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Post by dirtygary69 on Jan 13, 2024 17:23:20 GMT
When did we last beat the same team three times in a single season? Huddersfield in 1899. |
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Jan 13, 2024 17:24:24 GMT
When did we last beat the same team three times in a single season? Huddersfield in 1899. You’ve just made that up haven’t you? 😂 |
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Post by rdf10 on Jan 13, 2024 17:24:53 GMT
Shout out to Rose and McNally today, both solid, they get a lot of shit on this board but they were quality today. Starting to build a solid partnership. Back to back league clean sheets and haven’t conceded more than one in last 8 league games. McNally I think is a very accomplished defender at this level and pretty underrated in this side. |
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Post by telfordstokie on Jan 13, 2024 17:27:19 GMT
Broke up their movement but it makes me wonder if he hates playing football and just wants to be home with the family on matchdays Burger brilliant for me, wants to get involved, tries to create......but he gives away some ridiculously obvious free kicks and looks to get booked every match.....we can't afford that Burger did absolutely right thing with the yellow he got today to be fair, their guy was about to run into miles of space and needed stopping. |
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Post by LH_SCFC on Jan 13, 2024 17:27:39 GMT
When did we last beat the same team three times in a single season? Huddersfield in 1899. We did actually beat Huddersfield three times in the 1970/71 season - twice in the league and in an FA Cup replay after two draws. |
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Post by chamberlain on Jan 13, 2024 17:29:23 GMT
Burger was everywhere and quite rightly bollocked Hoever for his moment of sloppiness.
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Post by dirtclod on Jan 13, 2024 17:30:04 GMT
Burger brilliant for me, wants to get involved, tries to create......but he gives away some ridiculously obvious free kicks and looks to get booked every match.....we can't afford that Burger did absolutely right thing with the yellow he got today to be fair, their guy was about to run into miles of space and needed stopping. Yep I saw it as a tactical foul and good on Burger for willing to do it. We just need to continue work on limiting those situations where we're forced to have to commit them. |
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Post by Gunslinger on Jan 13, 2024 17:32:47 GMT
There are no easy matches in this league so I'm very happy with 3 points, especially away. And a clean sheet too!
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Post by LH_SCFC on Jan 13, 2024 17:36:00 GMT
When did we last beat the same team three times in a single season? I’ll figure this out on my own. Looks like we beat both West Brom and Preston three times each in the 1992/93 season. More recently we beat Macclesfield thrice in 1998/99. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2024 17:36:32 GMT
I thought Rose was excellent today.
Burger is cementing himself as a future captain, off the ball he’s forever talking to the team.
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Post by aloha63 on Jan 13, 2024 17:36:38 GMT
A great result today against dour opponents who nearly got away with it.
Schuey is galvanising us .. we now have a great manager who will have our backing through thick & thin.
Happy days are here again !
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Post by cja103 on Jan 13, 2024 17:39:24 GMT
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Post by robstokie on Jan 13, 2024 17:47:35 GMT
Great result today. These are the kind of results you want to see - a pretty scrappy game where they looked to bombard us on occasions, but we dug in, stood up to them, made sure we won our individual battles and allowed ourselves to let one moment of real quality win us the game. Thought Burger was outstanding, he looks real quality and runs the game from midfield - almost N Zonzi-esque! Also impressed with his leadership, he's got a strong voice, kept chatting to those around him and wasn't afraid to dig Dyson out when he fucked up! Credit has to go to Schumi, firstly for recognizing what Burger can contribute but also for setting us up to look to play on the front foot whilst installing some continuity and shape defensively. Still think we are not the finished article, and a proper left back (though Thompson has been excellent in there), an out and out striker and cover at centre half and in midfield are needed, but we are certainly on the right tracks! In Schumi we trust
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 13, 2024 17:48:20 GMT
Burger brilliant for me, wants to get involved, tries to create......but he gives away some ridiculously obvious free kicks and looks to get booked every match.....we can't afford that Burger did absolutely right thing with the yellow he got today to be fair, their guy was about to run into miles of space and needed stopping. It is debatable whether he should have done that in my opinion....but I am talking in general....he does seem to commit some obvious fouls...and to be clear I am a big Burger fan |
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Post by cja103 on Jan 13, 2024 17:54:07 GMT
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Post by senojbor on Jan 13, 2024 17:54:57 GMT
You’ve just made that up haven’t you? 😂 Man U about 72. Away in the league and in the league and FA cups at home ,.....I think |
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Post by LH_SCFC on Jan 13, 2024 17:57:48 GMT
You’ve just made that up haven’t you? 😂 Man U about 72. Away in the league and in the league and FA cups at home ,.....I think Macc 1998/99 |
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Post by thicknthin on Jan 13, 2024 18:05:48 GMT
I thought Rose was excellent today. Burger is cementing himself as a future captain, off the ball he’s forever talking to the team. I agree with both have been quite a critic of Rose, so against a big aggressive side he barely lost a dual, wasn’t caught out of position made several good interceptions. More of the same please |
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Post by dirtclod on Jan 13, 2024 18:05:52 GMT
Absolutely love that we can get into arguments on here even after we win - spices up the messageboard.
People doing some serious critical-thinking, expecting and demanding improvement.
Nothing wrong with that.
Our away support on those videos at the end of the game were giving me goosebumps.
"Negative" and "Positive" posters alike and especially to the fans who travelled - all of you have a fantastic rest of this weekend, every Stoke supporter deserves it.
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Post by abhill on Jan 13, 2024 18:08:41 GMT
You’ve just made that up haven’t you? 😂 Man U about 72. Away in the league and in the league and FA cups at home ,.....I think Beat them in both cups in 1971/72 but not in the league |
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Post by cja103 on Jan 13, 2024 18:11:21 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2024 18:20:15 GMT
Happy with an efficient performance today with little drama. We've not been able to say that very often. We looked competent defensively. A good day at the office
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Post by mtrstudent on Jan 13, 2024 18:31:12 GMT
I thought Rose was excellent today. Burger is cementing himself as a future captain, off the ball he’s forever talking to the team. I was trying to watch him because he's really worried me. Got turned once on an aerial ball but that's all the bad I remember. Don't think he did any of his stupid giveaways. Always good to see improvement. |
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Post by baconburger on Jan 13, 2024 19:12:15 GMT
Burger did absolutely right thing with the yellow he got today to be fair, their guy was about to run into miles of space and needed stopping. It is debatable whether he should have done that in my opinion....but I am talking in general....he does seem to commit some obvious fouls...and to be clear I am a big Burger fan Don’t think it’s even the least bit debatable. Don’t mind his cards either they’re for challenges cynical or otherwise not being a prat. |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 13, 2024 19:25:13 GMT
It is debatable whether he should have done that in my opinion....but I am talking in general....he does seem to commit some obvious fouls...and to be clear I am a big Burger fan Don’t think it’s even the least bit debatable. Don’t mind his cards either they’re for challenges cynical or otherwise not being a prat. I'm pleased to disagree. Do you think he should have been sent off then for preventing a goalscoring opportunity? I think Burger is our most important player...but not just in this game he commits blatant fouls in front of the referee.... I guess we might see the impact of this in future weeks. As an aside , I will never condone a " Professional foul " or " taking one for the team" Which actually works both ways |
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Post by baconburger on Jan 13, 2024 19:47:28 GMT
Don’t think it’s even the least bit debatable. Don’t mind his cards either they’re for challenges cynical or otherwise not being a prat. I'm pleased to disagree. Do you think he should have been sent off then for preventing a goalscoring opportunity? I thi k Burger is our most important player...but nit just in this game he commits blatant fouls in front of the referee.... I guess we might see the impact of this in future weks. As an aside , I will never condone a " Professional foul " or " taking one for the team" Which actually works both ways No I don’t think he should have been sent off under the current interpretation and directives to match officials or any interpretation of preventing a clear goal scoring opportunity but yes it was certainly a professional foul and would at one time have resulted in a red under the interpretations and directives of the time in which case I can only assume he’d have acted accordingly ie not done it because it was by no means a certain goal scoring opportunity. You can only play to the rules as they are being interpreted at the time. Interpretations and directives have changed and it’s a long time since something a referee saw as a professional foul saw a straight red so the people who change these things must have thought there was something not quite right with it and changed it a few times ie last man, clear goal scoring opportunity. Should he play as if you’ve been in an offside position the flag should go up immediately and the game stopped and free kick given too? You play to the rules given and the way you’re told beforehand how they will be enforced. I don’t want to watch players who don’t do everything they can to win a game by some notion of being a good guy. |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 13, 2024 19:52:14 GMT
I'm pleased to disagree. Do you think he should have been sent off then for preventing a goalscoring opportunity? I thi k Burger is our most important player...but nit just in this game he commits blatant fouls in front of the referee.... I guess we might see the impact of this in future weks. As an aside , I will never condone a " Professional foul " or " taking one for the team" Which actually works both ways No I don’t think he should have been sent off under the current interpretation and directives to match officials or any interpretation of preventing a clear goal scoring opportunity but yes it was certainly a professional foul and would at one time have resulted in a red under the interpretations and directives of the time in which case I can only assume he’d have acted accordingly ie not done it because it was by no means a certain goal scoring opportunity. You can only play to the rules as they are being interpreted at the time. Interpretations and directives have changed and it’s a long time since something a referee saw as a professional foul saw a straight red so the people who change these things must have thought there was something not quite right with it and changed it a few times ie last man, clear goal scoring opportunity. Should he play as if you’ve been in an offside position the flag should go up immediately and the game stopped and free kick given too? You play to the rules given and the way you’re told beforehand how they will be enforced I'm all for playing to the rules. I think every sport should do that, else it makes a mockery of the whole thing. Imagine cheating in snooker, the 100 m sprint or tennis? Why should football be different? "Accidental" fouls/ infringements are one thing, deliberate cheating another. As regards Burger, he needs to be careful in the future |
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Post by baconburger on Jan 13, 2024 20:01:25 GMT
No I don’t think he should have been sent off under the current interpretation and directives to match officials or any interpretation of preventing a clear goal scoring opportunity but yes it was certainly a professional foul and would at one time have resulted in a red under the interpretations and directives of the time in which case I can only assume he’d have acted accordingly ie not done it because it was by no means a certain goal scoring opportunity. You can only play to the rules as they are being interpreted at the time. Interpretations and directives have changed and it’s a long time since something a referee saw as a professional foul saw a straight red so the people who change these things must have thought there was something not quite right with it and changed it a few times ie last man, clear goal scoring opportunity. Should he play as if you’ve been in an offside position the flag should go up immediately and the game stopped and free kick given too? You play to the rules given and the way you’re told beforehand how they will be enforced I'm all for playing to the rules. I think every sport should do thst, else it makes a mockery of the whole thing. Imagine cheating in snooker, the 100 m sprint or tennis? What should football be different? "Accidental" fouls/ infringements are one thing, deliberate cheating another. As regards Burger, he needs to be careful in the future The actual rules rarely change. As I say it’s how they’re interpreted and how match officials are directed to enforce them. Any changes are communicated to clubs and players before the season commences. If they want to reintroduce straight red for a professional foul they’re the people with that power. They don’t tend to ask me or Wouter Burger what we think about it. I’m sure if they did he’d adjust his game accordingly but as I say they must have identified an unintended/undesirable consequence of that directive to have moved away from it. |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 13, 2024 20:10:49 GMT
I'm all for playing to the rules. I think every sport should do thst, else it makes a mockery of the whole thing. Imagine cheating in snooker, the 100 m sprint or tennis? What should football be different? "Accidental" fouls/ infringements are one thing, deliberate cheating another. As regards Burger, he needs to be careful in the future The actual rules rarely change. As I say it’s how they’re interpreted and how match officials are directed to enforce them. Any changes are communicated to clubs and players before the season commences. If they want to reintroduce straight red for a professional foul they’re the people with that power. They don’t tend to ask me or Wouter Burger what we think about it. I’m sure if they did he’d adjust his game accordingly but as I say they must have identified an unintended/undesirable consequence of that directive to have moved away from it. Some fouls are obvious Bacon |
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Post by baconburger on Jan 13, 2024 21:00:49 GMT
The actual rules rarely change. As I say it’s how they’re interpreted and how match officials are directed to enforce them. Any changes are communicated to clubs and players before the season commences. If they want to reintroduce straight red for a professional foul they’re the people with that power. They don’t tend to ask me or Wouter Burger what we think about it. I’m sure if they did he’d adjust his game accordingly but as I say they must have identified an unintended/undesirable consequence of that directive to have moved away from it. Some fouls are obvious Bacon That's not the point. Players are told how officials will deal with certain offences and at the moment Burger's foul does not attract a red therefore it's sensible under the circumstances to "take one for the team" whether you approve or not. And as I've said I think if they changed the directive Burger is a switched on enough player to adjust his actions accordingly. He's not like some loose cannon or other such description. |
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