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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 1, 2024 18:12:07 GMT
100% a bruised ego moment from the ref, didn't like what JT said to him. It was so minor nobody even saw it, certainly didn't warrant ruining the game for the thousands in attendance because a player pissed him off a little. H Second yellow for waving an imaginary card, not dissent I've no sympathy for him As a few have said, how many times a game do you see players doing that and literally not a word from the ref.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 1, 2024 18:13:08 GMT
Whilst I’m all for it, I thought it was quite obvious why JT was sent off, a second yellow for hand ball. Apologies, never saw him wave an imaginary card. I get what you’re saying mate, I thought the same at first
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Post by lordb on Jan 1, 2024 18:14:22 GMT
He definitely waved an imaginary yellow card moronic from Thompson, ref had no choice However this type of offence should be dealt with by sin bins Save red cards for the really nasty stuff There are plenty of players who don't get cautioned for waving imaginary cards. The referee had a choice, he chose to be a jumped up little shit. Thats the two wrongs make a right argument. Referees by their nature are generally jumped up shits as such it's stupid when you have already been booked to give them the opportunity, can't believe how JT is getting away without criticism As I say bring in sin bins and enforce it every time
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Post by stiggerstackle on Jan 1, 2024 18:15:19 GMT
H Second yellow for waving an imaginary card, not dissent I've no sympathy for him As a few have said, how many times a game do you see players doing that and literally not a word from the ref. It beggars belief what they choose to react to. How he can send JT off for that and then ignore Baker being chopped down by an Ipswich player carrying a yellow literally 10 mins later is beyond a joke. As another thread says - refs need to being held to account like in rugby.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 1, 2024 18:15:29 GMT
There are plenty of players who don't get cautioned for waving imaginary cards. The referee had a choice, he chose to be a jumped up little shit. Thats the two wrongs make a right argument. Referees by their nature are generally jumped up shits as such it's stupid when you have already been booked to give them the opportunity, can't believe how JT is getting away without criticism As I say bring in sin bins and enforce it every time Or ban bookings for waving imaginary cards. Playground stuff
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Post by moon on Jan 1, 2024 18:16:06 GMT
He definitely waved an imaginary yellow card moronic from Thompson, ref had no choice However this type of offence should be dealt with by sin bins Save red cards for the really nasty stuff He had a choice and could’ve ignored it, but he is just following the rule book by showing the yellow and the subsequent red. It ruined the game but it’s not the fault of the ref, footballers should obey the rules, telling the ref to book a player never works anyway - he will make the decision himself. I can understand the frustration of Thompson but it’s daft, he had won the free kick. A lesser individual would’ve rolled around on the floor or feigned injury to try and get the player booked, which unfortunately works far more often than not and is something you never see players booked for.
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Post by richardparker on Jan 1, 2024 18:16:35 GMT
The world of football is full of petulant arsewipes. Here is a classic case in point. Mic up the ref? The crowd would piss themselves with fury!
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 1, 2024 18:17:13 GMT
Also how many times do you see a player blatantly telling a ref to “fuck off”. Clearly waving an imaginary card is more offensive. Bet he’ll cry himself to sleep tonight after that
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Post by lordb on Jan 1, 2024 18:17:14 GMT
Thats the two wrongs make a right argument. Referees by their nature are generally jumped up shits as such it's stupid when you have already been booked to give them the opportunity, can't believe how JT is getting away without criticism As I say bring in sin bins and enforce it every time Or ban bookings for waving imaginary cards. Playground stuff I'd bring in sin bins for all the petty stuff, kicking the ball away, diving etc and save reds for the nasty stuff
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Post by DC1863 on Jan 1, 2024 18:17:16 GMT
100% a bruised ego moment from the ref, didn't like what JT said to him. It was so minor nobody even saw it, certainly didn't warrant ruining the game for the thousands in attendance because a player pissed him off a little. H Second yellow for waving an imaginary card, not dissent I've no sympathy for him Allegedly, I saw a few replays and didn't notice anything, players and manager are also denying it. Happens in basically every game, no other players anywhere near, hardly affecting the refs 'authority' and certainly doesn't warrant ruining a game for tens of thousands in attendance imo.
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Post by Clem Fandango on Jan 1, 2024 18:17:34 GMT
Rightly or wrongly it’s against the rules. Thompson knows that did something moronic.
I’m more annoyed about the Morsey tackle on Baker that didn’t get properly penalised. It was out of control.
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Post by TinkerT on Jan 1, 2024 18:18:28 GMT
He definitely waved an imaginary yellow card moronic from Thompson, ref had no choice However this type of offence should be dealt with by sin bins Save red cards for the really nasty stuff He had a choice and could’ve ignored it, but he is just following the rule book by showing the yellow and the subsequent red. It ruined the game but it’s not the fault of the ref, footballers should obey the rules, telling the ref to book a player never works anyway - he will make the decision himself. I can understand the frustration of Thompson but it’s daft, he had won the free kick. A lesser individual would’ve rolled around on the floor or feigned injury to try and get the player booked, which unfortunately works far more often than not and is something you never see players booked for. Thing is pal JT didn't even wave a card, he barely spoke to him.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 1, 2024 18:19:48 GMT
Or ban bookings for waving imaginary cards. Playground stuff I'd bring in sin bins for all the petty stuff, kicking the ball away, diving etc and save reds for the nasty stuff I mean, diving is cheating and I’m fine with cards for that and maybe kicking the ball away is time wasting and could be a sin bin “offence” I guess. I just feel that what Thompson went for shouldn’t be punished at all. And I know it’s the rules.
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Post by dirtclod on Jan 1, 2024 18:20:08 GMT
Ok so they're applying dreadfully inconsistent rules in a dreadfully inconsistent way. Will respect them a little for doing the job but hell no, I'm not applauding any refs.
They let certain teams surround them and then reward it by changing a call. They're getting paid to keep a match under control and that's not control.
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Post by wakeypotter on Jan 1, 2024 18:20:39 GMT
Works in rugby so why not Rugby is shit though It’s alright. Is it too hard for you Jesus 😃
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jan 1, 2024 18:21:43 GMT
3 of their players surrounded the ref to book him
The rule is , 3rd one gets booked. The ref hadn't reached for a card until then and was persuaded , clearly
Shows the inconsistentcy although not the same ref
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jan 1, 2024 18:23:02 GMT
It’s alright. Is it too hard for you Jesus 😃 Just a load of public schoolboys getting sweaty then playing arse toast the crumpet afterwards
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Post by mrrine on Jan 1, 2024 18:27:23 GMT
Whilst I’m all for it, I thought it was quite obvious why JT was sent off, a second yellow for hand ball. Apologies, never saw him wave an imaginary card. I didnt see that either tbf
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Post by wakeypotter on Jan 1, 2024 18:27:34 GMT
It’s alright. Is it too hard for you Jesus 😃 Just a load of public schoolboys getting sweaty then playing arse toast the crumpet afterwards 😂😂think your on about union Rugby league is better mate
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jan 1, 2024 18:27:50 GMT
Did he really wave an imaginary yellow? It seems an odd thing to want a yellow for, it wasn’t like someone poleaxed him.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jan 1, 2024 18:29:28 GMT
Just a load of public schoolboys getting sweaty then playing arse toast the crumpet afterwards 😂😂think your on about union Rugby league is better mate People called Keith running into each other as they can't work out where else to go
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Post by jzime on Jan 1, 2024 18:36:07 GMT
There are plenty of players who don't get cautioned for waving imaginary cards. The referee had a choice, he chose to be a jumped up little shit. Thats the two wrongs make a right argument. Referees by their nature are generally jumped up shits as such it's stupid when you have already been booked to give them the opportunity, can't believe how JT is getting away without criticism As I say bring in sin bins and enforce it every time JT was stupid and should have kept his mouth shut when he'd already won the foul and knew he was on a booking. But on another day, a different ref would have given him a warning and told him that at the next instance of dissent he'd send him off. Both can be true at once. They either need to apply the guidelines around dissent consistently, or use their common sense as officials around people management to diffuse situations. I'm not opposed to either approach. If every single instance of dissent was met with an instant booking, players would quickly get the message and stop doing it. But the inconsistent approach means some games players can get away with giving an official earfuls all match, while in today's game JT got sent off for little more than reacting badly to getting fouled.
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Post by thornestein on Jan 1, 2024 18:38:30 GMT
What’s the difference between a player waving an imaginary card and a player saying to a ref …"come on ref surely a card for that". Both can just be ignored as a decent ref would not be swayed by such action or words. waving a card is now an offence , well so i read somewhere
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jan 1, 2024 18:41:04 GMT
Rightly or wrongly it’s against the rules. Thompson knows that did something moronic. I’m more annoyed about the Morsey tackle on Baker that didn’t get properly penalised. It was out of control. That was horrible
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Post by dirtclod on Jan 1, 2024 18:43:00 GMT
Rightly or wrongly it’s against the rules. Thompson knows that did something moronic. I’m more annoyed about the Morsey tackle on Baker that didn’t get properly penalised. It was out of control. AMEN!!! (And no, I'm no Nathan Jones fan)
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jan 1, 2024 18:47:13 GMT
Would seen 6 yellow cards a game for players asking for cards
Am all for the rule but for all, not one. They got him booked doing far worse
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Post by tosh on Jan 1, 2024 18:53:39 GMT
Did he really wave an imaginary yellow? It seems an odd thing to want a yellow for, it wasn’t like someone poleaxed him. He clearly did brandish an imaginary card at the referee, and that is now a yellow card offence. A second yellow seems an inappropriate punishment but completely unprofessional of Thompson to do it. He let the side down.
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Post by dirtclod on Jan 1, 2024 18:56:32 GMT
Yeah Thompson should have just told him to "Feck Off" - (They get away with that), but don't you dare wave an imaginary card... And as Clem pointed out - that tackle on Baker was obscene. Looked like Morsey was pitched out of a moving car at him - totally out of control.
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Post by skemstokie on Jan 1, 2024 19:10:01 GMT
We did, but if you handle the ball before the free kick is given I think you’ve still committed an offence. If I’m wrong then fair enough. After the freekick is given the ball is out of play?
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Post by cheadlepotter on Jan 1, 2024 19:13:10 GMT
We did, but if you handle the ball before the free kick is given I think you’ve still committed an offence. If I’m wrong then fair enough. After the freekick is given the ball is out of play? The handball may have taken place before the whistle had been blown though, so the ball is still in play.
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