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Post by lawrieleslie on Dec 22, 2023 15:25:44 GMT
No I would have the contracts written so that I could. It is about time players could be sacked like everyone else. No player would sign the contract so how do you attract players? I don't think you've thought this one through 😂 But if every professional club agreed to write this into players contracts suddenly the tide would turn with respect to player and agent power…….. Clause 5.a.iii. On the recommendation of the Head Coach your contract will be terminated immediately and without appeal or compensation for the remaining term of said contract. That would fuck them over good and proper.
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Post by Goonie on Dec 22, 2023 15:38:46 GMT
I would defend the manager, not back him financially and swim through my cash like Scrooge McDuck while laughing at the 1000 experts in the stands who fund my nocturnal numismatic natations
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Dec 22, 2023 16:20:20 GMT
No player would sign the contract so how do you attract players? I don't think you've thought this one through 😂 But if every professional club agreed to write this into players contracts suddenly the tide would turn with respect to player and agent power…….. Clause 5.a.iii. On the recommendation of the Head Coach your contract will be terminated immediately and without appeal or compensation for the remaining term of said contract. That would fuck them over good and proper. It really isn't that straightforward. And getting every professional club to agree would never happen either.
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Post by march4 on Dec 22, 2023 16:32:06 GMT
So long as the results were good, I wouldn’t really be bothered about the concerns of fans, the media or other clubs.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 22, 2023 16:41:17 GMT
No player would sign the contract so how do you attract players? I don't think you've thought this one through 😂 But if every professional club agreed to write this into players contracts suddenly the tide would turn with respect to player and agent power…….. Clause 5.a.iii. On the recommendation of the Head Coach your contract will be terminated immediately and without appeal or compensation for the remaining term of said contract. That would fuck them over good and proper. Still don’t get the idea it would be legally unenforceable unless the other party got the same sort of freedom/lack of commitment? Why should a commercial entity trump an individuals human rights. Sounds like a recipe for a horrific society.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 22, 2023 16:43:16 GMT
So long as the results were good, I wouldn’t really be bothered about the concerns of fans, the media or other clubs. Yeah that would be a great business model “fuck the customers it’s all about me”
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Dec 22, 2023 17:05:41 GMT
If I owned a football club I'd sell it and put the money into something far less risky. Not worth the grief 😆
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Post by lawrieleslie on Dec 22, 2023 19:51:03 GMT
But if every professional club agreed to write this into players contracts suddenly the tide would turn with respect to player and agent power…….. Clause 5.a.iii. On the recommendation of the Head Coach your contract will be terminated immediately and without appeal or compensation for the remaining term of said contract. That would fuck them over good and proper. Still don’t get the idea it would be legally unenforceable unless the other party got the same sort of freedom/lack of commitment? Why should a commercial entity trump an individuals human rights. Sounds like a recipe for a horrific society. I was slightly tongue in cheek bb. Joe Public as an employee are generally more of an overhead than an asset to a company.whereas multi-million pound prima donnas, aka footballers, are more of an asset so therefore hold all the power.
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Post by senojbor on Dec 23, 2023 0:59:49 GMT
The only players willing to sign such a contract would be cast-offs or over the hill types desperate to just get into football by whatever means, like those from the Boot Dreams programme. Or you'd need a very savvy recruitment structure to spot players with potential that other clubs haven't and then sign them up to a more typical employment contract like what you and I have with our employers. The problem is, just as you can fire them whenever you like they too can also quit and sign for another club whenever they like. There would be constant churn which would disrupt team dynamics and the manager would struggle to implement an established system or style of play. You're still not thinking rationally. Any contract where you have slim commitment to your employee will in turn have to offer them slim commitment to you otherwise it would be deemed an unfair contract akin to modern slavery. If you want to get rid of people willy nilly you also have to accept they can walk away willy nilly. that's why the suggestion would be destined to fail. A couple of good games and they'd be off elsewhere, you'd never get anywhere. Most boring post ever.
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Post by senojbor on Dec 23, 2023 1:03:33 GMT
If I had enough money to own and finance a football club, then the last thing on my mind would be owning a football club
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Post by baconburger on Dec 23, 2023 8:47:29 GMT
You're still not thinking rationally. Any contract where you have slim commitment to your employee will in turn have to offer them slim commitment to you otherwise it would be deemed an unfair contract akin to modern slavery. If you want to get rid of people willy nilly you also have to accept they can walk away willy nilly. that's why the suggestion would be destined to fail. A couple of good games and they'd be off elsewhere, you'd never get anywhere. Most boring post ever. Reality eh!
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Post by wazbagsbro on Dec 23, 2023 16:33:50 GMT
So long as the results were good, I wouldn’t really be bothered about the concerns of fans, the media or other clubs. I didn’t get my question over very well but if you own the club, employed a successful manager on huge wages, he looses week after week at home and thousands of supporters can see the problem. How easy is it to sack the manager. Do 1000 supporters know more than one manager????? . If we’ve followed Stoke all over the country for 30, 40, 50 years don’t we know something about footie. Or does a manager with a promotion on his cv know more ( tactically)
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