just falls off a cliff), he went into "retirement" when he signed his last big contract, ? Who knows?
Don't think we should think too much about him being hooked at half time. He was picked to boost the MF against Leicester to try and stop being overrun. But it didn't work and we needed to score goals in the second half, to which he contributes nothing.
My theory is he is jealous at all the adulation Burger is getting and Burger getting the captaincy. We saw it with Adam under Lambert, when the team were instructed to always give the ball to Shaqiri.
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Post by matelot1996 on Feb 4, 2024 15:17:33 GMT
End of his career, big wages, thank you very much. Yet another Stoke Player who is unwanted by any other club. We literally have 15 - 20 of them. Tragic club.
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Post by xchpotter on Feb 4, 2024 15:40:04 GMT
End of his career, big wages, thank you very much. Yet another Stoke Player who is unwanted by any other club. We literally have 15 - 20 of them. Tragic club. We sure do have a penchant for washed up losers seeking a last big hurrah. At what point does someone in the club ask whether this is any reason behind it.
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Post by jokker on Feb 4, 2024 15:49:26 GMT
When we start playing well on a more consistent basis, Pearson will be a key player. He'll be an old man before that happens... You just can't rely on players who are only fair weather players. We have quite a number of those, like Campbell, great player but only when the opposition ignores him. Several others apply.
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Post by jokker on Feb 4, 2024 15:57:24 GMT
End of his career, big wages, thank you very much. Yet another Stoke Player who is unwanted by any other club. We literally have 15 - 20 of them. Tragic club. The pathetic thing is he's not at the end of his career. He's midway through it. It's now he should rely on years of experience which he'd use to guide younger players. But when the club handed him a 4-year contract it gave him a free ride to not putting in a shift.
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Post by jokker on Feb 4, 2024 16:00:29 GMT
I was very enthusiastic with his signing last season, just the sort of player we needed at the time.
Why his form has dropped is anyone's guess. Personal problem, his form has gone (some player's form just falls off a cliff), he went into "retirement" when he signed his last big contract, ? Who knows?
Don't think we should think too much about him being hooked at half time. He was picked to boost the MF against Leicester to try and stop being overrun. But it didn't work and we needed to score goals in the second half, to which he contributes nothing.
My theory is he is jealous at all the adulation Burger is getting and Burger getting the captaincy. We saw it with Adam under Lambert, when the team were instructed to always give the ball to Shaqiri. Interesting theory. But Burger didn't grab the captaincy from Perason. Pearson lost it through poor performances and suspension, before Burger showed responsibility within the team, as one of...I don't really know who else !
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Post by shakermaker on Feb 4, 2024 16:09:51 GMT
Last season I could see what he bought to the team, he was decent at breaking up the play and dropping into good defensive positions covering for Hoever when he was bombing forward. This season he’s been completely off the pace from the start and hasn’t looked capable of getting up to speed. I don’t know if it’s purely fitness related or if he’s just completely shot but given his performances this season it’s worrying that he’s still got another 3 years left on his deal after this season. It was a massive mistake giving him a 4-year contract. Should have been 3 years max. I don’t know what happened in the summer to send him so far off the boil. He has always been motivated under Neil so it’s very unlike him to have just lost interest. Players’ legs don’t go at 29 y/o.
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Post by matelot1996 on Feb 4, 2024 16:39:22 GMT
End of his career, big wages, thank you very much. Yet another Stoke Player who is unwanted by any other club. We literally have 15 - 20 of them. Tragic club. The pathetic thing is he's not at the end of his career. He's midway through it. It's now he should rely on years of experience which he'd use to guide younger players. But when the club handed him a 4-year contract it gave him a free ride to not putting in a shift. Trust me his career at this level anyway is nearing its end. You’re right though it shouldn’t be. His performances would only ever be acceptable at our club.
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Post by jokker on Feb 4, 2024 17:43:07 GMT
The pathetic thing is he's not at the end of his career. He's midway through it. It's now he should rely on years of experience which he'd use to guide younger players. But when the club handed him a 4-year contract it gave him a free ride to not putting in a shift. Trust me his career at this level anyway is nearing its end. You’re right though it shouldn’t be. His performances would only ever be acceptable at our club. As I said when his new contract was announced, it was a big mistake, partly because he no longer has any desire, but especially because he has no resale value, which means that a four year contract will be a millstone around our necks for the 4 years, now 3½, to come. And not to congratulate myself, because I wish I had been wrong, but the comment then - which angered many - was appropriate.
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Post by mrcoke on Feb 5, 2024 9:04:28 GMT
I was very enthusiastic with his signing last season, just the sort of player we needed at the time.
Why his form has dropped is anyone's guess. Personal problem, his form has gone (some player's form just falls off a cliff), he went into "retirement" when he signed his last big contract, ? Who knows?
Don't think we should think too much about him being hooked at half time. He was picked to boost the MF against Leicester to try and stop being overrun. But it didn't work and we needed to score goals in the second half, to which he contributes nothing.
My theory is he is jealous at all the adulation Burger is getting and Burger getting the captaincy. We saw it with Adam under Lambert, when the team were instructed to always give the ball to Shaqiri. Interesting theory. But Burger didn't grab the captaincy from Perason. Pearson lost it through poor performances and suspension, before Burger showed responsibility within the team, as one of...I don't really know who else ! I don't disagree with you, but Burger didn't grab the captaincy; he earned it. My theory is (just a theory) that Pearson may feel " I was here first, a getting stuck in last season, and turned the club's performances last February, but a new comer has jumped over me". I'm not excusing his loss of form, just looking for reasons.
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Post by jokker on Feb 5, 2024 9:23:05 GMT
Interesting theory. But Burger didn't grab the captaincy from Perason. Pearson lost it through poor performances and suspension, before Burger showed responsibility within the team, as one of...I don't really know who else ! I don't disagree with you, but Burger didn't grab the captaincy; he earned it. My theory is (just a theory) that Pearson may feel " I was here first, a getting stuck in last season, and turned the club's performances last February, but a new comer has jumped over me". I'm not excusing his loss of form, just looking for reasons. That's more or less what I said. As for your theory I think you're giving Pearson too much credit. He just decided that with a four year contract in hand, he didn't need to put in a shift. And he hasn't. Of course he also thought he had AN sussed, but now he could really be looking at 3½ years in a solitary bomb squad.
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