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Post by Olgrligm on Jan 2, 2024 22:09:14 GMT
In amongst all of the excitement of the last few games, it seemed to have gone unnoticed that Leris has been absent from the squad for the last three games due to concussion protocols. I know that he hasn't had the most stellar start to his time here, but I think that he could still have a part to play in the coming weeks. Playing a defensive forward to accommodate Hoever as a full-back doesn't seem like Schumacher's style but the recent injury/international crisis might provide him with an opportunity. Incidentally, I think it's a pretty good sign of how back-to-front Neil's thinking had become towards the end of his time that he was playing a forward whose attacking statistics are virtually non-existent but who is pretty much the best forward in the league for defensive actions per 90 such as tackles, clearances and blocks. 4th percentile amongst forwards for xG/90, 1st percentile for xA/90 and 12th percentile for shot-creating actions but 99th percentile for headers won, 89th percentile for tackles and 97th percentile for blocks (see fbref.com/en/players/7d3cbc67/scout/365_m2/Mehdi-Leris-Scouting-Report). We've seen a few of our players totally transformed under the new regime, so perhaps the same could be true for Leris? He's not been named in Algeria's ACON squad, so he should be available for the foreseeable. With Gooch and Stevens injured, Thompson suspended and Tchamadeu off to ACON, that leaves us with just Leris and Hoever available to play in the cup against Brighton. It's a chance for him to stake a claim. We've seen players who seemed totally lost in the old regime come in and show a new lease of life under the old manager. Perhaps he's capable of transforming Leris from a very defensive forward to a dynamic attacking wing-back? |
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jan 2, 2024 22:12:22 GMT
Leris seems to be one of the new boys the vast majority of fans haven't taken to yet.
I personally think he has shown glimpses of what he can do (scored a couple of brilliant goals too). I don't think we have seen the best of him yet by any means so I think it's wise to withold judgement on him just yet
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 2, 2024 22:31:12 GMT
I’m still not sure how he’s a professional footballer but fair play to him.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 2, 2024 22:32:12 GMT
He’s a right sided utility player who should play in times of desperation.
That may well be this weekend
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jan 2, 2024 22:37:32 GMT
He shouldn't play on the same side as Hoever.
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Post by Glory Hunter on Jan 2, 2024 22:50:18 GMT
I’m still not sure how he’s a professional footballer but fair play to him. Yet he is the best header of a football in the club…. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 2, 2024 22:54:59 GMT
I’m still not sure how he’s a professional footballer but fair play to him. Yet he is the best header of a football in the club…. He is. It’s about the only thing I think he’s good at it. I hope he’s mainly used sparingly and as a right back. I can cope with that. |
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Post by Glory Hunter on Jan 2, 2024 23:02:10 GMT
Yet he is the best header of a football in the club…. He is. It’s about the only thing I think he’s good at it. I hope he’s mainly used sparingly and as a right back. I can cope with that. Wow,that’s a balanced, reasonable response - you ok mate? |
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jan 2, 2024 23:14:37 GMT
Yet he is the best header of a football in the club…. He is. It’s about the only thing I think he’s good at it. I hope he’s mainly used sparingly and as a right back. I can cope with that. You have to admit surely a couple his goals have been quality finishes (the one against Rotherham and Bristol City especially) As I said I don't think we have seen the best of him yet, I think he is a wing back more than a winger. So i'm reserving judging until he has had a fair crack under Schumacher |
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Post by lordb on Jan 2, 2024 23:17:30 GMT
3 very good goals but otherwise he doesn't look like scoring or making any goals
Maybe he can cover defensive midfield and right back other than that can't see him as anything other than a squad player
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 2, 2024 23:20:35 GMT
He is. It’s about the only thing I think he’s good at it. I hope he’s mainly used sparingly and as a right back. I can cope with that. You have to admit surely a couple his goals have been quality finishes (the one against Rotherham and Bristol City especially) As I said I don't think we have seen the best of him yet, I think he is a wing back more than a winger. So i'm reserving judging until he has had a fair crack under Schumacher They have. But I very much think that’s luck more than judgement. His touch 9 times out of 10 is absolute dog muck. He gets through a lot of work though. I was gonna say he was cheap but he was a million wasnt he? I know it’s not massive but he’s not worth a quarter of that really. |
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jan 2, 2024 23:22:34 GMT
You have to admit surely a couple his goals have been quality finishes (the one against Rotherham and Bristol City especially) As I said I don't think we have seen the best of him yet, I think he is a wing back more than a winger. So i'm reserving judging until he has had a fair crack under Schumacher They have. But I very much think that’s luck more than judgement. His touch 9 times out of 10 is absolute dog muck. He gets through a lot of work though. I was gonna say he was cheap but he was a million wasnt he? I know it’s not massive but he’s not worth a quarter of that really. Reports seem to vary between 750k and a million so it's around there for sure |
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Post by lordb on Jan 2, 2024 23:23:07 GMT
You have to admit surely a couple his goals have been quality finishes (the one against Rotherham and Bristol City especially) As I said I don't think we have seen the best of him yet, I think he is a wing back more than a winger. So i'm reserving judging until he has had a fair crack under Schumacher They have. But I very much think that’s luck more than judgement. His touch 9 times out of 10 is absolute dog muck. He gets through a lot of work though. I was gonna say he was cheap but he was a million wasnt he? I know it’s not massive but he’s not worth a quarter of that really. €800 About £750k? The equivalent player here would be probably more |
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Post by stayingupforbigbazza on Jan 2, 2024 23:26:54 GMT
He scored 2 great goals at Bristol and Middlesboro so there must be a winger in there somewhere ..
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 2, 2024 23:29:05 GMT
They have. But I very much think that’s luck more than judgement. His touch 9 times out of 10 is absolute dog muck. He gets through a lot of work though. I was gonna say he was cheap but he was a million wasnt he? I know it’s not massive but he’s not worth a quarter of that really. €800 About £750k? The equivalent player here would be probably more Really? I think we could have got better for free. And this bloke has played on Serie A. It’s scary how bad he is with the ball. |
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 2, 2024 23:50:06 GMT
I think he’s okay and will be a decent utility player. I could even see him slotting in to midfield in a pinch.
His biggest issue is that we need to score more and he isn’t going to do that as often as we need.
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Post by nottsover60 on Jan 3, 2024 0:03:44 GMT
You have to admit surely a couple his goals have been quality finishes (the one against Rotherham and Bristol City especially) As I said I don't think we have seen the best of him yet, I think he is a wing back more than a winger. So i'm reserving judging until he has had a fair crack under Schumacher They have. But I very much think that’s luck more than judgement. His touch 9 times out of 10 is absolute dog muck. He gets through a lot of work though. I was gonna say he was cheap but he was a million wasnt he? I know it’s not massive but he’s not worth a quarter of that really. At the beginning of the season I thought he had good technique and control but just didn't go anywhere. I think he's another that like Vidigal has lost confidence in the last few months under Neil. It must be difficult as a forward trying to adapt to a new country and different style of football, to have your manager constantly telling you to defend. |
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Post by willieeetmiout on Jan 3, 2024 0:16:03 GMT
You have to admit surely a couple his goals have been quality finishes (the one against Rotherham and Bristol City especially) As I said I don't think we have seen the best of him yet, I think he is a wing back more than a winger. So i'm reserving judging until he has had a fair crack under Schumacher They have. But I very much think that’s luck more than judgement. His touch 9 times out of 10 is absolute dog muck. He gets through a lot of work though. I was gonna say he was cheap but he was a million wasnt he? I know it’s not massive but he’s not worth a quarter of that really. Ahem And I quote "Wind your c*****g necks in and wish him luck and get on board." |
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Post by Silkystoke on Jan 3, 2024 0:24:11 GMT
When Fit, he must be in the squad, if not the team..!!! He will be quality.. patience with him a must..!!!!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 3, 2024 0:34:03 GMT
They have. But I very much think that’s luck more than judgement. His touch 9 times out of 10 is absolute dog muck. He gets through a lot of work though. I was gonna say he was cheap but he was a million wasnt he? I know it’s not massive but he’s not worth a quarter of that really. Ahem And I quote "Wind your c*****g necks in and wish him luck and get on board." In don’t want to watch him play though particularly. We have better, we’ll sign better and he should only be used in emergencies. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 3, 2024 8:50:55 GMT
Leris has had some very good performances and some fairly anonymous performances but I can't recall a bad performance - his worst performance was last time out and it turns out he had concussion.
Schumacher has used wingbacks at Plymouth so he might well get some game time in that capacity given the fullback situation - he's certainly got the defensive skills to pull it off and Junior wouldn't be out of place in that position either. If we bring in someone to challenge Stevens on the left it will be very interesting to see what type of player we bring in. Gooch has also done well on both the right and left as well.
At times our 433 has led to the wide forwards (Vidigal, Bae, Leris and Haksabanovic) playing too wide leaving Mmaee isolated in the middle. A 352 or 343 might make the front line more compact and get some attacking partnerships to develop.
I think every player, including Leris, has a clean slate and I suspect no-one, including Schumacher, knows what our starting 11 is going to look like going forward. His first 4 games have come in such quick succession that he hasn't had any time to work on much in training so what we have seen to date is really just a few tweaks on what Gallagher was doing. The games this month are nicely spread out so he'll have more time to shape the side the way he wants it. Personally I have no idea what are starting 11 will look like or who will be the first team regulars come Easter.
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Post by baconburger on Jan 3, 2024 9:11:59 GMT
Leris has had some very good performances and some fairly anonymous performances but I can't recall a bad performance - his worst performance was last time out and it turns out he had concussion. Schumacher has used wingbacks at Plymouth so he might well get some game time in that capacity given the fullback situation - he's certainly got the defensive skills to pull it off and Junior wouldn't be out of place in that position either. If we bring in someone to challenge Stevens on the left it will be very interesting to see what type of player we bring in. Gooch has also done well on both the right and left as well. At times our 433 has led to the wide forwards (Vidigal, Bae, Leris and Haksabanovic) playing too wide leaving Mmaee isolated in the middle. A 352 or 343 might make the front line more compact and get some attacking partnerships to develop. I think every player, including Leris, has a clean slate and I suspect no-one, including Schumacher, knows what our starting 11 is going to look like going forward. His first 4 games have come in such quick succession that he hasn't had any time to work on much in training so what we have seen to date is really just a few tweaks on what Gallagher was doing. The games this month are nicely spread out so he'll have more time to shape the side the way he wants it. Personally I have no idea what are starting 11 will look like or who will be the first team regulars come Easter. His touch is erratic/inconsistent and his delivery poor. It’s hard to dislike him because of his effort but I just can’t work out where you could put him on the pitch where his shortcomings aren’t hurting the team other than the bench. |
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Jan 3, 2024 14:04:35 GMT
Looks like a right back to me.
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Post by nonameface on Jan 3, 2024 18:54:46 GMT
His stats on fbref for the top 5 league is really consistent with what you see. Great in the air, good xg poor tackling for a defender, low xg and okay tackling for a winger, very poor passer at these levels, and a poor dribbler.
For me on the positions hes played in so far for us he's a defensive winger when we are playing teams we expect to get battered by, or a wing back (not a full back until he can defend) for other games.
We've yet to see him here but I think he could have better impact for us as a pressing forward when Mmaee is spent or against teams where we are expected to get pummelled. It wouldn't surprise me to see a better percentile XG there than out wide as he could focus more on just striking the ball than getting past a player and could use his heading ability more.
Originally thought he was signed for less than one million which is fair, but transfermarkt suggests €2.5m, which seems a bit pricey based upon what we've seen so far.
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Post by thepottypotter on Jan 3, 2024 19:08:34 GMT
I’m still not sure how he’s a professional footballer but fair play to him. Bore off you weapon. You used to say the same nonsense about Brown. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 3, 2024 19:10:18 GMT
I’m still not sure how he’s a professional footballer but fair play to him. Bore off you weapon. You used to say the same nonsense about Brown. Yes and I still do. His control is atrocious. Neither are very good footballers. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 3, 2024 19:17:18 GMT
Looks like a right berk to me. That’s not very nice |
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 3, 2024 20:12:07 GMT
With a new head coach, change in management style and tactics, I think the jury should be out on everyone to see how they respond in the new regime.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jan 3, 2024 20:21:38 GMT
I like him. Seems to have a bit about him but has struggled to adjust to the chaos of the championship.
Not a clue where his position is though!
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 3, 2024 20:47:00 GMT
I like him. Seems to have a bit about him but has struggled to adjust to the chaos of the championship. Not a clue where his position is though! I feel he’s a bring on towards the end of the game to do a job type player that can cover a few positions competently if needed to see a game out. Or summat like that. He’s seems to have a good attitude and that counts for a fair bit in my book. |
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