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Post by atillathehoneybee on Feb 2, 2024 18:30:06 GMT
Sentenced and named today.
Words escape me as to what these evil monsters became, did the system fail them , were they vulnerable, or just pure evil.
Similar in many ways to the Jamie Bulger case 30 years ago.
Through all of this I have to admire Briannah's mum, such dignity and composure.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 2, 2024 18:41:06 GMT
22 and 20 yearsđĄ
WTF is up with the justice system in this country
Stabbed 28 times
They should never see the light of day in my opinion and if I had my way theyâd go the same way as that bastard in Nottingham and be sentenced to death
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Post by felonious on Feb 2, 2024 18:49:27 GMT
22 and 20 yearsđĄ WTF is up with justice system in this country Stabbed 28 times They should never see the light of day in my opinion and if I had my way theyâd go the same way as that bastard in Nottingham and be sentenced to death There were other potential victims on the list as well. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 2, 2024 18:56:52 GMT
22 and 20 yearsđĄ WTF is up with justice system in this country Stabbed 28 times They should never see the light of day in my opinion and if I had my way theyâd go the same way as that bastard in Nottingham and be sentenced to death There were other potential victims on the list as well. Yes she made a new one since being locked up apparentlyđ¤ˇââď¸beggars belief |
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Post by milton58 on Feb 2, 2024 19:10:38 GMT
Judge should have said you can go now let jo public deal with them ..we will just pay thousands and thousands of pounds each week keeping them safe in prison will be kept well away from other prisoners abit like that twat west
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Post by Northy on Feb 2, 2024 19:56:35 GMT
There were other potential victims on the list as well. Yes she made a new one since being locked up apparentlyđ¤ˇââď¸beggars belief No, there was a list in case they couldn't get Briannah |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 2, 2024 19:57:51 GMT
Yes she made a new one since being locked up apparentlyđ¤ˇââď¸beggars belief No, there was a list in case they couldn't get Briannah Yes I heard that mate but our local news tonight said sheâd made another since being locked up |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 2, 2024 20:00:40 GMT
Internet and social media ruining young peoples lives again.
Itâll only get worse
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Post by maninasuitcase on Feb 2, 2024 20:27:10 GMT
22 and 20 yearsđĄ WTF is up with the justice system in this country Stabbed 28 times They should never see the light of day in my opinion and if I had my way theyâd go the same way as that bastard in Nottingham and be sentenced to death They should be on the end of a fucking rope. Cunts. |
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Feb 2, 2024 20:36:13 GMT
No, there was a list in case they couldn't get Briannah Yes I heard that mate but our local news tonight said sheâd made another since being locked up That's what I heard. The list was her carers and social workers whilst she was awaiting sentencing. Fookin nut job. By all accounts she orchestrated the whole thing and got the lad involved, who was seemingly vulnerable and easily manipulated. |
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Post by Veritas on Feb 2, 2024 20:53:46 GMT
I fully understand the debate about the sentence but exactly what good has naming them done?
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Feb 2, 2024 21:04:06 GMT
I fully understand the debate about the sentence but exactly what good has naming them done? It's so the lynch mob can harrass their families. |
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Post by swampmongrel on Feb 2, 2024 21:05:53 GMT
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Post by Veritas on Feb 2, 2024 21:08:02 GMT
Makes absolutely no sense to me |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 2, 2024 21:08:42 GMT
I fully understand the debate about the sentence but exactly what good has naming them done? Youâre right. They will get pseudo names on release anyway because our justice system is a disgrace. They will be free to live their lives at around 30 odd and no fucker will know that these cunts are cold blooded killers. They should be hung. Deal with crimes that have zero defence and start to clear our prisons. |
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Post by swampmongrel on Feb 2, 2024 21:14:14 GMT
Makes absolutely no sense to me I donât really have an opinion but I think the argument is that their names are already in the public domain anyway so the general public might as well know. |
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Post by Veritas on Feb 2, 2024 21:34:27 GMT
I fully understand the debate about the sentence but exactly what good has naming them done? Youâre right. They will get pseudo names on release anyway because our justice system is a disgrace. They will be free to live their lives at around 30 odd and no fucker will know that these cunts are cold blooded killers. They should be hung. Deal with crimes that have zero defence and start to clear our prisons. We agree on the pointlessness of naming them but I disagree with you on every other point. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 2, 2024 21:35:44 GMT
Youâre right. They will get pseudo names on release anyway because our justice system is a disgrace. They will be free to live their lives at around 30 odd and no fucker will know that these cunts are cold blooded killers. They should be hung. Deal with crimes that have zero defence and start to clear our prisons. We agree on the pointlessness of naming them but I disagree with you on every other point. Why? |
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Post by Veritas on Feb 2, 2024 21:37:00 GMT
Makes absolutely no sense to me I donât really have an opinion but I think the argument is that their names are already in the public domain anyway so the general public might as well know. But why do I need to know or dome geezer in Penzance? This just gives the green light to a feeding frenzy by the press. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 2, 2024 21:41:45 GMT
I donât really have an opinion but I think the argument is that their names are already in the public domain anyway so the general public might as well know. But why do I need to know or dome geezer in Penzance? This just gives the green light to a feeding frenzy by the press. Yep itâs all about the press |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 2, 2024 21:43:37 GMT
The point about the families of these scumbags is a good one. Iâm guessing it was pretty much common knowledge among the community but now their kids have been named their life wonât be pleasant for sure and you have to ask, is that right?
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Post by xchpotter on Feb 2, 2024 22:14:35 GMT
Found this case quite upsetting, more so than others for some reason. That poor kid, so vulnerable and trusting not knowing these assholes weâre going to kill her. I truly despair at some of the shite out there đ
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Post by Scouse on Feb 2, 2024 22:52:11 GMT
Followed the case as the same judge who dealt with the Olivia Pratt-Korbel case ..as YIP is a highly respected High court judge from Liverpool , from an equally highly respected Liverpool legal family ..her father was a court of appeal judge , who I believe dealt with and dismissed the posthumous appeal of Ruth Ellis
Difficult to know , but id say at least one if not both were pure evil , possibly the girl , and the lad possibly used a little .. though the sentences are very similar ..interestingly not full life terms ..though of course the minimum doesnât necessarily mean theyâll come out then .
Her evilness was perhaps illustrated by her confession to the Dr after the verdict rather than before or during the case and her change of story to perhaps closer to the truth .. or was that her attempting to remain in her eyes in full control of the situation even when found guilty , it seems some categories of killers take pleasure from the controlling aspect , which includes their victims , including the victims family after the event .. rather than an attempt to save their own necks
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Post by willieeetmiout on Feb 2, 2024 23:06:00 GMT
I fully understand the debate about the sentence but exactly what good has naming them done? Youâre right. They will get pseudo names on release anyway because our justice system is a disgrace. They will be free to live their lives at around 30 odd and no fucker will know that these cunts are cold blooded killers. They should be hung. Deal with crimes that have zero defence and start to clear our prisons. You honestly think that girl is ever getting out? From what we have heard shes got a long way to go to persuade a parole board she is no longer a danger to society. |
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Post by willieeetmiout on Feb 2, 2024 23:11:28 GMT
Followed the case as the same judge who dealt with the Olivia Pratt-Korbel case ..as YIP is a highly respected High court judge from Liverpool , from an equally highly respected Liverpool legal family ..her father was a court of appeal judge , who I believe dealt with and dismissed the posthumous appeal of Ruth Ellis Difficult to know , but id say at least one if not both were pure evil , possibly the girl , and the lad possibly used a little .. though the sentences are very similar ..interestingly not full life terms ..though of course the minimum doesnât necessarily mean theyâll  come out then . Her evilness was perhaps illustrated by her confession to the Dr after the verdict rather than before or during the case and her change of story to perhaps closer to the truth .. or was that her attempting to remain in her eyes in full control of the situation even when found guilty  , it seems some categories of killers take pleasure from the controlling aspect , which includes their victims , including the victims family after the event  .. rather than an attempt to save their own necks  They were never going to get whole life orders because they aren't available to understand 18s and rightly so. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 2, 2024 23:17:34 GMT
Youâre right. They will get pseudo names on release anyway because our justice system is a disgrace. They will be free to live their lives at around 30 odd and no fucker will know that these cunts are cold blooded killers. They should be hung. Deal with crimes that have zero defence and start to clear our prisons. You honestly think that girl is ever getting out? From what we have heard shes got a long way to go to persuade a parole board she is no longer a danger to society. Ok |
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Post by Scouse on Feb 2, 2024 23:26:52 GMT
Followed the case as the same judge who dealt with the Olivia Pratt-Korbel case ..as YIP is a highly respected High court judge from Liverpool , from an equally highly respected Liverpool legal family ..her father was a court of appeal judge , who I believe dealt with and dismissed the posthumous appeal of Ruth Ellis Difficult to know , but id say at least one if not both were pure evil , possibly the girl , and the lad possibly used a little .. though the sentences are very similar ..interestingly not full life terms ..though of course the minimum doesnât necessarily mean theyâll come out then . Her evilness was perhaps illustrated by her confession to the Dr after the verdict rather than before or during the case and her change of story to perhaps closer to the truth .. or was that her attempting to remain in her eyes in full control of the situation even when found guilty , it seems some categories of killers take pleasure from the controlling aspect , which includes their victims , including the victims family after the event .. rather than an attempt to save their own necks They were never going to get whole life orders because they aren't available to understand 18s and rightly so. Fair enough ..in the case of u18s is the equivalent indeterminate sentence (detention in HMP pleasure ) This is the full transcript of the judges sentencing decision ..so 30+ as a the starting point for an adult ? www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/every-word-judge-said-sentencing-28561055https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/every-word-judge-said-sentencing-28561055 |
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Post by willieeetmiout on Feb 2, 2024 23:39:05 GMT
As they are under 18 they can only receive what they received which is a life sentence (indeterminate) with a determinate period of 20 and 22 years in this case. I can see the young lad being released after his 20 years or so. I can't see the female ever being released. |
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Post by knype on Feb 3, 2024 6:43:41 GMT
Youâre right. They will get pseudo names on release anyway because our justice system is a disgrace. They will be free to live their lives at around 30 odd and no fucker will know that these cunts are cold blooded killers. They should be hung. Deal with crimes that have zero defence and start to clear our prisons. You honestly think that girl is ever getting out? From what we have heard shes got a long way to go to persuade a parole board she is no longer a danger to society. She'll be out alright |
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Post by knype on Feb 3, 2024 6:44:33 GMT
Followed the case as the same judge who dealt with the Olivia Pratt-Korbel case ..as YIP is a highly respected High court judge from Liverpool , from an equally highly respected Liverpool legal family ..her father was a court of appeal judge , who I believe dealt with and dismissed the posthumous appeal of Ruth Ellis Difficult to know , but id say at least one if not both were pure evil , possibly the girl , and the lad possibly used a little .. though the sentences are very similar ..interestingly not full life terms ..though of course the minimum doesnât necessarily mean theyâll  come out then . Her evilness was perhaps illustrated by her confession to the Dr after the verdict rather than before or during the case and her change of story to perhaps closer to the truth .. or was that her attempting to remain in her eyes in full control of the situation even when found guilty  , it seems some categories of killers take pleasure from the controlling aspect , which includes their victims , including the victims family after the event  .. rather than an attempt to save their own necks  They were never going to get whole life orders because they aren't available to understand 18s and rightly so. Why rightly so? In my opinion they both should be sentenced to death |
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