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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 4, 2024 20:55:16 GMT
Was you accepting of all the dirge we watched then over the years when you turned up week in week out? No one is happy with what’s going off this season or since relegation but it’s in people’s blood and you only have to look at the following next Saturday to Blackburn to see this. Would we have 3000+ going Blackburn if tickets were on Sale starting tomorrow.. Fans can hand them back anytime they want this week if they want mate and get their money back so it’ll be interesting to see if many do
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 4, 2024 20:59:54 GMT
Was you accepting of all the dirge we watched then over the years when you turned up week in week out? No one is happy with what’s going off this season or since relegation but it’s in people’s blood and you only have to look at the following next Saturday to Blackburn to see this. Good question, but I felt a connection then, and for me that's what its all about. I've never felt mire distant from my club, and that's with me having a kid there for a decade. I get that connection and fun at Leek now. I still love SCFC, and that's why I post....I don't want to see it drop to the third tier, but if folk don't start holding thus club to account, it will. Maybe you’ve just grown out of it with your personel circumstances also but for the likes of myself I will always go to home games whilst I can but that’s what I do and I’d imagine thousands of other supporters will also. When you say hold them to account what do you suggest folk do then?
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Post by tuum on Feb 4, 2024 21:01:20 GMT
The fans do turn though and the players recognise it. Ironic cheers when we pass it forward (happened earlier this season under AN), groans and the odd boo when we pass it backwards. Cheering when players are subbed off (happened a few times). Fans are understandably frustrated but venting their frustrations at the players rarely works. SS (and AN for that matter) is right. The crowd does turn as easily as the players when we go a goal down. SS and AN were also right in saying that the onus is on the players to create the atmosphere to turn it around. Yesterday, we got nothing. We were chasing shadows... and players couldn't be arsed to do even that at times. All players were guilty to a varying extent..even those who put a shift in. That has to be a worry for SS. In real life, when you get humiliated you tend to learn from it and make sure it never happens again. Not if you're a precious footballer though it seems. I don't think that is completely true. Humiliate some people and they will just dig their heels in or sulk. They may even choose to undermine you whenever the opportunity arises. I understand fans frustration and they have every right to voice their displeasure as they see fit. However, don't be surprised if it fails to galvanise some of the players. We can moan all day about the modern footballer but now is not the time to be alienating them. We need everyone pulling in the same direction. The crowd can be both a positive or negative influence.
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Post by tuum on Feb 5, 2024 3:14:36 GMT
The fans do turn though and the players recognise it. Ironic cheers when we pass it forward (happened earlier this season under AN), groans and the odd boo when we pass it backwards. Cheering when players are subbed off (happened a few times). Fans are understandably frustrated but venting their frustrations at the players rarely works. SS (and AN for that matter) is right. The crowd does turn as easily as the players when we go a goal down. SS and AN were also right in saying that the onus is on the players to create the atmosphere to turn it around. Yesterday, we got nothing. We were chasing shadows... and players couldn't be arsed to do even that at times. All players were guilty to a varying extent..even those who put a shift in. That has to be a worry for SS. Wow that’s the definition of the crowd turning how fucking tame. Yeah. We are as lame and apathetic as the players! 😁
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 5, 2024 8:11:01 GMT
True fans support there team whatever happens. You don't leave the stadium when the second goal goes in ! Embarrassing really. This whole dick measuring about true fans is always the most cuntish behaviour. I stayed til the end - a true fan! I gave the vehement abuse and booed them - a shit fan The paradox - fucking shite
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Post by tuum on Feb 5, 2024 8:32:26 GMT
True fans support there team whatever happens. You don't leave the stadium when the second goal goes in ! Embarrassing really. This whole dick measuring about true fans is always the most cuntish behaviour. I stayed til the end - a true fan! I gave the vehement abuse and booed them - a shit fan The paradox - fucking shite Agree. It's not helpful. We are all fans. We all want the club to be successful. We just have different opinions as to how to get there.
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Post by Silkystoke on Feb 5, 2024 8:46:33 GMT
We are all pissed off, but shouting and abusing the players is just a fuckin joke..!!! Of course they will just give up, why don’t you fuckas vent your anger outside the ground after the game..!!!! We don’t attract very good players anymore, we must be patient and grow slowly..!!! Seen it all before..
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 5, 2024 8:50:26 GMT
The fans are a lot calmer than Wilmot is when the ball comes into our box.
Getting told to calm down by a very poor defender who fucks up every time he plays.
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Post by flea79 on Feb 5, 2024 9:27:09 GMT
i have noticed there seems to have been a complete blackout on social media with the players!
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Post by owdestokie2 on Feb 5, 2024 9:38:25 GMT
Against Sunderland he was remonstrating with players to drop back and help (as was Burger) i.e. Gooch being left one on one with Clarke on numerous occasions. Was his wrong to do so?
I didn’t see the alleged “asking supporters” to calm down, was he being abusive, gesturing in a rude way? If not I can’t see a problem.
If a player scores and celebrates with the crowd is he wrong to so?
Football is a passionate sport for both players and supporters. Take split second examples of passion out of the game what have you got?
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Post by stokiedan17 on Feb 5, 2024 9:45:40 GMT
Against Sunderland he was remonstrating with players to drop back and help (as was Burger) i.e. Gooch being left one on one with Clarke on numerous occasions. Was his wrong to do so? I didn’t see the alleged “asking supporters” to calm down, was he being abusive, gesturing in a rude way? If not I can’t see a problem. If a player scores and celebrates with the crowd is he wrong to so? Football is a passionate sport for both players and supporters. Take split second examples of passion out of the game what have you got? To be honest I think it shows that panic in the stands can get to players on the pitch. Whilst they might have practised passing at the back and may well do it all the time in training and would normally be calm doing it we get edgy all the time when we see them do it. (Understandably so given we’ve fucked it up badly in the past) I wouldn’t take it as him being a knob I’d just take it as literally calm down we are trying. He’s not been great when he’s played in the last couple of games but I wouldn’t class him as one who doesn’t give 100%
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 5, 2024 9:47:56 GMT
Against Sunderland he was remonstrating with players to drop back and help (as was Burger) i.e. Gooch being left one on one with Clarke on numerous occasions. Was his wrong to do so? I didn’t see the alleged “asking supporters” to calm down, was he being abusive, gesturing in a rude way? If not I can’t see a problem. If a player scores and celebrates with the crowd is he wrong to so? Football is a passionate sport for both players and supporters. Take split second examples of passion out of the game what have you got? I'd love to see some passion from this shambles of a squad. Who the fuck is Wilmot (who since his return has seen us ship goals) to tell the crowd anything. I'd suggest he calms down and perhaps tell us why him and his teammates felt it was OK to lie down and have their tummy tickled by Leicester. SCFC will do nothing with John Coates in charge. He is the problem. 6 years of one terrible decision after another.
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Post by SCFC92 on Feb 5, 2024 9:50:23 GMT
We are all pissed off, but shouting and abusing the players is just a fuckin joke..!!! Of course they will just give up, why don’t you fuckas vent your anger outside the ground after the game..!!!! We don’t attract very good players anymore, we must be patient and grow slowly..!!! Seen it all before.. And therein lies the problem with the modern game. They're paid an absolute wheelbarrow of cash every single week, they're supposed to be professionals. Yet it seems that some bad reviews from a section of supporters who have paid their hard earned cash (that doesn't come in wheelbarrows) to take some respite from the humdrum of working life means they switch off and down tools. No, Wilmot is not right to have a go back at the fans, we are seeing it more from players kicking off back. If the shouting is around criticism (i.e. you're fucking wank) and not abuse (i.e. hateful comments about a players character family etc there is no space for abuse in any form). Then you can take it on the chin and move on, because newsflash Stoke, you're playing fucking wank!
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Post by owdestokie2 on Feb 5, 2024 10:49:27 GMT
Against Sunderland he was remonstrating with players to drop back and help (as was Burger) i.e. Gooch being left one on one with Clarke on numerous occasions. Was his wrong to do so? I didn’t see the alleged “asking supporters” to calm down, was he being abusive, gesturing in a rude way? If not I can’t see a problem. If a player scores and celebrates with the crowd is he wrong to so? Football is a passionate sport for both players and supporters. Take split second examples of passion out of the game what have you got? I'd love to see some passion from this shambles of a squad. Who the fuck is Wilmot (who since his return has seen us ship goals) to tell the crowd anything. I'd suggest he calms down and perhaps tell us why him and his teammates felt it was OK to lie down and have their tummy tickled by Leicester. SCFC will do nothing with John Coates in charge. He is the problem. 6 years of one terrible decision after another. A play on words to create an aggressive post…...” who the fuck” is Wilmot to “ tell” the crowd. I’ve said I didn’t see the alleged incident. I don’t suppose an alternative could be that Wilmot was “ asking” the crowd. That alternative may not fit the narrative of this thread. I’m at a loss why there’s a comment about Johnathon Coates on a post about Wilmot……but hey ho
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 5, 2024 11:00:09 GMT
I'd love to see some passion from this shambles of a squad. Who the fuck is Wilmot (who since his return has seen us ship goals) to tell the crowd anything. I'd suggest he calms down and perhaps tell us why him and his teammates felt it was OK to lie down and have their tummy tickled by Leicester. SCFC will do nothing with John Coates in charge. He is the problem. 6 years of one terrible decision after another. A play on words to create an aggressive post…...” who the fuck” is Wilmot to “ tell” the crowd. I’ve said I didn’t see the alleged incident. I don’t suppose an alternative could be that Wilmot was “ asking” the crowd. That alternative may not fit the narrative of this thread. I’m at a loss why there’s a comment about Johnathon Coates on a post about Wilmot……but hey ho He's in no position to 'ask' the crowd anything. He's a poor footballer who, along with others, is stealing a living from SCFC. Because JC is the architect of all that is happening. His terrible decisions lead to what happens on the pitch resulting in players 'asking' the crowd to calm down. It's embarrassing and insulting. We're an absolute shambles and are heading for the 3rd tier unless StS can perform a miracle and get these footballers to grind out half a dozen wins.
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Post by dutchstokie on Feb 5, 2024 11:05:43 GMT
I'd say that if you pay the entrance money then you're as much of a supporter as anyone else. No. That's when you are a paying customer. Supporting is sticking behind the team through thick, and currently mostly, thin. You mean " Bonnie Langford thin" or " Amy Whinehouse thin"...the latter is more appropriate at the moment I feel
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Post by jokker on Feb 5, 2024 11:41:00 GMT
No. That's when you are a paying customer. Supporting is sticking behind the team through thick, and currently mostly, thin. You mean " Bonnie Langford thin" or " Amy Whinehouse thin"...the latter is more appropriate at the moment I feel I don't know the first one, and while I feel sorry for Amy, I never really liked her . I think Stoke have a little bit of fat left to combat all the bumps in the road.
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Post by chamberlain on Feb 5, 2024 11:45:33 GMT
True fans support there team whatever happens. You don't leave the stadium when the second goal goes in ! Embarrassing really. This whole dick measuring about true fans is always the most cuntish behaviour. I stayed til the end - a true fan! I gave the vehement abuse and booed them - a shit fan The paradox - fucking shite If you put money into Stoke City Football Club you are a supporter end of.
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Post by HarryTheHat on Feb 5, 2024 12:10:05 GMT
Against Sunderland he was remonstrating with players to drop back and help (as was Burger) i.e. Gooch being left one on one with Clarke on numerous occasions. Was his wrong to do so? I didn’t see the alleged “asking supporters” to calm down, was he being abusive, gesturing in a rude way? If not I can’t see a problem. If a player scores and celebrates with the crowd is he wrong to so? Football is a passionate sport for both players and supporters. Take split second examples of passion out of the game what have you got? He's also one of the few that plays like he genuinely cares (hence the recent injury) - but there's a certain group on here that like to scapegoat him for everything and will take any opportunity to do so. He's not the world's best centre half by any stretch but he's the best one we have (and also the youngest)
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Post by iglugluk on Feb 5, 2024 12:23:50 GMT
People react.. players are people too, regardless of what they're being paid. Same goes for crowds as they're just alot of people gathered in one place.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Feb 5, 2024 12:25:43 GMT
People react.. players are people too, regardless of what they're being paid. Same goes for crowds as they're just alot of people gathered in one place. Thank you for explaining what a crowd is. I would’ve struggled with the concept otherwise.
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Post by iglugluk on Feb 5, 2024 12:27:54 GMT
People react.. players are people too, regardless of what they're being paid. Same goes for crowds as they're just alot of people gathered in one place. Thank you for explaining what a crowd is. I would’ve struggled with the concept otherwise. You're welcome..
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Post by Fred Merger on Feb 5, 2024 12:28:50 GMT
Wilmot and Campbell should both be dropped after that performance on Saturday as well as Hoever and Bonham!
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Post by PotteringThrough on Feb 5, 2024 12:30:01 GMT
Thank you for explaining what a crowd is. I would’ve struggled with the concept otherwise. You're welcome.. It tickled me for some reason. Very well explained though.
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Post by iglugluk on Feb 5, 2024 12:33:39 GMT
You're welcome.. It tickled me for some reason. Very well explained though. Thanks, I'm glad you didn't feel genuinely patronised as that was definitely not my intention, mate.
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