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Post by vidigal7 on Dec 16, 2023 9:48:11 GMT
Second half particularly I thought they were decent. I think John is holding on to see what Gallagher can do in the short term I get what you're saying mate and I wouldn't be surprised as nothing shocks me anymore when it comes to Stoke. He might make a good manager one day but surely we wouldn't risk that with the shit we are in. I'm not sure what to think anymore about scfc. If Gallagher wins tomorrow I can see and understand an argument for less urgency. For me in an ideal world a manager at any club should be appointed right after the last game of the season or with a small handful of games remaining. It gives them time to put their mark by the transfer window and ideas in to a team before the start of a new season. What we don't need is to spend good money on a replacement who isn't really suited to the players we've got and then him limping over the finish line, he's going to be on borrowed time in the fans eyes going into the start of next season
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Post by captainmainwaring on Dec 16, 2023 9:50:53 GMT
Second half particularly I thought they were decent. I think John is holding on to see what Gallagher can do in the short term Oh no he isn't.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Dec 16, 2023 9:51:26 GMT
I get what you're saying mate and I wouldn't be surprised as nothing shocks me anymore when it comes to Stoke. He might make a good manager one day but surely we wouldn't risk that with the shit we are in. I'm not sure what to think anymore about scfc. If Gallagher wins tomorrow I can see and understand an argument for less urgency. For me in an ideal world a manager at any club should be appointed right after the last game of the season or with a small handful of games remaining. It gives them time to put their mark by the transfer window and ideas in to a team before the start of a new season. What we don't need is to spend good money on a replacement who isn't really suited to the players we've got and then him limping over the finish line, he's going to be on borrowed time in the fans eyes going into the start of next season Yes they have to get this one right one hundred percent because if they don't I dread to think to be honest and I think that is what everyone is worried about as the last appointments haven't exactly gone to plan.
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Post by vidigal7 on Dec 16, 2023 9:53:13 GMT
I'm not sure what to think anymore about scfc. If Gallagher wins tomorrow I can see and understand an argument for less urgency. For me in an ideal world a manager at any club should be appointed right after the last game of the season or with a small handful of games remaining. It gives them time to put their mark by the transfer window and ideas in to a team before the start of a new season. What we don't need is to spend good money on a replacement who isn't really suited to the players we've got and then him limping over the finish line, he's going to be on borrowed time in the fans eyes going into the start of next season Yes they have to get this one right one hundred percent because if they don't I dread to think to be honest and I think that is what everyone is worried about as the last appointments haven't exactly gone to plan. I'm not even sure a new manager in now has the time to assess before entering the window with an educated idea of what is needed. We'll allready have targets and areas for improvement lined up won't we?
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Post by vidigal7 on Dec 16, 2023 10:05:02 GMT
Second half particularly I thought they were decent. I think John is holding on to see what Gallagher can do in the short term Oh no he isn't. Tis a bit quiet Captain, given our track record of appointments I'd actually be suprised if we don't see what Gallagher and Shawcross can do before getting the cheque book out, they're allready in place with an opportunity to show they can do the job and they know the squad
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Dec 16, 2023 10:15:10 GMT
Tis a bit quiet Captain, given our track record of appointments I'd actually be suprised if we don't see what Gallagher and Shawcross can do before getting the cheque book out, they're allready in place with an opportunity to show they can do the job I know I keep banging on about all appointments being a gamble. But Ryan and Gallagher really would be a total gamble. It could work and I suppose they know the players. Who knows. I think it'll be Beale or Pearson myself. And I'd be neither delighted or disappointed because either of them could for whatever reason be the right fit at the right time. Its only a game boys so give it a real good fight....we're gonna be snookering you tonight 🎶 🎵 😆
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2023 10:37:40 GMT
I'm kind of in the camp that I'm past caring who the manager is as I reckon its just random luck anyway. And I didn't want Pulis back the 2nd time and I was totally wrong about that obviously. So you know what fook it. Goaaarn ooh ahh Gallagher 😆 I give up. I no longer care... Got to say it bothers me, I'm bored of getting nowhere and big overhauls that don't bare fruit. I want someone with a bit of a profile for a change. I'm not against seeing what Gallagher can do though before bringing in more of the same in Eustace Starting with one attacking player on the pitch and a formation we were arguing about for hours after because nobody could work out what it was supposed to be. He had a free hit and came up with that so no thanks. Gally should be be out of the door asap.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2023 10:42:01 GMT
Tis a bit quiet Captain, given our track record of appointments I'd actually be suprised if we don't see what Gallagher and Shawcross can do before getting the cheque book out, they're allready in place with an opportunity to show they can do the job and they know the squad Shawcross is there to put the cones out, he isn't even second or third in line.
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Post by andystokey on Dec 16, 2023 10:45:13 GMT
Tis a bit quiet Captain, given our track record of appointments I'd actually be suprised if we don't see what Gallagher and Shawcross can do before getting the cheque book out, they're allready in place with an opportunity to show they can do the job and they know the squad Shawcross is there to put the cones out, he isn't even second or third in line. You'd think McNally and Rose could make their own way out. Seriously though, I hope he's been able to drill them because their collective positioning has been shocking all season.
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Post by stokeson on Dec 16, 2023 11:59:16 GMT
Tis a bit quiet Captain, given our track record of appointments I'd actually be suprised if we don't see what Gallagher and Shawcross can do before getting the cheque book out, they're allready in place with an opportunity to show they can do the job and they know the squad Shawcross is there to put the cones out, he isn't even second or third in line. You really dont have any time for one of our best ever players do you?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2023 12:03:57 GMT
Shawcross is there to put the cones out, he isn't even second or third in line. You really dont have any time for one of our best ever players do you? Not as a coach no, player yes. He needs to prove himself as a coach and we can't afford that luxury. To be fair to Ryan he's doing it the right way and starting off with the youngsters. All this nonsense about handing out jobs to former players boils my piss.
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Post by stokeson on Dec 16, 2023 12:13:04 GMT
You really dont have any time for one of our best ever players do you? Not as a coach no, player yes. He needs to prove himself as a coach and we can't afford that luxury. To be fair to Ryan he's doing it the right way and starting off with the youngsters. All this nonsense about handing out jobs to former players boils my piss. Fair play but i think theres more to him than many give credit. Heard him on radio stoke on match com and he talks alot of sense....
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Dec 16, 2023 13:27:27 GMT
Yes they have to get this one right one hundred percent because if they don't I dread to think to be honest and I think that is what everyone is worried about as the last appointments haven't exactly gone to plan. I'm not even sure a new manager in now has the time to assess before entering the window with an educated idea of what is needed. We'll allready have targets and areas for improvement lined up won't we? Who knows mate it's all a mystery isn't it Vidders but I'm sure we will soon find out.
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Post by vidigal7 on Dec 16, 2023 15:10:15 GMT
Tis a bit quiet Captain, given our track record of appointments I'd actually be suprised if we don't see what Gallagher and Shawcross can do before getting the cheque book out, they're allready in place with an opportunity to show they can do the job I know I keep banging on about all appointments being a gamble. But Ryan and Gallagher really would be a total gamble. It could work and I suppose they know the players. Who knows. I think it'll be Beale or Pearson myself. And I'd be neither delighted or disappointed because either of them could for whatever reason be the right fit at the right time. Its only a game boys so give it a real good fight....we're gonna be snookering you tonight 🎶 🎵 😆 I agree they'd be a gamble but then every appointment is unless you're going out for next level Nuno, Potter etc If they get three points tomorrow and the team plays well, we'd be a few seconds away from 6 points in two games. They only had a day or so to prepare for the last game. I hope we dont end up with some well travelled has been
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Post by cvillestokie on Dec 16, 2023 15:17:12 GMT
I know I keep banging on about all appointments being a gamble. But Ryan and Gallagher really would be a total gamble. It could work and I suppose they know the players. Who knows. I think it'll be Beale or Pearson myself. And I'd be neither delighted or disappointed because either of them could for whatever reason be the right fit at the right time. Its only a game boys so give it a real good fight....we're gonna be snookering you tonight 🎶 🎵 😆 I agree they'd be a gamble but then every appointment is unless you're going out for next level Nuno, Potter etc If they get three points tomorrow and the team plays well, we'd be a few seconds away from 6 points in two games. They only had a day or so to prepare for the last game. I hope we dont end up with some well travelled has been “seconds away from 6 points in two games”: what do you mean? We drew on Tuesday.
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Post by vidigal7 on Dec 16, 2023 15:19:56 GMT
I agree they'd be a gamble but then every appointment is unless you're going out for next level Nuno, Potter etc If they get three points tomorrow and the team plays well, we'd be a few seconds away from 6 points in two games. They only had a day or so to prepare for the last game. I hope we dont end up with some well travelled has been “seconds away from 6 points in two games”: what do you mean? We drew on Tuesday. No I know, What I'm saying is it was an 89th minute equaliser. If they pick up 3 points tomorrow they'd have been seconds away from.6 points in 2 games
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Post by nott1 on Dec 16, 2023 15:40:47 GMT
Shawcross is there to put the cones out, he isn't even second or third in line. You really dont have any time for one of our best ever players do you? But we are talking about manager material.....there is no obvious clue!
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Post by swampySCFC on Dec 16, 2023 16:09:56 GMT
That I 'chose' to miss a home game. There have been times when I have been unable to make the games for a variety of reasons. However, on Saturday, I chose not to attend the game because of total apathy towards the team and the club. I have seen woeful teams down the years, but still I've been to the games. Speaks volumes that on Saturday, I simply could not conjure up the excitement or anticipation for a performance. I listened on the radio instead. I was back there on Tuesday night, and apparently we played better than we had on Saturday, but still the frailties exist. We look like conceding every time a team attacks us, and we rarely look like scoring when we attack. And now we have the fiasco surrounding the new manager, whoever that may be. I do feel the life being beaten out of me by the club, and that saddens me after nearly half a century of support. I just want to see a team that tries hard and actually looks like they want to play for Stoke. I know that players are motivated by money these days, but other teams do seem to have more of a togetherness than we have seen for many seasons. I just hope that the new manager can instil some passion and urgency, and that this, in turn, invigorates the fans to get some noise back in the stadium, The atmosphere was shocking on Tuesday; even the light show was met with muted mumblings of support. I fear that we may never see the top division again for a long time, if ever. I just want to feel some excitement for a match day again, instead of the dread of it ruining another Saturday night. I'm sure that the players, and probably the managers and owners, have absolutely no idea how deep the passion runs for our club, and how it affects a huge part of our thinking. We just want to feel connected again. JC has ruined that bond with the supporters that PC had; just hope the next manager can help to retrieve it. I'll get me coat.... (and tin hat) Fair play mate. We’ve gone from feast to famine in a relatively short time. Soul destroying to see the likes of Luton, Burnley, Wolves etc eating at the top table
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 18, 2023 18:51:14 GMT
When it comes to picking managers, I fear that the owners are stuck in a rut.
As someone once said,
The only difference between a rut and a grave is the dimensions.
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Post by 01782 on Dec 19, 2023 19:14:45 GMT
Thought we played a lot better at West Brom on Sunday, but still frailties in defence and up front.
Today's news has certainly been a tonic. Hope Mr Schumacher gets the adrenaline flowing again.
Roll on Saturday!!
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