If u were a new manager

[wazbagsbro]

Of a league club would you go straight to social media to see what supporters think/ want
This site would probably make him change his mind about managing Stoke.
What’s most important things he should know

[Deleted]

No, but I don't do social media other than this place anyway, and if I wasn't a Stoke fan I'd be nowhere near this place.

[AlbertTatlock]

This site would show any new or existing manager just how passionate the fans are, how well we want our team to perform, how much our team means to us and that nothing less than 100% from everyone is what we expect.

Nothing wrong with any of that and if we think the players or management are not giving their all we'll damn sure let them know.

Gouranga.

[upthefud]

I’d want to know:
- my wages
- the situation of my staff
- the situation of staff already at the club
- my operating budget
- analysis on current levels of playing squad
- areas of strength and weakness
- a detailed report on the academy
- the short medium and long term ambition of the club

I wouldn’t want to know:
- what some trolls on an internet forum think

[bayernoatcake]

I’d hope not.

Tbh I think it’s pretty weak minded to give a shit what people think.

Easier said than done obviously.

[wuzza]

If I were a 39 year old bloke who was about to become financially bullet proof for the rest of my days I suspect I wouldn’t be overly worried about the madhouse that is social media.

[stokiejoe89]

Dec 18, 2023 22:29:42 GMT bayernoatcake said:

I’d hope not.

Tbh I think it’s pretty weak minded to give a shit what people think.

Easier said than done obviously.

I think it's weak minded to let a few comments bother you I agree. But if it was 95% of comments..

But let's just say I hope Beale or his family aren't looking on Sunderland twitter or forums today 😂

[boskampsflaps]

Dec 18, 2023 22:09:37 GMT wazbagsbro said:

Of a league club would you go straight to social media to see what supporters think/ want
This site would probably make him change his mind about managing Stoke.
What’s most important things he should know

No, no manager should give a shit about what the fans think re team selection.

[bayernoatcake]

Dec 18, 2023 22:32:47 GMT stokiejoe89 said:

Dec 18, 2023 22:29:42 GMT bayernoatcake said:

I’d hope not.

Tbh I think it’s pretty weak minded to give a shit what people think.

Easier said than done obviously.

I think it's weak minded to let a few comments bother you I agree. But if it was 95% of comments..

But let's just say I hope Beale or his family aren't looking on Sunderland twitter or forums today 😂

I still think it is.

You can’t let it get to you. Again, way easier said than done but you just can’t.

You’ve got to have the self belief in your talent that you can make it work and prove every single one of them wrong.

[cvillestokie]

No. I’d sit down and watch all of their previous games that season, especially their losses and try to figure out why they happened.

If you are a manager of a club, you should be able to have more insight than a fan.

[rivival]

I'd be having a good look at previous games for the first job on my list and that is appoint a captain. A good leader on and off the pitch can really make a team. Second job is to asses my keeper, is he good enough or am I in the market? Job 3 defence why have Stoke let so many results go late on in the game. Is that my defence sleeping or bad game management? Again defence needs a leader that's where I'm putting my vice captain. Midfield is where I want my captain so he can affect all of the pitch. Most games are won and lost in midfield so must have good engines and battle mindset for me. Lastly attack. If the defence is solid and the midfield is busy attack should be the easy bit, however, I need competition here . Players fighting to get on and score and willing to get back when needed , no half arsed tossers.

All sounds so easy doesn't it. So why have we had so many supposedly good managers that have failed at Stoke? For me the answer is time. Not one of our recent managers have put together enough good results to warrant the time needed to build a good team. They have all tried to run before they could walk, daft ideas, players out of position, one fixed formation you name it we've seen every wrong thing you could dream of. Basics are what's needed first. Sort the Keeper and his defence. Stop the silly season on mistakes at the back. Take away those mistakes and we would be comfortable mid table not in a relegation fight. Good luck to who ever gets the job I wouldn't like it (apart from the wages) A lot of hard work to do and an expectant crowd and owner piling on pressure.

[thornestein]

Dec 18, 2023 22:29:42 GMT bayernoatcake said:

I’d hope not.

Tbh I think it’s pretty weak minded to give a shit what people think.

Easier said than done obviously.

i don’t give a fook what you think 😉🤣

[CBUFAWKIPWH]

Dec 19, 2023 2:40:33 GMT rivival said:

I'd be having a good look at previous games for the first job on my list and that is appoint a captain. A good leader on and off the pitch can really make a team. Second job is to asses my keeper, is he good enough or am I in the market? Job 3 defence why have Stoke let so many results go late on in the game. Is that my defence sleeping or bad game management? Again defence needs a leader that's where I'm putting my vice captain. Midfield is where I want my captain so he can affect all of the pitch. Most games are won and lost in midfield so must have good engines and battle mindset for me. Lastly attack. If the defence is solid and the midfield is busy attack should be the easy bit, however, I need competition here . Players fighting to get on and score and willing to get back when needed , no half arsed tossers.

All sounds so easy doesn't it. So why have we had so many supposedly good managers that have failed at Stoke? For me the answer is time. Not one of our recent managers have put together enough good results to warrant the time needed to build a good team. They have all tried to run before they could walk, daft ideas, players out of position, one fixed formation you name it we've seen every wrong thing you could dream of. Basics are what's needed first. Sort the Keeper and his defence. Stop the silly season on mistakes at the back. Take away those mistakes and we would be comfortable mid table not in a relegation fight. Good luck to who ever gets the job I wouldn't like it (apart from the wages) A lot of hard work to do and an expectant crowd and owner piling on pressure.

Amen to that.

[bayernoatcake]

Dec 19, 2023 6:36:57 GMT thornestein said:

Dec 18, 2023 22:29:42 GMT bayernoatcake said:

I’d hope not.

Tbh I think it’s pretty weak minded to give a shit what people think.

Easier said than done obviously.

i don’t give a fook what you think 😉🤣

And you shouldn’t.

[Goonie]

A new manager here has to realise we have been starved of success for 7 years, that a significant amount of supporters would like us to play an exciting brand of football but have been consistently failed by a succession of managers promising this plus success and delivered little.

That the fan base has gone from fury, to disappointment into apathy and that there is pressure from day one to give us some hope that we can return to winning ways and not to give up all together.

If he can ensure the players give total effort, that we are competitive and have a chance of winning a game then that will be a decent place to start.

[baconburger]

Dec 18, 2023 22:22:23 GMT upthefud said:

I’d want to know:
- my wages
- the situation of my staff
- the situation of staff already at the club
- my operating budget
- analysis on current levels of playing squad
- areas of strength and weakness
- a detailed report on the academy
- the short medium and long term ambition of the club

I wouldn’t want to know:
- what some trolls on an internet forum think

Them “trolls” are your customer base. It’s a real bad start to your management to think of them with distain, I don’t think that’s a great policy in any industry but you’re the big shot 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[swampySCFC]

Dec 18, 2023 22:09:37 GMT wazbagsbro said:

Of a league club would you go straight to social media to see what supporters think/ want
This site would probably make him change his mind about managing Stoke.
What’s most important things he should know

What day is pay day

[march4]

I would want to bring in a captain with leadership qualities, preferably a centre back.

Then I would want to sort out the forward line. I would look to sell the ones who don’t perform well between now and the transfer window and replace them with a strong, goalscorer.

Then I would address the goalkeeping and left back issues. Again I would like to bring in at least one leader into those roles.

Finally, it would be the support staff who would face a reshuffle. I’m hoping he will bring his coaching and technical team with him so those we currently have who don’t meet his requirements will also leave.

[Bojan Mackey]

I wouldn’t be arsed at all, and I think the next generation of managers who grew up in the internet age won’t be either.

People tell you to kill yourself online and abuse your entire family if you misgender a butterfly these days, just part and parcel of social media.

Should it be acceptable? No, but you can choose whether to let it affect you or not, it’s faceless throwaway cuntery at the end of the day.

[baconburger]

Dec 19, 2023 9:59:08 GMT march4 said:

I would want to bring in a captain with leadership qualities, preferably a centre back.

Then I would want to sort out the forward line. I would look to sell the ones who don’t perform well between now and the transfer window and replace them with a strong, goalscorer.

Then I would address the goalkeeping and left back issues. Again I would like to bring in at least one leader into those roles.

Finally, it would be the support staff who would face a reshuffle. I’m hoping he will bring his coaching and technical team with him so those we currently have who don’t meet his requirements will also leave.

You should write fantasy novels “sell the ones who don’t perform” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[march4]

Dec 19, 2023 10:01:25 GMT baconburger said:

Dec 19, 2023 9:59:08 GMT march4 said:

I would want to bring in a captain with leadership qualities, preferably a centre back.

Then I would want to sort out the forward line. I would look to sell the ones who don’t perform well between now and the transfer window and replace them with a strong, goalscorer.

Then I would address the goalkeeping and left back issues. Again I would like to bring in at least one leader into those roles.

Finally, it would be the support staff who would face a reshuffle. I’m hoping he will bring his coaching and technical team with him so those we currently have who don’t meet his requirements will also leave.

You should write fantasy novels “sell the ones who don’t perform” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

There must be resale value on Mmaee and Vidigal if the manager doesn’t want them. Same with Campbell. It might not be a huge sum, but it’s something.

[Pugsley]

Dec 19, 2023 9:59:08 GMT march4 said:

I would want to bring in a captain with leadership qualities, preferably a centre back.

Then I would want to sort out the forward line. I would look to sell the ones who don’t perform well between now and the transfer window and replace them with a strong, goalscorer.

Then I would address the goalkeeping and left back issues. Again I would like to bring in at least one leader into those roles.

Finally, it would be the support staff who would face a reshuffle. I’m hoping he will bring his coaching and technical team with him so those we currently have who don’t meet his requirements will also leave.

Perhaps we could do a buy one get one free offer?

[march4]

Dec 19, 2023 10:05:16 GMT Pugsley said:

Dec 19, 2023 9:59:08 GMT march4 said:

I would want to bring in a captain with leadership qualities, preferably a centre back.

Then I would want to sort out the forward line. I would look to sell the ones who don’t perform well between now and the transfer window and replace them with a strong, goalscorer.

Then I would address the goalkeeping and left back issues. Again I would like to bring in at least one leader into those roles.

Finally, it would be the support staff who would face a reshuffle. I’m hoping he will bring his coaching and technical team with him so those we currently have who don’t meet his requirements will also leave.

Perhaps we could do a buy one get one free offer?

Buy one get the whole lot of them!

Seriously, the Campbell contract situation has to be sorted.

[baconburger]

Dec 19, 2023 10:04:22 GMT march4 said:

Dec 19, 2023 10:01:25 GMT baconburger said:

You should write fantasy novels “sell the ones who don’t perform” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

There must be resale value on Mmaee and Vidigal if the manager doesn’t want them. Same with Campbell. It might not be a huge sum, but it’s something.

So you want to sell the players who might score for peanuts and keep the ones who definitely won’t. That seems like a sensible policy🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

It all depends on whether the manager fancies which players. AN could probably have shifted Baker’s wages and bought in a reasonably well paid championship player without even noticing but Schu might think he can be a major player for him. It’s not about what you want and who you’ve decided you don’t like.

[Northy]

The first thing I'd do is to ask someone if I'd spelt u correctly as it doesn't look right.

[biglad180]

If i was the new manager i would get all the players together we only want players who want to be here,and say if you do not want to give your all for our club let me know and in january you can go look for another club,players here have had it easy for a few years,it as to stop,

[Pugsley]

Dec 19, 2023 10:07:13 GMT march4 said:

Dec 19, 2023 10:05:16 GMT Pugsley said:

Perhaps we could do a buy one get one free offer?

Buy one get the whole lot of them!

Seriously, the Campbell contract situation has to be sorted.

I know mate, there is a million and one things to be sorted thanks to Neil and his chronies.

He needs to work out how to get the the team performing at a consistent level and winning games of football.  We're in a perilous position.  That's the priority.

[march4]

Dec 19, 2023 10:08:34 GMT baconburger said:

Dec 19, 2023 10:04:22 GMT march4 said:

There must be resale value on Mmaee and Vidigal if the manager doesn’t want them. Same with Campbell. It might not be a huge sum, but it’s something.

So you want to sell the players who might score for peanuts and keep the ones who definitely won’t. That seems like a sensible policy🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I want to sell any of the current forward line who the manager doesn’t rate while they have a resale value. It’s not as though we are a team rich in goals.

What would you do? Bring in new forwards and leave the non-performers in the u21s losing value and costing a wage? That is just daft.

[vidigal7]

Don't do social media including the forum,  its not a healthy place for a manager, just listen to the radio stoke football phone ins ( praise & Grumble in particular)

[baconburger]

Dec 19, 2023 10:14:01 GMT march4 said:

Dec 19, 2023 10:08:34 GMT baconburger said:

So you want to sell the players who might score for peanuts and keep the ones who definitely won’t. That seems like a sensible policy🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I want to sell any of the current forward line who the manager doesn’t rate while they have a resale value. It’s not as though we are a team rich in goals.

What would you do? Bring in new forwards and leave the non-performers in the u21s losing value and costing a wage? That is just daft.

Yet again you won’t seem to accept that selling players at a loss is in no way helpful. If you look at my edit you can see an example of how we could free up a wage but that’s entirely dependent of the new manager’s assessment of the players not yours, not mine, not the last managers. Some players will be completely impossible to shift until their contract expires we can’t just lock them in a cupboard and refill their squad spaces that’s just another denial of the financial realities of which you’re so fond.