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Post by musik on Jan 18, 2024 22:38:54 GMT
What I don't get is the talking about how important it is to exercise mobility.
What does that actually mean?
If it has been bone building on a joint or on the bone itself somewhere due to an injury or disease and therefore it actually stops you from doing the supposed specific movement they tell you to - what do they expect and above all what is the goal with such exercise attempts?
Is it to make the tendons longer? The muscles longer? The ligaments longer? Or is it simply for breaking down the excess bone?
If you try to force it through by violence (perhaps with the help from the other hand) you might get a dislocated joint instead. That surely can't be the purpose!
I'm totally serious about this. Either you can or you can't do the movement, right?
How can anyone go from can't to can?
If so, how is such a thing happening?
Anyone with education in physiotherapy, medicine or the similar who can explain this?
To me mobility exercises are very good to do regularly, but they must be done in advance, before any bone building stops them. That seems logical to me.
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Post by musik on Jan 21, 2024 1:23:10 GMT
Has anyone here experience in mobility training?
I mean, I guess I'm supposed to start this training for my fractured wrist next week. But I can tell you already that I can't rotate the elbow the way I use to. I hardly can rotate it at all.
So what would happen if I did it by force? With the help of my other hand and arm or some equipment from the work shop. A new fracture?
Isn't bone just bone, so why would the mobility increase over time?
What I'm really after is the answer to the general question: what is happening anatomically during the period the mobility increases? In my case they say at least a year.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jan 21, 2024 9:41:38 GMT
Has anyone here experience in mobility training? I mean, I guess I'm supposed to start this training for my fractured wrist next week. But I can tell you already that I can't rotate the elbow the way I use to. I hardly can rotate it at all. So what would happen if I did it by force? With the help of my other hand and arm or some equipment from the work shop. A new fracture? Isn't bone just bone, so why would the mobility increase over time? What I'm really after is the answer to the general question: what is happening anatomically during the period the mobility increases? In my case they say at least a year. I can't answer specifically because I'm neither a physiotherapist nor know the details of your spelcific injury. What I do know is that having suffered a lot of back pain from running I was initially sceptical about the benefits of physiotherapy. However I decided to have a scan and took it to a reputable physio who took me through the specifics of MY injury (with diagrams and models) and explained what exercises I needed to do and how each of them impacted on the injury - both from the point if view of recovery and in terms of future injury prevention. Once explained I then viewed the activities as an investment in my welfare rather than just foing what doctor told me - and so was more motivated. My advice wiuld therefore be to not be sfraid to ask your therapist questions until you fully understand what is being asked of you and how - specifically - you will benefit. |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jan 21, 2024 10:13:00 GMT
Has anyone here experience in mobility training? I mean, I guess I'm supposed to start this training for my fractured wrist next week. But I can tell you already that I can't rotate the elbow the way I use to. I hardly can rotate it at all. So what would happen if I did it by force? With the help of my other hand and arm or some equipment from the work shop. A new fracture? Isn't bone just bone, so why would the mobility increase over time? What I'm really after is the answer to the general question: what is happening anatomically during the period the mobility increases? In my case they say at least a year. I can't answer specifically because I'm neither a physiotherapist nor know the details of your spelcific injury. What I do know is that having suffered a lot of back pain from running I was initially sceptical about the benefits of physiotherapy. However I decided to have a scan and took it to a reputable physio who took me through the specifics of MY injury (with diagrams and models) and explained what exercises I needed to do and how each of them impacted on the injury - both from the point if view of recovery and in terms of future injury prevention. Once explained I then viewed the activities as an investment in my welfare rather than just foing what doctor told me - and so was more motivated. My advice wiuld therefore be to not be sfraid to ask your therapist questions until you fully understand what is being asked of you and how - specifically - you will benefit. Physiotherapy and mobility exercise was crucial after both my hip replacements. Luckily I had the whole package of surgery, aftercare & physio without question. But from what I’ve heard, apart from getting you moving before hospital discharge, longer term NHS physio is not automatic. Mind you the latest method of Superpath hip replacement by keyhole surgery isn’t as traumatic to muscles in the upper thigh. |
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Post by musik on Jan 21, 2024 13:29:23 GMT
Has anyone here experience in mobility training? I mean, I guess I'm supposed to start this training for my fractured wrist next week. But I can tell you already that I can't rotate the elbow the way I use to. I hardly can rotate it at all. So what would happen if I did it by force? With the help of my other hand and arm or some equipment from the work shop. A new fracture? Isn't bone just bone, so why would the mobility increase over time? What I'm really after is the answer to the general question: what is happening anatomically during the period the mobility increases? In my case they say at least a year. I can't answer specifically because I'm neither a physiotherapist nor know the details of your spelcific injury. What I do know is that having suffered a lot of back pain from running I was initially sceptical about the benefits of physiotherapy. However I decided to have a scan and took it to a reputable physio who took me through the specifics of MY injury (with diagrams and models) and explained what exercises I needed to do and how each of them impacted on the injury - both from the point if view of recovery and in terms of future injury prevention. Once explained I then viewed the activities as an investment in my welfare rather than just doing what doctor told me - and so was more motivated. My advice would therefore be to not be afraid to ask your therapist questions until you fully understand what is being asked of you and how - specifically - you will benefit. I will ask. Unfortunately the visits are so short though. I'm particularly curious about how a person should be able to force a body part to move, if the function isn't there. |
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Post by musik on Jan 21, 2024 13:35:13 GMT
I can't answer specifically because I'm neither a physiotherapist nor know the details of your spelcific injury. What I do know is that having suffered a lot of back pain from running I was initially sceptical about the benefits of physiotherapy. However I decided to have a scan and took it to a reputable physio who took me through the specifics of MY injury (with diagrams and models) and explained what exercises I needed to do and how each of them impacted on the injury - both from the point if view of recovery and in terms of future injury prevention. Once explained I then viewed the activities as an investment in my welfare rather than just foing what doctor told me - and so was more motivated. My advice wiuld therefore be to not be sfraid to ask your therapist questions until you fully understand what is being asked of you and how - specifically - you will benefit. Physiotherapy and mobility exercise was crucial after both my hip replacements. Luckily I had the whole package of surgery, aftercare & physio without question. But from what I’ve heard, apart from getting you moving before hospital discharge, longer term NHS physio is not automatic. Mind you the latest method of Superpath hip replacement by keyhole surgery isn’t as traumatic to muscles in the upper thigh. Physiotherapy, I've had it against my dislocated disks and I'm all for it. I avoided surgery thanks to physiotherapy. Mobility exercises on the other hand, I don't get the logic. When the joint gets dislocated when I've beaten the pain to do the movement anyway, am I supposed to locate it back on my own each time? That will be one of my main questions tomorrow. |
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Post by chuffedstokie on Jan 21, 2024 16:49:43 GMT
I can't answer specifically because I'm neither a physiotherapist nor know the details of your spelcific injury. What I do know is that having suffered a lot of back pain from running I was initially sceptical about the benefits of physiotherapy. However I decided to have a scan and took it to a reputable physio who took me through the specifics of MY injury (with diagrams and models) and explained what exercises I needed to do and how each of them impacted on the injury - both from the point if view of recovery and in terms of future injury prevention. Once explained I then viewed the activities as an investment in my welfare rather than just foing what doctor told me - and so was more motivated. My advice wiuld therefore be to not be sfraid to ask your therapist questions until you fully understand what is being asked of you and how - specifically - you will benefit. Physiotherapy and mobility exercise was crucial after both my hip replacements. Luckily I had the whole package of surgery, aftercare & physio without question. But from what I’ve heard, apart from getting you moving before hospital discharge, longer term NHS physio is not automatic. Mind you the latest method of Superpath hip replacement by keyhole surgery isn’t as traumatic to muscles in the upper thigh. All I had after both hip jobs was a couple of trips to the physio at the health centre to check I was walking OK, off work for the mandatory 12 weeks each time and my left leg about 2 mm shorter than the right (no big deal). Once everything was mended that was it, yer on your own mate!. |
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Post by musik on Jan 22, 2024 23:56:10 GMT
I can't answer specifically because I'm neither a physiotherapist nor know the details of your spelcific injury. What I do know is that having suffered a lot of back pain from running I was initially sceptical about the benefits of physiotherapy. However I decided to have a scan and took it to a reputable physio who took me through the specifics of MY injury (with diagrams and models) and explained what exercises I needed to do and how each of them impacted on the injury - both from the point if view of recovery and in terms of future injury prevention. Once explained I then viewed the activities as an investment in my welfare rather than just foing what doctor told me - and so was more motivated. My advice wiuld therefore be to not be sfraid to ask your therapist questions until you fully understand what is being asked of you and how - specifically - you will benefit. Physiotherapy and mobility exercise was crucial after both my hip replacements. Luckily I had the whole package of surgery, aftercare & physio without question. I saw the physio therapist specialised in hands again and an assistant. I know and I agree physio therapy and mobility exercises are crucial to get functions back. I received a program with exercises. I asked how mobility is supposed to work anatomically. At last it seemed to be by wakening the muscles up and by healing soft tissues, since no arthritis were present. I always want to know WHY things are supposed to happen. I've done the program twice at home already. In one direction I can't hardly move the wrist at all. In the other direction 30%. Rotation of the wrist pretty good in one direction and not good they other way. What could have been a fracture a bit down the forearm could still be a fracture, but it might as well be a collapsed muscle attachment. |
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Post by musik on Jan 23, 2024 0:12:10 GMT
Has anyone here experience in mobility training? I mean, I guess I'm supposed to start this training for my fractured wrist next week. But I can tell you already that I can't rotate the elbow the way I use to. I hardly can rotate it at all. So what would happen if I did it by force? With the help of my other hand and arm or some equipment from the work shop. A new fracture? Isn't bone just bone, so why would the mobility increase over time? What I'm really after is the answer to the general question: what is happening anatomically during the period the mobility increases? In my case they say at least a year. I can't answer specifically because I'm neither a physiotherapist nor know the details of your spelcific injury. What I do know is that having suffered a lot of back pain from running I was initially sceptical about the benefits of physiotherapy. However I decided to have a scan and took it to a reputable physio who took me through the specifics of MY injury (with diagrams and models) and explained what exercises I needed to do and how each of them impacted on the injury - both from the point if view of recovery and in terms of future injury prevention. Once explained I then viewed the activities as an investment in my welfare rather than just foing what doctor told me - and so was more motivated. My advice wiuld therefore be to not be sfraid to ask your therapist questions until you fully understand what is being asked of you and how - specifically - you will benefit. The physio therapist was surprised I asked how it's meant mobility exercises will work. Basically it was to wake up the muscles, the ones that works to bend the wrist in different directions. They have been in a plaster case for 30 days. The rehab time is 1-2 years, but the three first months are most important. Since they "only" were specialised in wrists and hands at that department, I was also given the advice to contact my former physiotherapist in the city centre -for treatment on a trapped nerve which gives me electrical sensations in the hand when I reach for something. They didn't know at what level it triggers, wrist, elbow, shoulder or neck or a combination. They also wanted me to re-continue with the neck therapy there plus some exercises for an injured knee. The problem with the knee has appeared this weekend and often does one to several weeks after such a fall I had on my back. The left leg went under me and the right leg forward during the fall. |
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Post by musik on Jan 24, 2024 0:51:24 GMT
The second day with wrist exercises (Tuesday) and my wrist actually moved a bit, like yesterday at the hospital perhaps. It's really hard and it feels like working against concrete even if they say it's tendons, muscles and other soft parts.
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