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Post by musik on Dec 13, 2023 7:58:46 GMT
That was awful and yet some think it was better I guess that sums up our current status P Gallagher even said: "The Players were excellent!"
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Post by wilcopotter on Dec 13, 2023 8:02:24 GMT
It was no better than Saturday, Swansea were worse than Wednesday the only difference was we scored the penalty this time, other than that we didn’t look like scoring. Yes, Gooch had a decent game and Laurent decided to look like he could be bothered and ran around a bit. However, the defence looked disjointed and fragile, the defence had no “link up” and provided no service to Maee, who quite frankly is Meh! And yes, a very low bar has been, in fact, I wish the bar could be lowered so that maybe Bonham wouldn’t let so many piss poor goals in. Swansea may have looked worse than Wednesday to you, but don't you accept that teams can be made to look poor because we do well without the ball ? It makes me laugh on here how every time we dominate a game there's a whole bunch of people who say its because the other team played shit. Dominate a game🤔, we had 43% possession 🤣🤣.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 13, 2023 8:08:03 GMT
The league 1 game last night was so much better than that shite I’m sorry but it’s no better than Saturday and it’s unacceptable. It was a lot better, we pressed, we were trying to be quicker with the ball at times and if it wasn't for a crap keeper would have won the game comfortably. No one is saying it was perfect. It wasn’t not perfect it was pretty bloody awful. If AN was still in post it would have been slated. Whatever shade of shit it was it was still shit.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 13, 2023 8:14:20 GMT
That was awful and yet some think it was better I guess that sums up our current status P Gallagher even said: "The Players were excellent!" In that case send him up the road after Alex and Canning. Excellent my arse.
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Post by skip on Dec 13, 2023 8:17:45 GMT
Controversial opinion but maybe the players collectively know that the last month has been a disaster and whether we care what highly paid underperforming footballers think and feel, they can't enjoy losing badly. If Gallagher wants to praise them for their efforts last night, then that's ok.
It was pretty grim football - my youngest describing some passages of play as League 2 standard at best - but their coach isn't about to publicly decry them on the evening they won a point, even if it was two points thrown away.
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Post by idle on Dec 13, 2023 8:37:05 GMT
Swansea may have looked worse than Wednesday to you, but don't you accept that teams can be made to look poor because we do well without the ball ? It makes me laugh on here how every time we dominate a game there's a whole bunch of people who say its because the other team played shit. Dominate a game🤔, we had 43% possession 🤣🤣. So what? Possession never won a single game. We dominated on chances and half-chances to score. That's what football is about. I couldn't care less about possession percentage. In fact, I'm more worried when we have more possession. We gave them their only goal. And, Gooch slipped them their only other one. The rest was one way, at least in the 2nd half.
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Post by redstriper on Dec 13, 2023 8:56:43 GMT
Swansea may have looked worse than Wednesday to you, but don't you accept that teams can be made to look poor because we do well without the ball ? It makes me laugh on here how every time we dominate a game there's a whole bunch of people who say its because the other team played shit. Dominate a game🤔, we had 43% possession 🤣🤣. You're proving the point. They had 57% of the ball and were able to create nothing with it - because we kept our shape, defended well as a team and stopped them effectively for 99% of the time. We created far more, but i get it, you want to see the worst in it for some reason. Beats me how you derive any enjoyment from that, or think its helpful or clever to do so. We have a significant number in our fan base who won't see a positive when it's in their face, they just enjoy moaning, all the fucking time.
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Post by DansViews on Dec 13, 2023 9:01:22 GMT
It was better.
I actually thought most of the players put in a shift, and we were unlucky that we have Bonham in goals.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 13, 2023 9:11:32 GMT
It was more negative than any other team selection for any other game of the season with perhaps the exception of the Leicester game. That was us playing Swansea at home folks believe it or not.
Where were the goals meant to come from, that shit dozy soft excuse for a CF????
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Post by retrostoke on Dec 13, 2023 9:13:06 GMT
If I was in the stands last night with a thought I might apply for the managers post with one of these teams my application to manage Stoke would be in the post this morning.
We were head and shoulders above Swansea.
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Post by DansViews on Dec 13, 2023 9:18:51 GMT
If I was in the stands last night with a thought I might apply for the managers post with one of these teams my application to manage Stoke would be in the post this morning. We were head and shoulders above Swansea. I agree - and I think we can see the individual quality a lot of our players have. Mmae for example - got some stick by some knobs behind me last night, but he was upfront on his own with little service. He showed some great glimpses of quality and good footwork. A good manager who can get them working together will get something out of this team
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 13, 2023 9:22:46 GMT
Newton's Alligator is working it's spell.
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Post by harlequin on Dec 13, 2023 9:26:36 GMT
I Was bored throughout.
But alot of decent posters say we did well so im starting to doubt my own memory.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 13, 2023 9:28:43 GMT
I Was bored throughout. But alot of decent posters say we did well so im starting to doubt my own memory. Don’t.
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Post by DansViews on Dec 13, 2023 9:30:30 GMT
I Was bored throughout. But alot of decent posters say we did well so im starting to doubt my own memory. I wouldn’t say we did well, from what I saw and see in the comments was that it was better. Nowhere near where we want to be obviously.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2023 9:33:20 GMT
Dominate a game🤔, we had 43% possession 🤣🤣. So what? Possession never won a single game. We dominated on chances and half-chances to score. That's what football is about. I couldn't care less about possession percentage. In fact, I'm more worried when we have more possession. We gave them their only goal. And, Gooch slipped them their only other one. The rest was one way, at least in the 2nd half. Wrong. Football is about scoring more goals than your opposition, not how many chances you create. I didn't see last nights game so cannot comment on it, but just correcting you
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Post by StokieDJC on Dec 13, 2023 9:34:17 GMT
I Was bored throughout. But alot of decent posters say we did well so im starting to doubt my own memory. Your memory is fine. Apart from the penalty and Maee poor effort, the game was pretty even. Two poor sides who couldn’t pass a ball, spent most the game giving it back to each other. A shocking endorsement of championship football and the fact people think we dominated and played well is absurd.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2023 9:35:34 GMT
It was better. I actually thought most of the players put in a shift, and we were unlucky that we have Bonham in goals. The fact that Jack Bonham is in out goal isn't down to luck, it's down to rank bad management mate.
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Post by DansViews on Dec 13, 2023 9:38:27 GMT
It was better. I actually thought most of the players put in a shift, and we were unlucky that we have Bonham in goals. The fact that Jack Bonham is in out goal isn't down to luck, it's down to rank bad management mate. Yeah I wasn’t meaning that us having to suffer him is down to luck, I meant that we as fans are unfortunate that he is our only real option. Hopefully this is corrected in January
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Post by idle on Dec 13, 2023 9:46:27 GMT
So what? Possession never won a single game. We dominated on chances and half-chances to score. That's what football is about. I couldn't care less about possession percentage. In fact, I'm more worried when we have more possession. We gave them their only goal. And, Gooch slipped them their only other one. The rest was one way, at least in the 2nd half. Wrong. Football is about scoring more goals than your opposition, not how many chances you create. I didn't see last nights game so cannot comment on it, but just correcting you True, but you definitly need chances to score. You don't need to have more possession than the opposition to score. I'd rather count chances (or even xG) than possession. We of all clubs should know this.
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Post by wilcopotter on Dec 13, 2023 10:08:00 GMT
Dominate a game🤔, we had 43% possession 🤣🤣. You're proving the point. They had 57% of the ball and were able to create nothing with it - because we kept our shape, defended well as a team and stopped them effectively for 99% of the time. We created far more, but i get it, you want to see the worst in it for some reason. Beats me how you derive any enjoyment from that, or think its helpful or clever to do so. We have a significant number in our fan base who won't see a positive when it's in their face, they just enjoy moaning, all the fucking time. It’s all about opinions, I thought it was crap, you thought there were positives, fair play.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 13, 2023 10:18:33 GMT
That was awful and yet some think it was better I guess that sums up our current status P Gallagher even said: "The Players were excellent!" If we were excellent,we would have scored more goals.
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Post by redstriper on Dec 13, 2023 10:43:37 GMT
I Was bored throughout. But alot of decent posters say we did well so im starting to doubt my own memory. Your memory is fine. Apart from the penalty and Maee poor effort, the game was pretty even. Two poor sides who couldn’t pass a ball, spent most the game giving it back to each other. A shocking endorsement of championship football and the fact people think we dominated and played well is absurd. Do you not understand the difference between "played well" and "played better" ? The majority of people aren't saying we played well, just that we were significantly better than at the weekend. Can you not accept that ?
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