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Post by chad on Dec 29, 2023 21:48:34 GMT
Yes we’ve a long way to go and some of our squad just aren’t upto it
But the last two games have been more entertaining than anything seen for ages
You can see we want to go forward at every opportunity and there’s more effort all round
Nowhere near the finished article but already a million miles away from the shit we’ve been used to
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 29, 2023 21:51:35 GMT
Really enjoyed todays game.
It won’t always come off but so much better to watch than the fayre under Neil.
Our biggest problem today was the lack of quality and effort off the bench. Aren’t they supposed to inject energy not sap it.
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Post by cvillestokie on Dec 29, 2023 21:52:57 GMT
Really enjoyed todays game. It won’t always come off but so much better to watch than the fayre under Neil. Our biggest problem today was the lack of quality and effort off the bench. Aren’t they supposed to inject energy not sap it. Felt like it went downhill when Junior came off. He’s been immense. Overall, I really enjoyed the game. |
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Dec 29, 2023 21:58:12 GMT
We gave it a go and got through on more than one occasion by neat passing. I was on my feet because we tried and tried, Watford were clearly playing for a point at home!! We did not do anything of this passing it back and sideways nonsense.
Should have had a penno. But the ref would have capped a fine night for the home fans if he gave that 😁
Shame Berger, Mmaee and Pearson had to come off.
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Post by wakeypotter on Dec 29, 2023 22:19:18 GMT
That’sss enterrrtainnment
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 29, 2023 22:24:12 GMT
Thought we played some lovely through passes, lay offs and flicks. They didn’t all come off but it was good to watch.
Thought Baker had an absolute mare but he can probably blame rustiness on that.
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Post by sticky on Dec 29, 2023 22:29:26 GMT
Always frustrating not to beat 10 men, but much more enjoyable to watch. Would of taken a point beforehand
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Post by stokest5 on Dec 29, 2023 22:32:21 GMT
I think we missed Gooch today. Same has Junior seems to have a positive attitude and gives us a drive.
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Post by mtrstudent on Dec 29, 2023 23:13:53 GMT
Thought today was loads more entertaining than the shite AN mostly served up. So refreshing even if we could have got tonked. Onwards and upwards!
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Dec 30, 2023 7:21:19 GMT
I thought it was a good point.
The manager is making sure the players throw everything at it every game. They did well first half to keep up with Watford, who have better players than us in key areas. They have commanding centre backs and menace in attack.
When it went to ten men it was a horrible game, about ten subs were made, with diving and cheating all over the place, it was clever game management from Watford.
Schumacher will have noted how badly our subs contributed when they came on. He will know we have some good players but are way short in key areas.
The players gave it everything so I'm happy with the performance despite the glaring deficiencies.
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Post by milky on Dec 30, 2023 7:53:23 GMT
The question is a simple one.
Which would folk prefer to watch ?
A performance like last night ,despite its obvious flaws ?
Or one where we are clearly time wasting at 0 -0 at home to the team bottom of the league?
I know which one I prefer...
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Post by satoshi on Dec 30, 2023 8:21:12 GMT
We played some lovely stuff. It wasn’t perfect but you can see how we’re trying to evolve. Not something that’s been said often about Stoke in recent years.
Plenty of moaners on here who apparently saw a shit performance but it was far from it.
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Post by deeside2 on Dec 30, 2023 9:44:28 GMT
I'm actually looking forward to watching us play again after years of absolutely dreading it.
Early days for sure but big improvement so far.
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Post by greyface on Dec 30, 2023 10:03:09 GMT
Just so refreshing to see us commit players forward and playing football further up the pitch, actually giving the opposition something to think about instead of being easy to take the ball off and put under pressure. In some ways it’s hard to believe that this is the same group of players as 3 weeks ago but on the other hand I always thought that this lot had more to offer than what we had been seeing.
Very encouraging, looking forward to what comes next 😎
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Dec 30, 2023 10:06:29 GMT
The question is a simple one. Which would folk prefer to watch ? A performance like last night ,despite its obvious flaws ? Or one where we are clearly time wasting at 0 -0 at home to the team bottom of the league? I know which one I prefer... This, 100%, although you missed the bit where we'd concede a late goal to lose 0-1 😏 |
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Post by baconburger on Dec 30, 2023 10:10:02 GMT
Always frustrating not to beat 10 men, but much more enjoyable to watch. Would of taken a point beforehand Just great to see us playing with a different mentality. |
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Post by baconburger on Dec 30, 2023 10:14:50 GMT
Thought today was loads more entertaining than the shite AN mostly served up. So refreshing even if we could have got tonked. Onwards and upwards! I had the Watford commentary on my stream I loved how they kept going on about us playing a ridiculously high line. I think Wilmot is going to be ideal for Schu and make playing that way even better. And yeah we might get tonked occasionally. So what. |
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Post by peterthornesboots on Dec 30, 2023 10:18:06 GMT
I think that there is a much different feel to what we are trying to do now.
Under AN if always felt like our first priority was trying to limit or nulify our opponents. Schuey seems to have a much more positive mindset where his first thought is what problems can we pose.
Obviously Schuey us still getting his feet under the table. He as had three games in quick succession and will have had pretty limited time on the training ground. He will still be learning about the squad and what they are capable of.
5 points from three games is not a bad little return really.
Onwards and upwards!
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Post by milky on Dec 30, 2023 10:27:57 GMT
The question is a simple one. Which would folk prefer to watch ? A performance like last night ,despite its obvious flaws ? Or one where we are clearly time wasting at 0 -0 at home to the team bottom of the league? I know which one I prefer... This, 100%, although you missed the bit where we'd concede a late goal to lose 0-1 😏 And we got what we deserved and I class that as collateral damage as it was the final nail in the coffin for the arrogant bluffer with massive delusions of grandeur. |
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Post by TinkerT on Dec 30, 2023 10:31:44 GMT
I'm actually looking forward to watching us play again after years of absolutely dreading it. Early days for sure but big improvement so far. Exactly how I feel. It was feeling like a chore and total boredom watching games. Can actually say I've enjoyed watching the last 3 games, and that's all down to SS. |
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Post by milky on Dec 30, 2023 10:33:53 GMT
We played some lovely stuff. It wasn’t perfect but you can see how we’re trying to evolve. Not something that’s been said often about Stoke in recent years. Plenty of moaners on here who apparently saw a shit performance but it was far from it. I certainly didn't see a shit performance. After the sending off I think we got a bit excitable and scattergun ,trying to rush things ,playing quick one twos that didn't amount to anything. That said we did manage to carve out 3 half decent chances to win it but we could have easily lost it but I'd sooner us risk that in trying to win rather than being shit scared of losing. |
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Post by skemstokie on Dec 30, 2023 12:29:17 GMT
I think that there is a much different feel to what we are trying to do now. Under AN if always felt like our first priority was trying to limit or nulify our opponents. Schuey seems to have a much more positive mindset where his first thought is what problems can we pose. Obviously Schuey us still getting his feet under the table. He as had three games in quick succession and will have had pretty limited time on the training ground. He will still be learning about the squad and what they are capable of. 5 points from three games is not a bad little return really. Onwards and upwards! Add on the fact 2 out the 3 games were away games also. |
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Dec 31, 2023 9:22:36 GMT
I have noted the high line and the fact the ball reaches our front players more rapidly. Plus we have far greater numbers getting into their third. I did have a little fright each time we gave sloppily gave away possession in a dangerous area; but rather see that than 50% of the match watching the defenders pass it to each other in our half. Schu has certainly increased our XG - we can’t radically improve our play without taking a few risks initially.
Main thing is I actually look forward to the next match, glad we’ve had Schu managing us this Christmas!!
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Dec 31, 2023 10:27:24 GMT
I have noted the high line and the fact the ball reaches our front players more rapidly. Plus we have far greater numbers getting into their third. I did have a little fright each time we gave sloppily gave away possession in a dangerous area; but rather see that than 50% of the match watching the defenders pass it to each other in our half. Schu has certainly increased our XG - we can’t radically improve our play without taking a few risks initially. Main thing is I actually look forward to the next match, glad we’ve had Schu managing us this Christmas!! Spot on. And because we are on the front foot more we are winning 50 50s deeper in the opposition half making it more likely we create chances as we move their defensive lines about under more pressure. And it's just more exciting to watch. Sure we're going to get countered more. But to be fair that was happening anyway. I think Schumacher is a very good fit for Stoke at this point in time. We needed that change in outlook. Hopefully he goes on to take us forward this next 18 months and who knows maybe a sniff of the play offs 🙏 |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Dec 31, 2023 10:34:04 GMT
A great album by Gang Of Four 👍👍👍
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