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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 13, 2023 22:45:59 GMT
So having spent the last 2 years travelling by rail to Crewe and back every single day for work I’ve never known our rail services to be in such disarray. Last week the Mick Lynch mob held strikes which really fucked me up as lots of the cancellations were last minute. I knew it was coming so prepared best I could. This week, the strikes are supposedly over but it’s way worse than it was last week. Out of 6 of my usual journeys 4 have been cancelled and one was mega late. Blamed on lack of train crew. What the fuck is going on? Can anyone enlighten me? Ever since that c**t got on his soap box tens of thousands of people have been unable to get to destinations despite paying an extortionate amount of money to do so. How on earth is any of this justified? People are skint as it is. I’d be interested to know the reasoning
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Post by iancransonsknees on Dec 13, 2023 22:58:37 GMT
So having spent the last 2 years travelling by rail to Crewe and back every single day for work I’ve never known our rail services to be in such disarray. Last week the Mick Lynch mob held strikes which really fucked me up as lots of the cancellations were last minute. I knew it was coming so prepared best I could. This week, the strikes are supposedly over but it’s way worse than it was last week. Out of 6 of my usual journeys 4 have been cancelled and one was mega late. Blamed on lack of train crew. What the fuck is going on? Can anyone enlighten me? Ever since that c**t got on his soap box tens of thousands of people have been unable to get to destinations despite paying an extortionate amount of money to do so. How on earth is any of this justified? People are skint as it is. I’d be interested to know the reasoning His left wing mafia mates Oggy and Wannabee have had a word with him and asked him to arrange it just to piss you off for hating on the last leg.
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Dec 14, 2023 8:14:38 GMT
Post by cdf on Dec 14, 2023 8:14:38 GMT
Trains are always been cancelled for lack of staff, more so than I have ever seen before but you never see a recruitment drive for more staff. Train stations and the trains themselves would be ideal to see some marketing around this but you never see it
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Dec 14, 2023 9:10:59 GMT
Post by Northy on Dec 14, 2023 9:10:59 GMT
I was in London last Friday, tried leaving about 3.00 PM on City Thameslink up to Stevenage (left the car there), trains cancelled and next one an hour away, went up to Kings X and some cancelled, trying to get one heading to Lincoln and ticket ladies stopping people going onto the platform saying its full, she let the barrier down to let one lady through with a reserved seat and about 20 of us piled through to get on and stand for 20 minutes.
Had similar a few weeks ago but later in the evening at 9.30PM, police were stopping people going through the main barriers to platforms as there was just too many trying to get through at that time of night, I ended up on a slow one just to head out and knew I was getting there.
It's a complete shambles half the time.
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Post by cvillestokie on Dec 14, 2023 9:19:58 GMT
So having spent the last 2 years travelling by rail to Crewe and back every single day for work I’ve never known our rail services to be in such disarray. Last week the Mick Lynch mob held strikes which really fucked me up as lots of the cancellations were last minute. I knew it was coming so prepared best I could. This week, the strikes are supposedly over but it’s way worse than it was last week. Out of 6 of my usual journeys 4 have been cancelled and one was mega late. Blamed on lack of train crew. What the fuck is going on? Can anyone enlighten me? Ever since that c**t got on his soap box tens of thousands of people have been unable to get to destinations despite paying an extortionate amount of money to do so. How on earth is any of this justified? People are skint as it is. I’d be interested to know the reasoning I think that the general striking points are: 1) more money 2) removal of planned cuts to public safety (eg network rail is looking to save money by reducing the number of safety inspections). 3) keeping jobs by keeping ticket offices 4) keeping security by keeping guards on trains
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Dec 14, 2023 11:05:50 GMT
Pal of mine came to Manchester to visit a couple of weeks ago. Train strike announced the day he came up from London for the following. So to get back to London on the Sunday he had to go to Sheffield first then change somewhere else in Norfolk and then back into London. Took him 6 hours in the end. A total joke our train system it really is. I'll be keeping my car that's for sure.
HS2 my arse. Northern powerhouse my arse as well.
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Post by Robo10 on Dec 14, 2023 11:32:11 GMT
Strikes aside (that are overtime bans generally not full on walk outs - if they havent got enough staff to cover the trains, why should staff who are being fucked over with pensions and new contracts being forced on them work longer hours?), most of the cancellations are due to flooding
Last week my lad tried to get back to Uni in Loughborough from Stoke, was booked on the 9.30 from Kidsgrove but they were cancelled until 2pm due to the overtime ban He rebooked and was waiting at Kidsgrove for the 2.30 to Derby, but it was cancelled at 2.27pm due to flooding at Alsager, no trains then ran until 5.30pm as they got the pumps in to deal with it
Yesterday he was due to go back to Uni at 9am, trains were cancelled due to flooding at Derby and beyond as the East Mids had loads of rain Tuesday, nothing ran until late on and trains were being cancelled at short notice
Cheap land for railways = flood plains. Building houses on cheap land and bypass roads nearby means the water has nowhere to go bar into the flood plains. Hence rail tracks under water.
Dont blame Mick Lynch, blame God. (or the government for allowing building projects to destroy the natural water flows)
It only takes one of the major interchanges - Derby/Nottingham/Loughborough Junction, Crewe, Birmingham to have any sort of natural weather impact and it screws over the rest of the network.
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Dec 14, 2023 11:33:52 GMT
Post by mrcoke on Dec 14, 2023 11:33:52 GMT
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Dec 14, 2023 13:31:14 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 14, 2023 13:31:14 GMT
So having spent the last 2 years travelling by rail to Crewe and back every single day for work I’ve never known our rail services to be in such disarray. Last week the Mick Lynch mob held strikes which really fucked me up as lots of the cancellations were last minute. I knew it was coming so prepared best I could. This week, the strikes are supposedly over but it’s way worse than it was last week. Out of 6 of my usual journeys 4 have been cancelled and one was mega late. Blamed on lack of train crew. What the fuck is going on? Can anyone enlighten me? Ever since that c**t got on his soap box tens of thousands of people have been unable to get to destinations despite paying an extortionate amount of money to do so. How on earth is any of this justified? People are skint as it is. I’d be interested to know the reasoning I think that the general striking points are: 1) more money 2) removal of planned cuts to public safety (eg network rail is looking to save money by reducing the number of safety inspections). 3) keeping jobs by keeping ticket offices 4) keeping security by keeping guards on trains 2-4 I think are very fair. 1 not so much especially drivers. I wonder if 2-4 were resolved they’d be straight back to work or if they’re just additional ammunition to justify the main reason number 1.
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Post by cvillestokie on Dec 14, 2023 13:38:17 GMT
I think that the general striking points are: 1) more money 2) removal of planned cuts to public safety (eg network rail is looking to save money by reducing the number of safety inspections). 3) keeping jobs by keeping ticket offices 4) keeping security by keeping guards on trains 2-4 I think are very fair. 1 not so much especially drivers. I wonder if 2-4 were resolved they’d be straight back to work or if they’re just additional ammunition to justify the main reason number 1. I think they’d probably spend less giving them a pay bump than they would instigating 2-4, especially 2. Strikes are a grey area for me. They are designed to be inconvenient, so they piss people off. On the other hand, you have to look after yourself and your family, so if your pay isn’t rising how you expect, why wouldn’t you try and take action?
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Post by felonious on Dec 14, 2023 15:07:43 GMT
I was in London last Friday, tried leaving about 3.00 PM on City Thameslink up to Stevenage (left the car there), trains cancelled and next one an hour away, went up to Kings X and some cancelled, trying to get one heading to Lincoln and ticket ladies stopping people going onto the platform saying its full, she let the barrier down to let one lady through with a reserved seat and about 20 of us piled through to get on and stand for 20 minutes. Had similar a few weeks ago but later in the evening at 9.30PM, police were stopping people going through the main barriers to platforms as there was just too many trying to get through at that time of night, I ended up on a slow one just to head out and knew I was getting there. It's a complete shambles half the time. Won't be long before you're heading up to Northwich on the roof
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Dec 14, 2023 15:28:09 GMT
Post by frasier37 on Dec 14, 2023 15:28:09 GMT
I was in London last Friday, tried leaving about 3.00 PM on City Thameslink up to Stevenage (left the car there), trains cancelled and next one an hour away, went up to Kings X and some cancelled, trying to get one heading to Lincoln and ticket ladies stopping people going onto the platform saying its full, she let the barrier down to let one lady through with a reserved seat and about 20 of us piled through to get on and stand for 20 minutes. Had similar a few weeks ago but later in the evening at 9.30PM, police were stopping people going through the main barriers to platforms as there was just too many trying to get through at that time of night, I ended up on a slow one just to head out and knew I was getting there. It's a complete shambles half the time. Won't be long before you're heading up to Northwich on the roof farts smell of bad eggs?
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Dec 14, 2023 16:02:59 GMT
I thought you were pro-rail privatisation? Train driver salaries have increased hugely since as the unions have just picked off the Train Operating Companies one-by-one.
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Dec 14, 2023 16:39:22 GMT
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Post by danceswithclams on Dec 14, 2023 16:39:22 GMT
I'm on a train now.
It's very warm and there are Hassidic Jews.
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Dec 14, 2023 16:50:25 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 14, 2023 16:50:25 GMT
I'm on a train now. It's very warm and there are Hassidic Jews. I’m on a train too. It was due to leave at 16.33 it’s now 16.50. Nobody has said a word. In a nutshell it’s cancelled but nobody can be arsed to tell anyone. Absolute fucking shambles.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 14, 2023 16:52:32 GMT
Well Roger me with a Jurassic butt plug. We’re on the move. I don’t take anything back though it’s a fucking shambles
Clams. The floor is yours……..
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Post by Northy on Dec 14, 2023 17:11:11 GMT
Won't be long before you're heading up to Northwich on the roof farts smell of bad eggs? It's all the vegetables, pulses and beans she keeps feeding me ... No problem after a TGI Friday on Tuesday in Solihull
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Post by milton58 on Dec 14, 2023 17:20:15 GMT
So having spent the last 2 years travelling by rail to Crewe and back every single day for work I’ve never known our rail services to be in such disarray. Last week the Mick Lynch mob held strikes which really fucked me up as lots of the cancellations were last minute. I knew it was coming so prepared best I could. This week, the strikes are supposedly over but it’s way worse than it was last week. Out of 6 of my usual journeys 4 have been cancelled and one was mega late. Blamed on lack of train crew. What the fuck is going on? Can anyone enlighten me? Ever since that c**t got on his soap box tens of thousands of people have been unable to get to destinations despite paying an extortionate amount of money to do so. How on earth is any of this justified? People are skint as it is. I’d be interested to know the reasoning stop moaning ya tart...you could be stuck on dividy road temp traffic lights again
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Dec 14, 2023 17:27:37 GMT
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Post by teenagefanclub on Dec 14, 2023 17:27:37 GMT
Caught train to and from Manchester yesterday, both trains bang on time.
Trains were clean, charged phone on both journeys.
Pretty decent service all round.
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Post by felonious on Dec 14, 2023 17:28:01 GMT
So having spent the last 2 years travelling by rail to Crewe and back every single day for work I’ve never known our rail services to be in such disarray. Last week the Mick Lynch mob held strikes which really fucked me up as lots of the cancellations were last minute. I knew it was coming so prepared best I could. This week, the strikes are supposedly over but it’s way worse than it was last week. Out of 6 of my usual journeys 4 have been cancelled and one was mega late. Blamed on lack of train crew. What the fuck is going on? Can anyone enlighten me? Ever since that c**t got on his soap box tens of thousands of people have been unable to get to destinations despite paying an extortionate amount of money to do so. How on earth is any of this justified? People are skint as it is. I’d be interested to know the reasoning stop moaning ya tart...you could be stuck on dividy road temp traffic lights again Doubt it, his missus won't buy him a car
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Dec 14, 2023 17:36:29 GMT
Post by foghornsgleghorn on Dec 14, 2023 17:36:29 GMT
So having spent the last 2 years travelling by rail to Crewe and back every single day for work I’ve never known our rail services to be in such disarray. Last week the Mick Lynch mob held strikes which really fucked me up as lots of the cancellations were last minute. I knew it was coming so prepared best I could. This week, the strikes are supposedly over but it’s way worse than it was last week. Out of 6 of my usual journeys 4 have been cancelled and one was mega late. Blamed on lack of train crew. What the fuck is going on? Can anyone enlighten me? Ever since that c**t got on his soap box tens of thousands of people have been unable to get to destinations despite paying an extortionate amount of money to do so. How on earth is any of this justified? People are skint as it is. I’d be interested to know the reasoning Mick Lynch's mob weren't on strike last week- they have none planned at present. It was Mick Whelan's mob.
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Dec 14, 2023 17:44:38 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 14, 2023 17:44:38 GMT
So having spent the last 2 years travelling by rail to Crewe and back every single day for work I’ve never known our rail services to be in such disarray. Last week the Mick Lynch mob held strikes which really fucked me up as lots of the cancellations were last minute. I knew it was coming so prepared best I could. This week, the strikes are supposedly over but it’s way worse than it was last week. Out of 6 of my usual journeys 4 have been cancelled and one was mega late. Blamed on lack of train crew. What the fuck is going on? Can anyone enlighten me? Ever since that c**t got on his soap box tens of thousands of people have been unable to get to destinations despite paying an extortionate amount of money to do so. How on earth is any of this justified? People are skint as it is. I’d be interested to know the reasoning stop moaning ya tart...you could be stuck on dividy road temp traffic lights again Oh no not Dividy Rd, my mother doesn’t shut up about it!🤣
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Dec 14, 2023 17:46:09 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 14, 2023 17:46:09 GMT
So having spent the last 2 years travelling by rail to Crewe and back every single day for work I’ve never known our rail services to be in such disarray. Last week the Mick Lynch mob held strikes which really fucked me up as lots of the cancellations were last minute. I knew it was coming so prepared best I could. This week, the strikes are supposedly over but it’s way worse than it was last week. Out of 6 of my usual journeys 4 have been cancelled and one was mega late. Blamed on lack of train crew. What the fuck is going on? Can anyone enlighten me? Ever since that c**t got on his soap box tens of thousands of people have been unable to get to destinations despite paying an extortionate amount of money to do so. How on earth is any of this justified? People are skint as it is. I’d be interested to know the reasoning Mick Lynch's mob weren't on strike last week- they have none planned at present. It was Mick Whelan's mob. He can get fucked n all. Must be a Mick thing😉
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Dec 14, 2023 18:10:03 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 14, 2023 18:10:03 GMT
2-4 I think are very fair. 1 not so much especially drivers. I wonder if 2-4 were resolved they’d be straight back to work or if they’re just additional ammunition to justify the main reason number 1. I think they’d probably spend less giving them a pay bump than they would instigating 2-4, especially 2. Strikes are a grey area for me. They are designed to be inconvenient, so they piss people off. On the other hand, you have to look after yourself and your family, so if your pay isn’t rising how you expect, why wouldn’t you try and take action? I guess a lot depends on greed and how much you think you’re worth, the quality of your work and how much everyone else thinks your worth.
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Dec 14, 2023 18:30:27 GMT
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Dec 14, 2023 18:30:27 GMT
Lots of immigrants coming into the country, trains short staffed.
If only someone out there can put 2 and 2 together.
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Post by roylandstoke on Dec 14, 2023 19:06:59 GMT
Clearly the way we run the railways in Britain is awful.
Privatisation has delivered an expensive inefficient service that has made millions for shareholders, many of whom are foreign investors and even foreign governments,
Maybe we should nationalise the railways.
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Dec 15, 2023 8:40:23 GMT
Post by maxplonk on Dec 15, 2023 8:40:23 GMT
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Post by Northy on Dec 15, 2023 10:54:21 GMT
Clearly the way we run the railways in Britain is awful. Privatisation has delivered an expensive inefficient service that has made millions for shareholders, many of whom are foreign investors and even foreign governments, Maybe we should nationalise the railways. Foreign train companies as well, getting cheap tickets on the back of our very expensive tickets.
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Dec 15, 2023 11:59:54 GMT
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Post by cvillestokie on Dec 15, 2023 11:59:54 GMT
I think they’d probably spend less giving them a pay bump than they would instigating 2-4, especially 2. Strikes are a grey area for me. They are designed to be inconvenient, so they piss people off. On the other hand, you have to look after yourself and your family, so if your pay isn’t rising how you expect, why wouldn’t you try and take action? I guess a lot depends on greed and how much you think you’re worth, the quality of your work and how much everyone else thinks your worth. I think greed is a harsh adjective to use for it, but yeah, the rest I agree with. I’d say that train drivers have a pretty boring but high responsibility job and they are quite likely to witness a death by train suicide at some point in their career, which is something I wouldn’t wish on anyone. If they can’t get the money they are hoping for, they could always try another profession if strike action doesn’t pan out.
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Dec 15, 2023 12:15:59 GMT
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Post by elystokie on Dec 15, 2023 12:15:59 GMT
I guess a lot depends on greed and how much you think you’re worth, the quality of your work and how much everyone else thinks your worth. I think greed is a harsh adjective to use for it, but yeah, the rest I agree with. I’d say that train drivers have a pretty boring but high responsibility job and they are quite likely to witness a death by train suicide at some point in their career, which is something I wouldn’t wish on anyone. If they can’t get the money they are hoping for, they could always try another profession if strike action doesn’t pan out. Not something I'd like to have on my mind whilst I go about my working day. I've no idea what percentage of the strikers are actually train drivers, maybe the rest of the strikers aren't quite so well remunerated?
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