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Post by borat on Dec 17, 2023 14:13:53 GMT
Great point today and ,Gooch and Burger were brilliant but the reality is we haven't won in 8 games which is a terrible run, need to beat Millwall next week because the longer it goes on the harder it will be to win.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Dec 17, 2023 14:16:00 GMT
Great point today and ,Gooch and Burger were brilliant but the reality is we haven't won in 8 games which is a terrible run, need to beat Millwall next week because the longer it goes on the harder it will be to win. The frustrating thing is that two individual errors have cost us points this week. Bonham against Swansea (although he was excellent today) and then Rose's moment of madness today. I think Gallagher will be frustrated that we do not have 4 points to show for our efforts.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 17, 2023 14:17:31 GMT
Great point today and ,Gooch and Burger were brilliant but the reality is we haven't won in 8 games which is a terrible run, need to beat Millwall next week because the longer it goes on the harder it will be to win. The frustrating thing is that two individual errors have cost us points this week. Bonham against Swansea (although he was excellent today) and then Rose's moment of madness today. I think Gallagher will be frustrated that we do not have 4 points to show for our efforts. Stats say you’re wrong. Only score one goal a game and you won’t win very many at all. And let’s face it we’ve only got 1 from a fluke and a soft penno in consecutive games.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Dec 17, 2023 14:17:38 GMT
Having another lovely season are we?
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Post by peterthornesboots on Dec 17, 2023 14:21:39 GMT
The frustrating thing is that two individual errors have cost us points this week. Bonham against Swansea (although he was excellent today) and then Rose's moment of madness today. I think Gallagher will be frustrated that we do not have 4 points to show for our efforts. Stats say you’re wrong. Only score one goal a game and you won’t win very many at all. I am not sure what you are disagreeing with me about? 😅 Bonham's mistake on Tuesday cost us two points. I am not sure that is an unfair assessment?
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Post by baconburger on Dec 17, 2023 14:25:42 GMT
Stats say you’re wrong. Only score one goal a game and you won’t win very many at all. I am not sure what you are disagreeing with me about? 😅 Bonham's mistake on Tuesday cost us two points. I am not sure that is an unfair assessment? You don’t understand we’ve only scored 1 goal in each game and it will rarely be enough to win you games in a league that’s averaging 3 goals per game this season. Seems blindingly obvious to me.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Dec 17, 2023 14:27:06 GMT
I am not sure what you are disagreeing with me about? 😅 Bonham's mistake on Tuesday cost us two points. I am not sure that is an unfair assessment? You don’t understand we’ve only scored 1 goal in each game and it will rarely be enough to win you games in a league that’s averaging 3 goals per game this season. Seems blindingly obvious to me. What has that got to do with my original post about individual errors costing us points?
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Post by wuzza on Dec 17, 2023 14:27:15 GMT
Frankly we play like a team that doesn’t expect to win so the fact that we haven’t for so long should suprise no one.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 17, 2023 14:29:35 GMT
You don’t understand we’ve only scored 1 goal in each game and it will rarely be enough to win you games in a league that’s averaging 3 goals per game this season. Seems blindingly obvious to me. What has that got to do with my original post about individual errors costing us points? It’s got everything to do with it. You seem to think we can make a success out of being a low scoring team. Quite frankly I think that’s bollox.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Dec 17, 2023 14:31:12 GMT
What has that got to do with my original post about individual errors costing us points? It’s got everything to do with it. You seem to think we can make a success out of being a low scoring team. Quite frankly I think that’s bollox. I have literally said on multiple threads that our lack of goals and creativity is why we are in danger of relegation.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 17, 2023 14:34:18 GMT
It’s got everything to do with it. You seem to think we can make a success out of being a low scoring team. Quite frankly I think that’s bollox. I have literally said on multiple threads that our lack of goals and creativity is why we are in danger of relegation. Well we’ve been lucky to get 1 on both occasions so 2 pts is a pretty reasonable return on how we’ve approached the games, ie like minnows in a cup tie.
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Post by lordb on Dec 17, 2023 14:36:33 GMT
I have literally said on multiple threads that our lack of goals and creativity is why we are in danger of relegation. Well we’ve been lucky to get 1 on both occasions so 2 pts is a pretty reasonable return on how we’ve approached the games, ie like minnows in a cup tie. Lucky today Unlucky not to win v Swansea should have 3 points instead of 2
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Post by bagnallboothen on Dec 17, 2023 14:39:01 GMT
It’s got everything to do with it. You seem to think we can make a success out of being a low scoring team. Quite frankly I think that’s bollox. I have literally said on multiple threads that our lack of goals and creativity is why we are in danger of relegation. I wouldn't waste your battery. It's blatantly obvious we don't score enough goals, it's also blatantly obvious that we continue to make individual errors that cost points. Gallagher will be disappointed with 2 points, especially given the missed chances and the nature of the goal conceded against Swansea. Sadly this is a case of another poster taking up every thread posting the same thing because he's been arsed to research how many goals a game you need to be successful. Think we all got the point about a month ago.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 17, 2023 14:40:06 GMT
Well we’ve been lucky to get 1 on both occasions so 2 pts is a pretty reasonable return on how we’ve approached the games, ie like minnows in a cup tie. Lucky today Unlucky not to win v Swansea should have 3 points instead of 2 Lucky to get a goal not a point. The stats say if you only score 1 goal per game you’re very unlikely to win.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 17, 2023 14:41:48 GMT
I have literally said on multiple threads that our lack of goals and creativity is why we are in danger of relegation. I wouldn't waste your battery. It's blatantly obvious we don't score enough goals, it's also blatantly obvious that we continue to make individual errors that cost points. Gallagher will be disappointed with 2 points, especially given the missed chances and the nature of the goal conceded against Swansea. Sadly this is a case of another poster taking up every thread posting the same thing because he's been arsed to research how many goals a game you need to be successful. Think we all got the point about a month ago. Well if you got it a month ago why are you all so surprised when it turns out 1 goal is not enough.
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Post by moon on Dec 17, 2023 14:41:59 GMT
I am not sure what you are disagreeing with me about? 😅 Bonham's mistake on Tuesday cost us two points. I am not sure that is an unfair assessment? You don’t understand we’ve only scored 1 goal in each game and it will rarely be enough to win you games in a league that’s averaging 3 goals per game this season. Seems blindingly obvious to me. You only have to score one goal more than the opposition to win.
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Post by stokiesteve on Dec 17, 2023 14:42:23 GMT
Don’t care. Would have taken a point at the start all day long.
Expected a 3-0 defeat or similar.
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Post by scfcwebby on Dec 17, 2023 14:43:44 GMT
Don’t care. Would have taken a point at the start all day long. Expected a 3-0 defeat or similar. Here in lies the problem with our fans
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Post by peterthornesboots on Dec 17, 2023 14:44:20 GMT
I have literally said on multiple threads that our lack of goals and creativity is why we are in danger of relegation. I wouldn't waste your battery. It's blatantly obvious we don't score enough goals, it's also blatantly obvious that we continue to make individual errors that cost points. Gallagher will be disappointed with 2 points, especially given the missed chances and the nature of the goal conceded against Swansea. Sadly this is a case of another poster taking up every thread posting the same thing because he's been arsed to research how many goals a game you need to be successful. Think we all got the point about a month ago. My overall point was that Gallagher has done a decent job at steadying the ship. He had 24 hours to prepare for the Swansea game and was taking over a team that had lost three on the spin. It was never going to be pretty, but he probably feels a little unfortunate not to have gotten more than 2 points on the board from his first two games in management.
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Post by bagnallboothen on Dec 17, 2023 14:44:59 GMT
I wouldn't waste your battery. It's blatantly obvious we don't score enough goals, it's also blatantly obvious that we continue to make individual errors that cost points. Gallagher will be disappointed with 2 points, especially given the missed chances and the nature of the goal conceded against Swansea. Sadly this is a case of another poster taking up every thread posting the same thing because he's been arsed to research how many goals a game you need to be successful. Think we all got the point about a month ago. Well if you got it a month ago why are you all so surprised when it turns out 1 goal is not enough. Who's surprised? We're 19th for a reason, we're not very good. That said the last 2 games have been an improvement, that's all people are saying and you keep replying that we need to score 16 goals a game to win. Care to explain how we go about it?
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Post by baconburger on Dec 17, 2023 14:46:49 GMT
You don’t understand we’ve only scored 1 goal in each game and it will rarely be enough to win you games in a league that’s averaging 3 goals per game this season. Seems blindingly obvious to me. You only have to score one goal more than the opposition to win. Yeah sure if you like in hypothetical world you could win every game 1-0. Unfortunately we’re living in the world as it really is and there isn’t a team in the league doing well that isn’t scoring 1.5 goals per game or more.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 17, 2023 14:48:15 GMT
Well if you got it a month ago why are you all so surprised when it turns out 1 goal is not enough. Who's surprised? We're 19th for a reason, we're not very good. That said the last 2 games have been an improvement, that's all people are saying and you keep replying that we need to score 16 goals a game to win. Care to explain how we go about it? Not 16 1.6. Find me a team that’s doing well that isn’t.
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Post by milky on Dec 17, 2023 14:49:43 GMT
5 games unbeaten so Mr Big Ego himself fucks off on holiday during the international break.
The legacy of Alex Neil .
50 plus years of supporting Stoke and the manager I've disliked the most ,by far.
Bearing in mind this period includes Ball ,Jordan ,Bates ,Kamara,Rowett and Jones among others.
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Post by bagnallboothen on Dec 17, 2023 14:51:56 GMT
Who's surprised? We're 19th for a reason, we're not very good. That said the last 2 games have been an improvement, that's all people are saying and you keep replying that we need to score 16 goals a game to win. Care to explain how we go about it? Not 16 1.6. Find me a team that’s doing well that isn’t. Preston. On the flip side Plymouth are and they've got 3 more points than us.
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Post by theporcelainpele on Dec 17, 2023 15:01:10 GMT
Great point today and ,Gooch and Burger were brilliant but the reality is we haven't won in 8 games which is a terrible run, need to beat Millwall next week because the longer it goes on the harder it will be to win. It’s because Jared Dublin has supplied us with an absolutely woeful bunch of attacking players that would struggle to get into a league 1 side.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 17, 2023 15:04:24 GMT
Not 16 1.6. Find me a team that’s doing well that isn’t. Preston. On the flip side Plymouth are and they've got 3 more points than us. Preston are sinking like a stone (finding their level they were top when they beat us and it was obvious they were so limited the bubble would burst) Plymouth are punching above their weight precisely because they score plenty of goals. I constantly read posters berating our defending/individual errors but teams in the mix concede more or a similar amount of goals but because I constantly point out it’s the fact we don’t score enough goals that is ruining our season and you get posters replying oh yeah but we’re sick of hearing that, if only we could just defend a bit better we would have won. Fools.
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Post by pavel on Dec 17, 2023 15:05:35 GMT
2 points out of 15 along with Millwall and only bettered by Rotherham who are rock bottom. Very scary considering the teams we have played.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 17, 2023 15:07:36 GMT
2 points out of 15 along with Millwall and only bettered by Rotherham who are rock bottom. Very scary considering the teams we have played. Doesn’t matter who we play we’d still set up like they’re Real Madrid.
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Post by willieeetmiout on Dec 17, 2023 15:07:46 GMT
Lucky today Unlucky not to win v Swansea should have 3 points instead of 2 Lucky to get a goal not a point. The stats say if you only score 1 goal per game you’re very unlikely to win. You don't half speak some horse shit
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Post by baconburger on Dec 17, 2023 15:10:04 GMT
Lucky to get a goal not a point. The stats say if you only score 1 goal per game you’re very unlikely to win. You don't half speak some horse shit OK you have obviously found some evidence of low scoring football being successful. What decade are you living in?
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