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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 2, 2024 15:11:04 GMT
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Post by bolders on Feb 2, 2024 15:16:32 GMT
That probably goes for most champ clubs at the moment though |
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Post by a on Feb 2, 2024 15:17:27 GMT
Remind me again please, who did we sell from the first team? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2024 15:18:01 GMT
So we did try to push Mmaee out when he didn’t want to go?
What a mess.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 2, 2024 15:18:12 GMT
Mmaae wanted to stay,but will he put the effort in knowing we tried to sell him?!
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Feb 2, 2024 15:20:01 GMT
Pressure on Tricky? 🤔
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 2, 2024 15:22:38 GMT
That probably goes for most champ clubs at the moment though Yeah. Not really surprising. Corresponds to about 4 or 5 untouchables, and I think we could name them pretty quickly. The rest are probably only passing through really and aren't long-term building blocks. The Mmaee stuff is interesting though, and you've got to ask questions about how it'll impact on his motivation - and it's not really helpful to have stuff like this aired publicly, you'd think |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 2, 2024 15:23:46 GMT
I'd suggest the 80% figure is a bit high but not really something we didn't know. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 2, 2024 15:26:05 GMT
That’ll motivate them for the rest of the season🙄
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 2, 2024 15:29:52 GMT
That’ll motivate them for the rest of the season🙄 They can all pretend they were part of the 20% - apart from Mmaee and Tyrese! |
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Post by theonlooker on Feb 2, 2024 15:30:00 GMT
Shades of Moxey and Brum 97'
Great.
Interesting Plymouth were interested in a loan for Mmaee, who are apparently still overseen by Neil Dewsnip who was credited with a lot for his work with Schumacher.
Hmmm....
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Post by wuzza on Feb 2, 2024 15:31:38 GMT
Been reading this sort of stuff constantly for the past few days - why are we desperate to sell players ? ...... and how the hell are you supposed to motivate a group that is seemingly being made aware their employers would rather they weren’t here ?
All very odd.
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Post by rowleyscfc on Feb 2, 2024 15:32:02 GMT
That’ll motivate them for the rest of the season🙄 Well you either crumble or rise, maybe its the kick up the arse he needed? he's said he wants to stay and prove his worth so id argue that's a positive sign that he's not going go out with a wimper |
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 2, 2024 15:32:15 GMT
Total non-story. Name me a Championship club where that is not the case? The clue is in the phrase ‘the right price’ . Who would that not apply to? Ridiculous journalism. |
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Post by SCFC92 on Feb 2, 2024 15:35:10 GMT
Total non-story. Name me a Championship club where that is not the case? The clue is in the phrase ‘the right price’ . Who would that not apply to? Ridiculous journalism. Agreed. What a load of utter shite. Any player at any club is available at "the right price" and that is especially true in championship clubs wrestling with the farcical fuckery of FFP. Bollocks story that is designed as a weird form of click-bait, that no doubt will be lapped up. Lazy arse journalism after one of the quietest ends to a transfer window in recent memory. Fuck off. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 2, 2024 15:43:07 GMT
Shades of Moxey and Brum 97' Great. Interesting Plymouth were interested in a loan for Mmaee, who are apparently still overseen by Neil Dewsnip who was credited with a lot for his work with Schumacher. Hmmm.... We have to hope that Dewsnip wasn’t as important to Schumacher as Harford was to Jones |
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Post by baconburger on Feb 2, 2024 15:43:42 GMT
Total non-story. Name me a Championship club where that is not the case? The clue is in the phrase ‘the right price’ . Who would that not apply to? Ridiculous journalism. Yup the only question being who is in the 20% and why aren’t they available at the right price. There shouldn’t be any untouchables, assess their peak value and if that’s met Adios. It’s been emotional. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Feb 2, 2024 15:45:40 GMT
Total non-story. Name me a Championship club where that is not the case? The clue is in the phrase ‘the right price’ . Who would that not apply to? Ridiculous journalism. Agreed. What a load of utter shite. Any player at any club is available at "the right price" and that is especially true in championship clubs wrestling with the farcical fuckery of FFP. Bollocks story that is designed as a weird form of click-bait, that no doubt will be lapped up. Lazy arse journalism after one of the quietest ends to a transfer window in recent memory. Fuck off. For sure What player isn't available at the right price at any club ? |
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 2, 2024 15:51:08 GMT
Let’s face it, unless you are the league’s top scorer playing in a team that’s pushing for promotion, you are available at the right price.
For Stoke (as in all teams), there are only a few players whose value may skyrocket versus what they would get if they sold them now.
Selling players isn’t a marker of a poor signing.
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Post by jeycov on Feb 2, 2024 15:53:04 GMT
Mmaae wanted to stay,but will he put the effort in knowing we tried to sell him?! I hope so I also hope players will be selected on merit so no reason to exclude him if he wants to play |
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Post by Rick Grimes on Feb 2, 2024 15:55:37 GMT
Total non-story. Name me a Championship club where that is not the case? The clue is in the phrase ‘the right price’ . Who would that not apply to? Ridiculous journalism. Yup the only question being who is in the 20% and why aren’t they available at the right price. There shouldn’t be any untouchables, assess their peak value and if that’s met Adios. It’s been emotional. Everyone is available for the right price aren’t they. The few ‘untouchables’ the article is referring to will just be players that the fans would be upset if they were sold and are actually good enough that we want them to stay where possible so Burger, Bae, Junior. The rest of the squad fall into the ‘meh’ category for me where it wouldn’t bother me at all if they did leave. |
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Post by iglugluk on Feb 2, 2024 15:58:57 GMT
Let’s face it, unless you are the league’s top scorer playing in a team that’s pushing for promotion, you are available at the right price. For Stoke (as in all teams), there are only a few players whose value may skyrocket versus what they would get if they sold them now. Selling players isn’t a marker of a poor signing. Very true.. the proviso to that being selling at a loss after they have only been here for half a season. I would also say, if they were being 'touted around' then that is very different to being 'in demand', as an additional qualification. |
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Post by pushon on Feb 2, 2024 16:07:13 GMT
Mmaae wanted to stay,but will he put the effort in knowing we tried to sell him?! Maybe it'll be a boot up the backside and he'll start to show some effort at last🤔 |
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 2, 2024 16:14:09 GMT
Let’s face it, unless you are the league’s top scorer playing in a team that’s pushing for promotion, you are available at the right price. For Stoke (as in all teams), there are only a few players whose value may skyrocket versus what they would get if they sold them now. Selling players isn’t a marker of a poor signing. Very true.. the proviso to that being selling at a loss after the have only been here for half a season. I would also say, if they were being 'touted around' then that is very different to being 'in demand', as an additional qualification. I think it just rings of bollocks though. If Stoke had engaged in something that was deemed unusual, I think that more than Teamtalk would have come out with it. I’d be shocked if we sent a memo to every club saying our entire squad is available on the cheap if you want one. |
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Post by jokker on Feb 2, 2024 16:14:24 GMT
Mmaae wanted to stay,but will he put the effort in knowing we tried to sell him?! He'll be out to prove the doubters wrong, which is to our advantage. |
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 2, 2024 16:14:55 GMT
Yup the only question being who is in the 20% and why aren’t they available at the right price. There shouldn’t be any untouchables, assess their peak value and if that’s met Adios. It’s been emotional. Everyone is available for the right price aren’t they. The few ‘untouchables’ the article is referring to will just be players that the fans would be upset if they were sold and are actually good enough that we want them to stay where possible so Burger, Bae, Junior. The rest of the squad fall into the ‘meh’ category for me where it wouldn’t bother me at all if they did leave. 100% of the players would be available at the right price. Do we really think if someone came in with a £30m bid for Burger we would turn them down? |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 2, 2024 16:16:37 GMT
The realities of FFP.
The fact that we turned money down for Campbell suggests we're still on the right side of it, but ultimately everyone is available for the right deal and it's a constant juggling act..........
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Post by jokker on Feb 2, 2024 16:18:07 GMT
Yup the only question being who is in the 20% and why aren’t they available at the right price. There shouldn’t be any untouchables, assess their peak value and if that’s met Adios. It’s been emotional. Everyone is available for the right price aren’t they. The few ‘untouchables’ the article is referring to will just be players that the fans would be upset if they were sold and are actually good enough that we want them to stay where possible so Burger, Bae, Junior. The rest of the squad fall into the ‘meh’ category for me where it wouldn’t bother me at all if they did leave. The rest of the 20% would be players we are not entitled to sell, i.e. players on loan that belong to other clubs. |
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Feb 2, 2024 16:19:48 GMT
Mmaae wanted to stay,but will he put the effort in knowing we tried to sell him?! Would we notice if he didn't? I'm not convinced Lowe is ready, but he absolutely can't do any worse than Mmaee has done, so far. I'd be tempted to start Lowe and see what that brings. |
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Post by iglugluk on Feb 2, 2024 16:19:59 GMT
Very true.. the proviso to that being selling at a loss after the have only been here for half a season. I would also say, if they were being 'touted around' then that is very different to being 'in demand', as an additional qualification. I think it just rings of bollocks though. If Stoke had engaged in something that was deemed unusual, I think that more than Teamtalk would have come out with it. I’d be shocked if we sent a memo to every club saying our entire squad is available on the cheap if you want one. Yeah I agree,the article does have the smell of negative 'click bait' around it.. although there were other reports implying Mmaee was potentially being offered up, no? Mind you it's not unusual I wouldn't have thought that a Club make players available via the grapevine when they need to bring in new personnel and the ridiculous FFP restrictions are negatively affecting them. |
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