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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Dec 11, 2023 11:46:57 GMT
Eat....sleep.....sack.....repeat
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Post by neddy on Dec 11, 2023 11:47:26 GMT
Not for me!
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 11, 2023 11:47:38 GMT
"proven in the championship" honestly gives me chills.
Means they've usually failed.
Corberan, Carrick, McKenna, Kompany etc etc etc none of those were proven.
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Post by questionable on Dec 11, 2023 11:48:12 GMT
Let’s be honest, we might well have done, but we should have contacted a number of people. We’d be the first ones moaning if it takes weeks because we only contacted one man and he turned us down. There will be numerous names linked and approached. Smith certainly wouldn’t be a top pick of most, but his track record isn’t awful. I said yesterday I could definitely see him being in the mix. Yes Stoke will have approached several candidate's already I’d say they’ve probably approached one, Hughes when approached was the only person in mind as was Jones
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Post by callas12 on Dec 11, 2023 11:49:40 GMT
Wouldn't be my first choice but I can see why if we have approached him. Did a great job at Brentford and Villa in the end. Leicester - were doomed whoever they had. Your joking. What has T Frank done then? Villa supporters do not like him very limited, Norwich can't stand him. Rewriting history. Villa fans don't dislike him, he guided them back to the Premier League. He just became abit stale but that happens. Dean Smith signed Tammy Abraham (loan), Tyrone Mings, Ollie Watkins & currently the World's best goalkeeper in Emi Martinez, not a shabby list of incomings & that's just off the top of my head. Martinez and Watkins would walk into any Premier League team right now. I'd be quite open to this..
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Post by cvillestokie on Dec 11, 2023 11:49:50 GMT
Played exciting attacking football at Brentford & when getting Villa promoted, tons of goals been dull as dishwater since, failed completely at Norwich & not much cop at Leicester strange career Like AN, one or two successes will see him getting chance after chance for a decade or so.
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Post by Eggybread on Dec 11, 2023 11:51:15 GMT
His win rate is utterly abysmal.What planet are our owners on if this is true?
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Post by flea79 on Dec 11, 2023 11:53:17 GMT
i dunno i think he would be steady
Unai has given him a lot of praise for the work he did at Villa that has allowed them too push on..
its still a bit fucking beige though isnt it!
we want a rockstar, wheres Ainsworth, that would piss off the penny in the pound neighbours
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Post by matelot1996 on Dec 11, 2023 11:53:48 GMT
This is exactly the “Type” I was expecting from Stoke. British, Average, Vanilla Personality. I am almost as underwhelmed as when Paul Lambert rocked up. Jesus Christ. If you do what you’ve always done, You”ll get what you”ve always gotten!
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Post by jokker on Dec 11, 2023 11:54:22 GMT
How long before fickle supporters ask for Neil to be reinstated to avoid Smith..after the recent messages saying they'd take back Hughes, Lambert, Jones and O'Neill..
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Post by matelot1996 on Dec 11, 2023 11:55:54 GMT
How long before fickle supporters ask for Neil to be reinstated to avoid Smith..after the recent messages saying they'd take back Hughes, Lambert, Jones and O'Neill.. If anyone has asked for Lambert, O’Niell or Jones back then I wouldn’t take that too seriously. Hughes is another matter.
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Post by wonderwall on Dec 11, 2023 11:55:56 GMT
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 11, 2023 11:56:00 GMT
We're getting our knickers in a knot over nothing. We may have contacted him. We might have (tongue in cheek) asked Man City for permission to talk to Pep. It is meaningless. Instead of stressing over some random bollocks on the internet lets wait and see.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Dec 11, 2023 11:56:28 GMT
All the evidence is that at a well run , smooth running football machine like Brentford, that is super organised and professional, from front to back, Smith can do a tidy job. Unsurprisingly he is not so clever at clubs with lots of issues that need fixing on and off the pitch. I think I would put stoke in the second category. Agreed. And this is why so many managers are failing here. They need the next one to do a much better job or all the fingers will start pointing at JC. He's getting more and more fingers pointed at him by the day. All these managers can't be this bad. They all had decent cv's. JC needs to get some better people around him to help direct the club and set a proper structure up.
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Post by FrankButcher on Dec 11, 2023 11:56:56 GMT
Am I right in thinking he was part of Brentford’s success before frank took the reigns? I know he wasn’t the reason for success but remember them being a very good footballing side. Saying that wouldn’t want him anywhere near our club.
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Post by wonderwall on Dec 11, 2023 11:58:03 GMT
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Dec 11, 2023 11:59:32 GMT
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Dec 11, 2023 12:01:37 GMT
Personally wouldn't mind this. Are there better options? Yes.
Are there worse options? Absolutely yes.
Of the so called "boring" names mentioned..his style of football is the best of them
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Post by stokiesteve on Dec 11, 2023 12:01:49 GMT
Your joking. What has T Frank done then? Villa supporters do not like him very limited, Norwich can't stand him. Rewriting history. Villa fans don't dislike him, he guided them back to the Premier League. He just became abit stale but that happens. Dean Smith signed Tammy Abraham (loan), Tyrone Mings, Ollie Watkins & currently the World's best goalkeeper in Emi Martinez, not a shabby list of incomings & that's just off the top of my head. Martinez and Watkins would walk into any Premier League team right now. I'd be quite open to this.. To be fair mate, I didn't know much about him and did the cardinal sin of judging him before I read up on him. I have to agree with you actually - he does have attributes when it comes to signing players and he has stirred up a few clubs into resurrection so I can see the thinking here
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Post by jokker on Dec 11, 2023 12:02:13 GMT
I imagine there will be a 146-page Dean Smith thread before the season's over...
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Post by shrewspotter on Dec 11, 2023 12:03:24 GMT
Am I right in thinking he was part of Brentford’s success before frank took the reigns? I know he wasn’t the reason for success but remember them being a very good footballing side. Saying that wouldn’t want him anywhere near our club. Not only were they very good, they recruited very well with players like Watkins, Toney, Mbeuno and Janssen and sold off the duds to teams who have the wool pulled over their eyes like Ryan Woods or Tariq Fosu (ok Fosu wasnt Smith) I think every manager is a bit of a gamble, He is no more of a gamble then a Scott Parker, John Eustace or Paul Heckingbottom in my opinion Just not very exciting but Id have Smith over Neil every day
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Post by StokieNath on Dec 11, 2023 12:03:48 GMT
That’ll be me done if this journeyman is appointed, it fucking stinks.
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Dec 11, 2023 12:04:52 GMT
One of the FI writers had a decent inside track on our summer dealings, didn’t he? Don’t think it was this guy though? That was FrazFletcher if it was him saying this i would've been worried He doesn't work for Footyinsider anymore. He's with TeamTalk now I think
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 11, 2023 12:05:34 GMT
Am I right in thinking he was part of Brentford’s success before frank took the reigns? I know he wasn’t the reason for success but remember them being a very good footballing side. Saying that wouldn’t want him anywhere near our club. Not only were they very good, they recruited very well with players like Watkins, Toney, Mbeuno and Janssen and sold off the duds to teams who have the wool pulled over their eyes like Ryan Woods or Tariq Fosu (ok Fosu wasnt Smith) I think every manager is a bit of a gamble, He is no more of a gamble then a Scott Parker, John Eustace or Paul Heckingbottom in my opinion Just not very exciting but Id have Smith over Neil every day Are we going to employ yet another manager on the basis of what he did over 5 years ago? Again - John Coates, who the fuck are you taking advice from?
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Post by callas12 on Dec 11, 2023 12:05:43 GMT
Villa fans don't dislike him, he guided them back to the Premier League. He just became abit stale but that happens. Dean Smith signed Tammy Abraham (loan), Tyrone Mings, Ollie Watkins & currently the World's best goalkeeper in Emi Martinez, not a shabby list of incomings & that's just off the top of my head. Martinez and Watkins would walk into any Premier League team right now. I'd be quite open to this.. To be fair mate, I didn't know much about him and did the cardinal sin of judging him before I read up on him. I have to agree with you actually - he does have attributes when it comes to signing players and he has stirred up a few clubs into resurrection so I can see the thinking here My bro is a Villa ST holder and he was the first name he mentioned to me yesterday and said he could definitely do a job at Stoke. He's still fondly remembered at Villa for what he achieved there, was just the right time to move on when they got rid.
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Post by scfcwebby on Dec 11, 2023 12:06:06 GMT
If this does happen then Coates needs to fuck off and we need to let him know that he needs to fuck off
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Dec 11, 2023 12:06:34 GMT
Fuck off
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Dec 11, 2023 12:12:00 GMT
Serious question, what has Potter done better than Dean Smith in his career?
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Post by callas12 on Dec 11, 2023 12:12:59 GMT
I recall TP's appointment from Plymouth was greeted with equal enthusiasm off the majority on here. That was unfounded doom & gloom from the masses wasn't it! As Stoke fans who do we really anticipate being able to attract to our club right now?! In football terms we're not all that an attractive proposition that some fans think we are right now.
Perhaps a Dean Smith figure as manager is what we need right now? Let's face it, whoever is appointed is likely to come with baggage of some description. Let's not kid ourselves we're going to grab a worldbeater!
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Post by shrewspotter on Dec 11, 2023 12:14:53 GMT
Not only were they very good, they recruited very well with players like Watkins, Toney, Mbeuno and Janssen and sold off the duds to teams who have the wool pulled over their eyes like Ryan Woods or Tariq Fosu (ok Fosu wasnt Smith) I think every manager is a bit of a gamble, He is no more of a gamble then a Scott Parker, John Eustace or Paul Heckingbottom in my opinion Just not very exciting but Id have Smith over Neil every day Are we going to employ yet another manager on the basis of what he did over 5 years ago? Again - John Coates, who the fuck are you taking advice from? To be fair, I thought Neil would work just because his recent record was good, it didnt, Jones was doing well at Luton, that didnt work, O'Neil was doing well with NI, that also didnt work, Rowett was doing well at Derby, again it didnt work I dont know mate, I genuinly think we should try and do what other clubs have done and go for someone like Ljinders but I am not sure that structure is right, perhaps they should be looking at the best coach and hire someone like Mike Phelan (someone else mentioned him) to look aftre the other bits and take the heat away Like many I really dont know the best way
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