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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2024 16:00:22 GMT
Is there a chance the track could bend?
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jan 27, 2024 16:01:52 GMT
Is there a chance the track could bend? Ogdenville and North Haverbrook are doing fine
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Post by Gob Bluth on Jan 27, 2024 16:10:48 GMT
A massive kiln pot over the top of the stadium that shoots a laser out.
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Post by starkiller on Jan 27, 2024 16:11:10 GMT
Can we take seats out, so there's more legroom?
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jan 27, 2024 16:27:59 GMT
The stadium needs a visit from Mr Semtex, Mr JCB and Mr Caterpillar.
Once its been flattened and cleared we can then rebuild it so it actually resembles a stadium instead of some cheap brieze bloke monstrosity.
One with bottle kilns in each corner with viewing platforms and better access/public transport, bigger concourses, heated seats, retractable roof, retractable pitch, etc, etc
....wakes up.... and realises it was a dream ....πππ
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Post by spiderpuss on Jan 27, 2024 16:59:41 GMT
After today's result we might need to consider stadium reduction.
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Post by TheBra1n on Jan 27, 2024 16:59:49 GMT
i seem to remember that the tile mountain or whatever is called this week was designed to have the roof removed and a second tier added, of course its been 28 years and I'm getting on a bit
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 27, 2024 17:05:37 GMT
it's been improved a bit but it's still a bastard to get to, bloody freezing and the concourses primitive and inhospitable..... I see all these as positives!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2024 17:25:47 GMT
May as well get the squad to do the building work, they canβt play football any howβs!
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Post by glpotter on Jan 27, 2024 17:29:14 GMT
Not sure how a stadium expansion can be mentioned when we canβt even fill the current one anywhere close to its capacity
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Post by march4 on Jan 27, 2024 17:34:20 GMT
Not sure how a stadium expansion can be mentioned when we canβt even fill the current one anywhere close to its capacity I think a restyling is the order of the day. It is plenty big enough apart from the concourse areas.
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Post by mcw on Jan 27, 2024 17:36:38 GMT
If we were to see premier league within 5 years time and start to pull in <30,000 crowds regularly then digging down to get us to 38,000 would allow very large away followings to fill the missing seats.the Stadium would look top notch and some of those extra visitors would hopefully stay in the city overnight and invest in the pubs,restaurants etc I think most away fans inclination is to get out of Stoke as soon as they can once a game has finishedβ¦.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 27, 2024 17:40:23 GMT
anyone mentioned a train station yet πππ Indeed what's the point in extending a stadium that's so far away from the station anyway? What we need to do, is getting move on a realistic project once and for all ... The Coates family are so rich, that they could easily afford to compulsory purchase a few hundred terraced houses in Shelton, knock them all down and build a 40k capacity stadium (with heated seats), right next to the station, which will finally represent the size of club we truly are!
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Post by J-Roar on Jan 27, 2024 17:42:34 GMT
The stadium in my opinion looks fantastic now the new additions and improvements really are coming along nicely. It got me thinking if we ever decided to extend again would it be possible to dig downwards to create about another 8 to 10 rows adding approx 8 thousand more seats? There is so much space around the pitch side and bringing it all closer to the stands could create a more inhospitable atmosphere akin to the vic. Is this even possible given the bowl shape between the 3 already joined stands ?? Point 1 - the stadium capacity can be increased by about 5K by putting seats in the two corners which currently don't have any and that would get the capacity to about 35K and would be the cheapest option. Point 2 - unless the roofs of the stands were also extended forwards, the 8 to 10 rows of seats you suggest are created at the front would be exposed to the elements when it rained - which it often does in Stoke. Point 3 - under the existing pitch (about a metre below pitch level) is a collection area for water (both rain and sprayed) which falls on the pitch - the water is then stored and recycled. I suspect that if the pitch was dropped to accommodate the 8 to 10 new rows of seats, the water collection area would have to be dropped by the same amount that the pitch would have to be dropped. So points 2 and 3 suggest that your 8-10 new rows of seats would not be cheap when you consider the extra building works involving the roof and the water collection area. It might be simpler to extend the Boothen end upwards and put a new roof on it. Final point, we don't need any more seats. We've never been able to fill the ones we have had since the corner was built. It's a red elephant that was built when the board kidded themselves that we'd cracked it and would be in the Premier league forever.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jan 27, 2024 17:44:10 GMT
It needs one of them wembley arch things Instead of an arch though a big fuck off oatcake.
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Post by satoshi on Jan 27, 2024 17:46:37 GMT
It needs one of them wembley arch things Instead of an arch though a big fuck off oatcake. A giant turd would do it. Dried obviously.
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Post by ashleyscfc on Jan 27, 2024 18:27:03 GMT
The ground needs quality of life and character improvements at this point.
- Get the fanzone finished - extend concourse outwards and create βoutside concourseβ - fix the PA system - add a βhotel/museumβ above the dressing room area - add railway platforms down on WCML - some gates added and move the banks statue outside the main entrance - wind breaks added to the scoreboard corner - improve the food - road layout around the ground improved - New pedestrian tunnels/bridges added to segregate from traffic (see Coventry) - places added for flags etc inside the ground - safe standing added to part of the boothen
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Post by xchpotter on Jan 27, 2024 18:40:36 GMT
Been to Brightonβs Amex a little while ago and had a walk around (not match day). For a newish stadium built in the middle of nowhere it did seem to have some nice touches we could consider. The club shop was very well set up with about a dozen tills so never a queue I imagine, there was a nice memorial garden for fans who had passed away and lots of banners, quizzes on player identities for kids and a huge turning circle for cars which had the seagulls badge painted on the road. Just little things but it seemed well thought out with a lot of creativity and generally fresh.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jan 27, 2024 18:45:04 GMT
Point 1 - the stadium capacity can be increased by about 5K by putting seats in the two corners which currently don't have any and that would get the capacity to about 35K and would be the cheapest option. Point 2 - unless the roofs of the stands were also extended forwards, the 8 to 10 rows of seats you suggest are created at the front would be exposed to the elements when it rained - which it often does in Stoke. Point 3 - under the existing pitch (about a metre below pitch level) is a collection area for water (both rain and sprayed) which falls on the pitch - the water is then stored and recycled. I suspect that if the pitch was dropped to accommodate the 8 to 10 new rows of seats, the water collection area would have to be dropped by the same amount that the pitch would have to be dropped. So points 2 and 3 suggest that your 8-10 new rows of seats would not be cheap when you consider the extra building works involving the roof and the water collection area. It might be simpler to extend the Boothen end upwards and put a new roof on it. Final point, we don't need any more seats. We've never been able to fill the ones we have had since the corner was built. It's a red elephant that was built when the board kidded themselves that we'd cracked it and would be in the Premier league forever. I don't remember them claiming that Is about the right size now as a high enough capacity for the biggest of games we could hope to play in the future
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Post by wilcopotter on Jan 27, 2024 18:50:33 GMT
Moving the away fans to the other side of the South Stand and having Stoke fans behind both goals and by the tunnel would be better imo.
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Post by stokeranger on Jan 28, 2024 11:43:13 GMT
Moving the away fans to the other side of the South Stand and having Stoke fans behind both goals and by the tunnel would be better imo. The only thing we need is safe standing in the boothen end, to get some atmosphere back.. but knowing Stoke we will be the last ones to do it⦠oh,and getting rid of macron.
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Post by sportsman on Jan 28, 2024 11:47:08 GMT
Point 1 - the stadium capacity can be increased by about 5K by putting seats in the two corners which currently don't have any and that would get the capacity to about 35K and would be the cheapest option. Point 2 - unless the roofs of the stands were also extended forwards, the 8 to 10 rows of seats you suggest are created at the front would be exposed to the elements when it rained - which it often does in Stoke. Point 3 - under the existing pitch (about a metre below pitch level) is a collection area for water (both rain and sprayed) which falls on the pitch - the water is then stored and recycled. I suspect that if the pitch was dropped to accommodate the 8 to 10 new rows of seats, the water collection area would have to be dropped by the same amount that the pitch would have to be dropped. So points 2 and 3 suggest that your 8-10 new rows of seats would not be cheap when you consider the extra building works involving the roof and the water collection area. It might be simpler to extend the Boothen end upwards and put a new roof on it. Final point, we don't need any more seats. We've never been able to fill the ones we have had since the corner was built. It's a red elephant that was built when the board kidded themselves that we'd cracked it and would be in the Premier league forever. I think if anything the board were reluctant to do it. Years of fan pressure to do it I think was the key
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2024 12:52:37 GMT
Moving the away fans to the other side of the South Stand and having Stoke fans behind both goals and by the tunnel would be better imo. The only thing we need is safe standing in the boothen end, to get some atmosphere back.. but knowing Stoke we will be the last ones to do it⦠oh,and getting rid of macron. It would be better suited in the corner of the South Stand.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jan 28, 2024 13:55:35 GMT
The stadium needs a visit from Mr Semtex, Mr JCB and Mr Caterpillar. Once its been flattened and cleared we can then rebuild it so it actually resembles a stadium instead of some cheap brieze bloke monstrosity. One with bottle kilns in each corner with viewing platforms and better access/public transport, bigger concourses, heated seats, retractable roof, retractable pitch, etc, etc ....wakes up.... and realises it was a dream ....πππ JCB were close to bring the original stadium sponsor ironically before Britannia came along
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Post by dobber on Jan 28, 2024 15:36:37 GMT
Not that we'll ever need it, but when the stadium was built, the footings were put in to be able to build another layer onto the east stand.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jan 28, 2024 15:51:01 GMT
Not that we'll ever need it, but when the stadium was built, the footings were put in to be able to build another layer onto the east stand. Did those plans include heated seat, a roof and a train station π
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jan 28, 2024 22:29:22 GMT
The stadium in my opinion looks fantastic now the new additions and improvements really are coming along nicely. It got me thinking if we ever decided to extend again would it be possible to dig downwards to create about another 8 to 10 rows adding approx 8 thousand more seats? There is so much space around the pitch side and bringing it all closer to the stands could create a more inhospitable atmosphere akin to the vic. Is this even possible given the bowl shape between the 3 already joined stands ?? Point 1 - the stadium capacity can be increased by about 5K by putting seats in the two corners which currently don't have any and that would get the capacity to about 35K and would be the cheapest option. Point 2 - unless the roofs of the stands were also extended forwards, the 8 to 10 rows of seats you suggest are created at the front would be exposed to the elements when it rained - which it often does in Stoke. Point 3 - under the existing pitch (about a metre below pitch level) is a collection area for water (both rain and sprayed) which falls on the pitch - the water is then stored and recycled. I suspect that if the pitch was dropped to accommodate the 8 to 10 new rows of seats, the water collection area would have to be dropped by the same amount that the pitch would have to be dropped. So points 2 and 3 suggest that your 8-10 new rows of seats would not be cheap when you consider the extra building works involving the roof and the water collection area. It might be simpler to extend the Boothen end upwards and put a new roof on it. Has the water recycling been in place since the stadium was built? If so, it seems forward-thinking for the time. Manchester City have water capture at the stadium and training grounds, but I wonder how common it is.
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Post by a on Jan 28, 2024 22:39:49 GMT
Think I know where this thread is going to end up. If we dig down weβll find that Indian burial ground that the stadium was built on
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jan 29, 2024 8:47:38 GMT
Point 1 - the stadium capacity can be increased by about 5K by putting seats in the two corners which currently don't have any and that would get the capacity to about 35K and would be the cheapest option. Point 2 - unless the roofs of the stands were also extended forwards, the 8 to 10 rows of seats you suggest are created at the front would be exposed to the elements when it rained - which it often does in Stoke. Point 3 - under the existing pitch (about a metre below pitch level) is a collection area for water (both rain and sprayed) which falls on the pitch - the water is then stored and recycled. I suspect that if the pitch was dropped to accommodate the 8 to 10 new rows of seats, the water collection area would have to be dropped by the same amount that the pitch would have to be dropped. So points 2 and 3 suggest that your 8-10 new rows of seats would not be cheap when you consider the extra building works involving the roof and the water collection area. It might be simpler to extend the Boothen end upwards and put a new roof on it. Has the water recycling been in place since the stadium was built? If so, it seems forward-thinking for the time. Manchester City have water capture at the stadium and training grounds, but I wonder how common it is. Yes, I think so. I got most of my information on the pitch etc. from a video the club posted about 3 years after the stadium opened when the pitch was reseeded for the first time. The grass does not grow on soil but on a mix of horsehair and sand and this compacts over time and has to be replaced every few years at which time it is also reseeded. I would imagine that water recycling saves the club money and has probably paid for itself several times over. Most companies with high water usage are metered and pay for every drop of mains water they take. The recycling system means that everything that goes onto the pitch which is recycled does not have to be paid for when it is reused.
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Post by skip on Jan 29, 2024 9:44:42 GMT
Build a couple of wind turbines. There's enough draft up there to power the disco lights, the players showers and the hot food warming cabinets, the PA, and the cashless tills.
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