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Post by gawa on Dec 8, 2023 23:01:23 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Dec 8, 2023 23:24:41 GMT
Nah, y'alright.
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Post by wannabee on Dec 9, 2023 0:25:20 GMT
Are you Fucking Serious? An "Interview" by a Racist Thug of a Genocidal Murdering, Drug Dealing, Gangster what the Fuck could you "enjoy" about it When Adair became the first person in Northern Ireland charged with directing terrorism in 1995, he admitted that he had been a UDA leader for three years up to 1994. During this time, Adair and his colleagues were involved in multiple random murders of Catholic civilians, mostly carried out by a special killing unit led by Stevie "Top Gun" McKeag.[17] At Adair's trial in 1995, the prosecuting lawyer said he was dedicated to his cause against those whom he "regarded as militant republicans – among whom he had lumped almost the entire Roman Catholic population".[18]
Royal Ulster Constabulary (RUC) detectives believe his unit killed up to 40 people in this period.[19] Adair once remarked to a Catholic journalist from the Republic of Ireland that normally Catholics traveled in the boot of his car.[20] According to a press report in 2003, Adair was handed details of republican suspects by the Intelligence Corps, and was even invited for dinner with them in the early 1990s.[21]
In his autobiography, he alleged he was frequently passed information on republican paramilitaries by sympathetic British Army members,
The part underlined is called Genocide. How can you possibly find this murderous thug "enjoyable" and rail against Israels treatment of Palestinians |
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Post by gawa on Dec 9, 2023 1:57:33 GMT
Are you Fucking Serious? An "Interview" by a Racist Thug of a Genocidal Murdering, Drug Dealing, Gangster what the Fuck could you "enjoy" about it When Adair became the first person in Northern Ireland charged with directing terrorism in 1995, he admitted that he had been a UDA leader for three years up to 1994. During this time, Adair and his colleagues were involved in multiple random murders of Catholic civilians, mostly carried out by a special killing unit led by Stevie "Top Gun" McKeag.[17] At Adair's trial in 1995, the prosecuting lawyer said he was dedicated to his cause against those whom he "regarded as militant republicans – among whom he had lumped almost the entire Roman Catholic population".[18]
Royal Ulster Constabulary (RUC) detectives believe his unit killed up to 40 people in this period.[19] Adair once remarked to a Catholic journalist from the Republic of Ireland that normally Catholics traveled in the boot of his car.[20] According to a press report in 2003, Adair was handed details of republican suspects by the Intelligence Corps, and was even invited for dinner with them in the early 1990s.[21]
In his autobiography, he alleged he was frequently passed information on republican paramilitaries by sympathetic British Army members,
The part underlined is called Genocide. How can you possibly find this murderous thug "enjoyable" and rail against Israels treatment of Palestinians Very serious. Little Boy Blue was an enjoyable TV show - that doesn't mean I support the murder of thr young Evertonian killed. Similarly I enjoy shows on Netflix where some of the world's most deadly prisoners are interviewed. That doesn't mean I support their crimes. I like alot of stuff Mandela did and enjoy his interviews, it doesn't mean I support the crimes he committed. It was an enjoyable and interesting interview because its not often you get interviews like this with ex paramilitaries and its a history very close to me. As for catholics, again, enjoying an interview doesn't mean I support what he did? He speaks well of some catholics though, surprisingly. Complimented the IRA and their strength and intelligence, has alot of respect for Bobby sands and the hunger strikers saying he couldn't have stared death in the eye and starved himself for his cause like they did. Speaks about his parents and siblings and how none of them were ever involved and that his dad had alot of Catholic friends. Tells a funny story about how he got shot in the head at a UB40 concert and managed to escape the venue jump in front of a cab and get driven to a hospital by what was a catholic taxi driver. Quite ironic. Tommy makes a few comments which are a bit ironic at times and made me laugh. One where he was sugesting all IRA arms came from Islamic countries only for Adair to say it was mostly America. Just because you don't agree with a person's views or actions, it doesn't mean it can't be an enjoyable watch. I'm no Tommy Robinson or Jonny Adair fan, but I liked the interview and would recommend it. |
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Post by NassauDave on Dec 9, 2023 4:07:52 GMT
Are you Fucking Serious? An "Interview" by a Racist Thug of a Genocidal Murdering, Drug Dealing, Gangster what the Fuck could you "enjoy" about it When Adair became the first person in Northern Ireland charged with directing terrorism in 1995, he admitted that he had been a UDA leader for three years up to 1994. During this time, Adair and his colleagues were involved in multiple random murders of Catholic civilians, mostly carried out by a special killing unit led by Stevie "Top Gun" McKeag.[17] At Adair's trial in 1995, the prosecuting lawyer said he was dedicated to his cause against those whom he "regarded as militant republicans – among whom he had lumped almost the entire Roman Catholic population".[18]
Royal Ulster Constabulary (RUC) detectives believe his unit killed up to 40 people in this period.[19] Adair once remarked to a Catholic journalist from the Republic of Ireland that normally Catholics traveled in the boot of his car.[20] According to a press report in 2003, Adair was handed details of republican suspects by the Intelligence Corps, and was even invited for dinner with them in the early 1990s.[21]
In his autobiography, he alleged he was frequently passed information on republican paramilitaries by sympathetic British Army members,
The part underlined is called Genocide. How can you possibly find this murderous thug "enjoyable" and rail against Israels treatment of Palestinians Very serious. Little Boy Blue was an enjoyable TV show - that doesn't mean I support the murder of thr young Evertonian killed. Similarly I enjoy shows on Netflix where some of the world's most deadly prisoners are interviewed. That doesn't mean I support their crimes. I like alot of stuff Mandela did and enjoy his interviews, it doesn't mean I support the crimes he committed. It was an enjoyable and interesting interview because its not often you get interviews like this with ex paramilitaries and its a history very close to me. As for catholics, again, enjoying an interview doesn't mean I support what he did? He speaks well of some catholics though, surprisingly. Complimented the IRA and their strength and intelligence, has alot of respect for Bobby sands and the hunger strikers saying he couldn't have stared death in the eye and starved himself for his cause like they did. Speaks about his parents and siblings and how none of them were ever involved and that his dad had alot of Catholic friends. Tells a funny story about how he got shot in the head at a UB40 concert and managed to escape the venue jump in front of a cab and get driven to a hospital by what was a catholic taxi driver. Quite ironic. Tommy makes a few comments which are a bit ironic at times and made me laugh. One where he was sugesting all IRA arms came from Islamic countries only for Adair to say it was mostly America. Just because you don't agree with a person's views or actions, it doesn't mean it can't be an enjoyable watch. I'm no Tommy Robinson or Jonny Adair fan, but I liked the interview and would recommend it. That's a fair and reasonable response. |
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Post by satoshi on Dec 9, 2023 7:04:41 GMT
Are you Fucking Serious? An "Interview" by a Racist Thug of a Genocidal Murdering, Drug Dealing, Gangster what the Fuck could you "enjoy" about it When Adair became the first person in Northern Ireland charged with directing terrorism in 1995, he admitted that he had been a UDA leader for three years up to 1994. During this time, Adair and his colleagues were involved in multiple random murders of Catholic civilians, mostly carried out by a special killing unit led by Stevie "Top Gun" McKeag.[17] At Adair's trial in 1995, the prosecuting lawyer said he was dedicated to his cause against those whom he "regarded as militant republicans – among whom he had lumped almost the entire Roman Catholic population".[18]
Royal Ulster Constabulary (RUC) detectives believe his unit killed up to 40 people in this period.[19] Adair once remarked to a Catholic journalist from the Republic of Ireland that normally Catholics traveled in the boot of his car.[20] According to a press report in 2003, Adair was handed details of republican suspects by the Intelligence Corps, and was even invited for dinner with them in the early 1990s.[21]
In his autobiography, he alleged he was frequently passed information on republican paramilitaries by sympathetic British Army members,
The part underlined is called Genocide. How can you possibly find this murderous thug "enjoyable" and rail against Israels treatment of Palestinians Are you suggesting that Tommy Robinson is a knuckle dragging Tommy Robinson type? |
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Post by satoshi on Dec 9, 2023 7:06:12 GMT
Very serious. Little Boy Blue was an enjoyable TV show - that doesn't mean I support the murder of thr young Evertonian killed. Similarly I enjoy shows on Netflix where some of the world's most deadly prisoners are interviewed. That doesn't mean I support their crimes. I like alot of stuff Mandela did and enjoy his interviews, it doesn't mean I support the crimes he committed. It was an enjoyable and interesting interview because its not often you get interviews like this with ex paramilitaries and its a history very close to me. As for catholics, again, enjoying an interview doesn't mean I support what he did? He speaks well of some catholics though, surprisingly. Complimented the IRA and their strength and intelligence, has alot of respect for Bobby sands and the hunger strikers saying he couldn't have stared death in the eye and starved himself for his cause like they did. Speaks about his parents and siblings and how none of them were ever involved and that his dad had alot of Catholic friends. Tells a funny story about how he got shot in the head at a UB40 concert and managed to escape the venue jump in front of a cab and get driven to a hospital by what was a catholic taxi driver. Quite ironic. Tommy makes a few comments which are a bit ironic at times and made me laugh. One where he was sugesting all IRA arms came from Islamic countries only for Adair to say it was mostly America. Just because you don't agree with a person's views or actions, it doesn't mean it can't be an enjoyable watch. I'm no Tommy Robinson or Jonny Adair fan, but I liked the interview and would recommend it. That's a fair and reasonable response. Wannabe is still hanging upside down in his wardrobe with an orange in his mouth in disgust |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 9, 2023 7:20:12 GMT
Are you Fucking Serious? An "Interview" by a Racist Thug of a Genocidal Murdering, Drug Dealing, Gangster what the Fuck could you "enjoy" about it When Adair became the first person in Northern Ireland charged with directing terrorism in 1995, he admitted that he had been a UDA leader for three years up to 1994. During this time, Adair and his colleagues were involved in multiple random murders of Catholic civilians, mostly carried out by a special killing unit led by Stevie "Top Gun" McKeag.[17] At Adair's trial in 1995, the prosecuting lawyer said he was dedicated to his cause against those whom he "regarded as militant republicans – among whom he had lumped almost the entire Roman Catholic population".[18]
Royal Ulster Constabulary (RUC) detectives believe his unit killed up to 40 people in this period.[19] Adair once remarked to a Catholic journalist from the Republic of Ireland that normally Catholics traveled in the boot of his car.[20] According to a press report in 2003, Adair was handed details of republican suspects by the Intelligence Corps, and was even invited for dinner with them in the early 1990s.[21]
In his autobiography, he alleged he was frequently passed information on republican paramilitaries by sympathetic British Army members,
The part underlined is called Genocide. How can you possibly find this murderous thug "enjoyable" and rail against Israels treatment of Palestinians Very serious. Little Boy Blue was an enjoyable TV show - that doesn't mean I support the murder of thr young Evertonian killed. Similarly I enjoy shows on Netflix where some of the world's most deadly prisoners are interviewed. That doesn't mean I support their crimes. I like alot of stuff Mandela did and enjoy his interviews, it doesn't mean I support the crimes he committed. It was an enjoyable and interesting interview because its not often you get interviews like this with ex paramilitaries and its a history very close to me. As for catholics, again, enjoying an interview doesn't mean I support what he did? He speaks well of some catholics though, surprisingly. Complimented the IRA and their strength and intelligence, has alot of respect for Bobby sands and the hunger strikers saying he couldn't have stared death in the eye and starved himself for his cause like they did. Speaks about his parents and siblings and how none of them were ever involved and that his dad had alot of Catholic friends. Tells a funny story about how he got shot in the head at a UB40 concert and managed to escape the venue jump in front of a cab and get driven to a hospital by what was a catholic taxi driver. Quite ironic. Tommy makes a few comments which are a bit ironic at times and made me laugh. One where he was sugesting all IRA arms came from Islamic countries only for Adair to say it was mostly America. Just because you don't agree with a person's views or actions, it doesn't mean it can't be an enjoyable watch. I'm no Tommy Robinson or Jonny Adair fan, but I liked the interview and would recommend it. Well said. I know exactly what you meant. It’s important that we learn from the bad stuff to change things and make them better. By watching stuff like this it helps us understand these peoples thinking and why they are like they are. It doesn’t mean we agree with or like them. There’s some cracking interviews on YouTube with James English, Dodge Woodhall and Shaun Attwood where they interview some pretty heavy criminals and other controversial characters that I have zero in common with but are fascinating well worth a watch as it broadens the mind. Certainly doesn’t make me like them but explains why they are like they are. If we don’t watch stuff like this (I haven’t) we’re not broadening our knowledge. Some of the best documentaries are about some of the worst events and people. We need to watch things that challenge our thinking and sometimes leaves us feeling sad or confused or wanting to change things for the better. I’m not a fan of Hopkin but this is a cracking interview and far better than the stuff Piers Morgan does. Gives you a real insight into her life story. another really good watch |
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Post by knype on Dec 9, 2023 9:11:37 GMT
Are you Fucking Serious? An "Interview" by a Racist Thug of a Genocidal Murdering, Drug Dealing, Gangster what the Fuck could you "enjoy" about it When Adair became the first person in Northern Ireland charged with directing terrorism in 1995, he admitted that he had been a UDA leader for three years up to 1994. During this time, Adair and his colleagues were involved in multiple random murders of Catholic civilians, mostly carried out by a special killing unit led by Stevie "Top Gun" McKeag.[17] At Adair's trial in 1995, the prosecuting lawyer said he was dedicated to his cause against those whom he "regarded as militant republicans – among whom he had lumped almost the entire Roman Catholic population".[18]
Royal Ulster Constabulary (RUC) detectives believe his unit killed up to 40 people in this period.[19] Adair once remarked to a Catholic journalist from the Republic of Ireland that normally Catholics traveled in the boot of his car.[20] According to a press report in 2003, Adair was handed details of republican suspects by the Intelligence Corps, and was even invited for dinner with them in the early 1990s.[21]
In his autobiography, he alleged he was frequently passed information on republican paramilitaries by sympathetic British Army members,
The part underlined is called Genocide. How can you possibly find this murderous thug "enjoyable" and rail against Israels treatment of Palestinians Lefty gonna left, expand your mind and listen to others? |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Dec 9, 2023 9:32:14 GMT
Are you Fucking Serious? An "Interview" by a Racist Thug of a Genocidal Murdering, Drug Dealing, Gangster what the Fuck could you "enjoy" about it When Adair became the first person in Northern Ireland charged with directing terrorism in 1995, he admitted that he had been a UDA leader for three years up to 1994. During this time, Adair and his colleagues were involved in multiple random murders of Catholic civilians, mostly carried out by a special killing unit led by Stevie "Top Gun" McKeag.[17] At Adair's trial in 1995, the prosecuting lawyer said he was dedicated to his cause against those whom he "regarded as militant republicans – among whom he had lumped almost the entire Roman Catholic population".[18]
Royal Ulster Constabulary (RUC) detectives believe his unit killed up to 40 people in this period.[19] Adair once remarked to a Catholic journalist from the Republic of Ireland that normally Catholics traveled in the boot of his car.[20] According to a press report in 2003, Adair was handed details of republican suspects by the Intelligence Corps, and was even invited for dinner with them in the early 1990s.[21]
In his autobiography, he alleged he was frequently passed information on republican paramilitaries by sympathetic British Army members,
The part underlined is called Genocide. How can you possibly find this murderous thug "enjoyable" and rail against Israels treatment of Palestinians Lefty gonna left, expand your mind and listen to others? 🤣  |
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Post by wannabee on Dec 9, 2023 9:42:34 GMT
To no-one in particular
If people enjoy listening to a former leader of a Proscibed Terrorist Organisation responsible for the indiscriminate murder of about 500 people mostly innocent civilians randomly selected but including members of the British Security Forces, fill your boots
The organisations debris is according to an MI5/police intelligence assessment in 2021 UDA"has access to arms and is heavily involved in drugs supply, community coercion, intimidation
A recent attempted murder of Detective Chief Inspector John Calwell (the lead detective of anti Drug and Criminal Gangs in NI) is heavily linked to the UDA supplying Guns to like minded IRA Drug Dealing Criminals.
But hey-ho
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Post by sticky on Dec 9, 2023 10:07:20 GMT
Are you Fucking Serious? An "Interview" by a Racist Thug of a Genocidal Murdering, Drug Dealing, Gangster what the Fuck could you "enjoy" about it When Adair became the first person in Northern Ireland charged with directing terrorism in 1995, he admitted that he had been a UDA leader for three years up to 1994. During this time, Adair and his colleagues were involved in multiple random murders of Catholic civilians, mostly carried out by a special killing unit led by Stevie "Top Gun" McKeag.[17] At Adair's trial in 1995, the prosecuting lawyer said he was dedicated to his cause against those whom he "regarded as militant republicans – among whom he had lumped almost the entire Roman Catholic population".[18]
Royal Ulster Constabulary (RUC) detectives believe his unit killed up to 40 people in this period.[19] Adair once remarked to a Catholic journalist from the Republic of Ireland that normally Catholics traveled in the boot of his car.[20] According to a press report in 2003, Adair was handed details of republican suspects by the Intelligence Corps, and was even invited for dinner with them in the early 1990s.[21]
In his autobiography, he alleged he was frequently passed information on republican paramilitaries by sympathetic British Army members,
The part underlined is called Genocide. How can you possibly find this murderous thug "enjoyable" and rail against Israels treatment of Palestinians Very serious. Little Boy Blue was an enjoyable TV show - that doesn't mean I support the murder of thr young Evertonian killed. Similarly I enjoy shows on Netflix where some of the world's most deadly prisoners are interviewed. That doesn't mean I support their crimes. I like alot of stuff Mandela did and enjoy his interviews, it doesn't mean I support the crimes he committed. It was an enjoyable and interesting interview because its not often you get interviews like this with ex paramilitaries and its a history very close to me. As for catholics, again, enjoying an interview doesn't mean I support what he did? He speaks well of some catholics though, surprisingly. Complimented the IRA and their strength and intelligence, has alot of respect for Bobby sands and the hunger strikers saying he couldn't have stared death in the eye and starved himself for his cause like they did. Speaks about his parents and siblings and how none of them were ever involved and that his dad had alot of Catholic friends. Tells a funny story about how he got shot in the head at a UB40 concert and managed to escape the venue jump in front of a cab and get driven to a hospital by what was a catholic taxi driver. Quite ironic. Tommy makes a few comments which are a bit ironic at times and made me laugh. One where he was sugesting all IRA arms came from Islamic countries only for Adair to say it was mostly America. Just because you don't agree with a person's views or actions, it doesn't mean it can't be an enjoyable watch. I'm no Tommy Robinson or Jonny Adair fan, but I liked the interview and would recommend it. Great reply! I really enjoy watching interviews with serial killers and psychopaths, I find them fascinating, doesn’t mean I think what they did was right. Il have a watch of that👍🏻 |
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Post by Gods on Dec 9, 2023 10:40:43 GMT
'Johnny Adair', I don't think I have heard that name for 30 years.
For those of us of a certain age it's one of those names that came up from time to time on the news at the height of the troubles when we were young.
I would have gone to my grave without having him another single thought and 'hey presto' there he is in a thread on the Oatcake!
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Post by foster on Dec 9, 2023 10:53:07 GMT
To no-one in particular If people enjoy listening to a former leader of a Proscibed Terrorist Organisation responsible for the indiscriminate murder of about 500 people mostly innocent civilians randomly selected but including members of the British Security Forces, fill your boots The organisations debris is according to an MI5/police intelligence assessment in 2021 UDA"has access to arms and is heavily involved in drugs supply, community coercion, intimidation A recent attempted murder of Detective Chief Inspector John Calwell (the lead detective of anti Drug and Criminal Gangs in NI) is heavily linked to the UDA supplying Guns to like minded IRA Drug Dealing Criminals. But hey-ho The irony of you,an apparent bastion of free speech, trying to silence people on the oatcake  |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 9, 2023 11:03:37 GMT
To no-one in particular If people enjoy listening to a former leader of a Proscibed Terrorist Organisation responsible for the indiscriminate murder of about 500 people mostly innocent civilians randomly selected but including members of the British Security Forces, fill your boots The organisations debris is according to an MI5/police intelligence assessment in 2021 UDA"has access to arms and is heavily involved in drugs supply, community coercion, intimidation A recent attempted murder of Detective Chief Inspector John Calwell (the lead detective of anti Drug and Criminal Gangs in NI) is heavily linked to the UDA supplying Guns to like minded IRA Drug Dealing Criminals. But hey-ho I don’t think anyone’s arguing about what he or Robinson are or about or there characters and I don’t think at any point Gawa’s said he’s a great guy, he’s sinply said it’s an interesting watch. Sometimes you have to listen to others views that you don’t agree with to understand where their views come from in the first place or how they’ve become as twisted they are. There are times when after listening to them people’s negative views of the likes of Adair are strengthened even more. In the end isn’t this how we learn and put things right and make sure others don’t end up going down the same route. I agree with your dislike of the 2 mentioned as Im sure most do but I think you’ve been a bit harsh with your words directed at Gawa who’s one of the most fair minded posters on here. |
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Post by swampmongrel on Dec 9, 2023 11:23:25 GMT
Perhaps before anybody else watches , listens to, or reads anything we should ask for pre-approval on the Oatcake first.
Just in case we might get radicalised.
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Post by wannabee on Dec 9, 2023 11:41:12 GMT
To no-one in particular If people enjoy listening to a former leader of a Proscibed Terrorist Organisation responsible for the indiscriminate murder of about 500 people mostly innocent civilians randomly selected but including members of the British Security Forces, fill your boots The organisations debris is according to an MI5/police intelligence assessment in 2021 UDA"has access to arms and is heavily involved in drugs supply, community coercion, intimidation A recent attempted murder of Detective Chief Inspector John Calwell (the lead detective of anti Drug and Criminal Gangs in NI) is heavily linked to the UDA supplying Guns to like minded IRA Drug Dealing Criminals. But hey-ho The irony of you,an apparent bastion of free speech, trying to silence people on the oatcake My wife does the ironing I have in no way tried to silence anyone, I couldn't even if I wanted t, which i don't. . As Cobham often says there are always two sides and I gave mine. I do find it incongruous that universally on this MB Hamas is condemned as a Terrorist Organisation and certain actions of Israel are condemned as Genocide In contrast listening to the former leader of a Home Grown Terrorist Organisation which murdered hundreds of innocent civilians and preached Genocide being interviewed by a neanderthal is enjoyable I wonder if Tommy does a follow up piece and interviews Johnny Adair's nemesis Gerry Adams will it be equally enjoyable |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Dec 9, 2023 11:46:27 GMT
To no-one in particular If people enjoy listening to a former leader of a Proscibed Terrorist Organisation responsible for the indiscriminate murder of about 500 people mostly innocent civilians randomly selected but including members of the British Security Forces, fill your boots The organisations debris is according to an MI5/police intelligence assessment in 2021 UDA"has access to arms and is heavily involved in drugs supply, community coercion, intimidation A recent attempted murder of Detective Chief Inspector John Calwell (the lead detective of anti Drug and Criminal Gangs in NI) is heavily linked to the UDA supplying Guns to like minded IRA Drug Dealing Criminals. But hey-ho I don’t think anyone’s arguing about what he or Robinson are or about or there characters and I don’t think at any point Gawa’s said he’s a great guy, he’s sinply said it’s an interesting watch. Sometimes you have to listen to others views that you don’t agree with to understand where their views come from in the first place or how they’ve become as twisted they are. There are times when after listening to them people’s negative views of the likes of Adair are strengthened even more. In the end isn’t this how we learn and put things right and make sure others don’t end up going down the same route. I agree with your dislike of the 2 mentioned as Im sure most do but I think you’ve been a bit harsh with your words directed at Gawa who’s one of the most fair minded posters on here. Does wanting to understand why someone like Adair was so involved in killing so many innocent people also apply to wanting to understand why, say, an Islamist migrant in France might feel justified in killing innocent people? I'd hope so. It'd be the height of hypocrisy otherwise. Condemnation and understanding are not mutually exclusive, of course, as I said previously, although that approach routinely slides off kilter on here! |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 9, 2023 12:16:27 GMT
I don’t think anyone’s arguing about what he or Robinson are or about or there characters and I don’t think at any point Gawa’s said he’s a great guy, he’s sinply said it’s an interesting watch. Sometimes you have to listen to others views that you don’t agree with to understand where their views come from in the first place or how they’ve become as twisted they are. There are times when after listening to them people’s negative views of the likes of Adair are strengthened even more. In the end isn’t this how we learn and put things right and make sure others don’t end up going down the same route. I agree with your dislike of the 2 mentioned as Im sure most do but I think you’ve been a bit harsh with your words directed at Gawa who’s one of the most fair minded posters on here. Does wanting to understand why someone like Adair was so involved in killing so many innocent people also apply to wanting to understand why, say, an Islamist migrant in France might feel justified in killing innocent people? I'd hope so. It'd be the height of hypocrisy otherwise. Condemnation and understanding are not mutually exclusive, of course, as I said previously, although that approach routinely slides off kilter on here! In this case I haven’t listened to Robinsons interview as it’s not my bag and I wasn’t even aware of it but I’m always interested in what people say even if I don’t agree with them and would rather hear there side in an interview format than in the form of protest where people are just shouting there mouth off. If you can send me a link to the Islamist migrant I’d love to listen to it as from what you’re saying it could be educational. If I’m honest I’m more into the crime podcasts I sent links to as it’s fascinating listening to people who’s actions I don’t agree with as often there stories are a good watch and just because you don’t like or agree with them it doesn’t mean you can’t find them interesting. I think you’ll find that most people’s actions are dictated by experience and to change things for the better you have to listen to both sides. You and your chum make out you’re always in the right and that no one else is entitled to an alternative opinion and if they are they’re either a bigot, thick or both. That’s not a great attitude to have in life. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Dec 9, 2023 12:35:07 GMT
Does wanting to understand why someone like Adair was so involved in killing so many innocent people also apply to wanting to understand why, say, an Islamist migrant in France might feel justified in killing innocent people? I'd hope so. It'd be the height of hypocrisy otherwise. Condemnation and understanding are not mutually exclusive, of course, as I said previously, although that approach routinely slides off kilter on here! In this case I haven’t listened to Robinsons interview as it’s not my bag and I wasn’t even aware of it but I’m always interested in what people say even if I don’t agree with them and would rather hear there side in an interview format than in the form of protest where people are just shouting there mouth off. If you can send me a link to the Islamist migrant I’d love to listen to it as from what you’re saying it could be educational. If I’m honest I’m more into the crime podcasts I sent links to as it’s fascinating listening to people who’s actions I don’t agree with as often there stories are a good watch and just because you don’t like or agree with them it doesn’t mean you can’t find them interesting. I think you’ll find that most people’s actions are dictated by experience and to change things for the better you have to listen to both sides. You and your chum make out you’re always in the right and that no one else is entitled to an alternative opinion and if they are they’re either a bigot, thick or both. That’s not a great attitude to have in life. It's great to hear that you're starting to read, listen and watch stuff that will expand your knowledge of current affairs, recent history and politics. It's a sad reflection of the state of modern life (albeit on 'just' a football forum) when you read on here some folk's 'celebration' and 'pride' of their wilful ignorance of matters, their contempt for people who choose to try to be informed and then their subsequent, and not very surprising, irritation and upset when said people challenge them. That's not a great attitude to life either. It's good that you're no longer relying on gut instinct and personal experiences of friends to form opinions about matters and are now more prepared to explore issues more widely. Can only be a positive. I think your last paragraph is incorrect. No-one is saying others can't have opinions nor that they're always right. That feeling of being bigoted or thick is probably a manifestation of not liking having ill-informed views challenged. You see it fairly regularly on here..."I'm being shut down by the lefty, wokies" etc. Not the case. They're just disagreeing, often with a more coherent argument because it's better informed. |
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Post by wannabee on Dec 9, 2023 12:47:32 GMT
Does wanting to understand why someone like Adair was so involved in killing so many innocent people also apply to wanting to understand why, say, an Islamist migrant in France might feel justified in killing innocent people? I'd hope so. It'd be the height of hypocrisy otherwise. Condemnation and understanding are not mutually exclusive, of course, as I said previously, although that approach routinely slides off kilter on here! In this case I haven’t listened to Robinsons interview as it’s not my bag and I wasn’t even aware of it but I’m always interested in what people say even if I don’t agree with them and would rather hear there side in an interview format than in the form of protest where people are just shouting there mouth off. If you can send me a link to the Islamist migrant I’d love to listen to it as from what you’re saying it could be educational. If I’m honest I’m more into the crime podcasts I sent links to as it’s fascinating listening to people who’s actions I don’t agree with as often there stories are a good watch and just because you don’t like or agree with them it doesn’t mean you can’t find them interesting. I think you’ll find that most people’s actions are dictated by experience and to change things for the better you have to listen to both sides. You and your chum make out you’re always in the right and that no one else is entitled to an alternative opinion and if they are they’re either a bigot, thick or both. That’s not a great attitude to have in life. Maybe they could set up a weekly YouTube feed from Wakefield Prison a.k.a. The Monster Mansion where Child and Police Killers give their insightful thoughts. I can't think of a better interviewer than Tommy I'm sure it would be very enjoyable |
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Post by foster on Dec 9, 2023 13:00:58 GMT
In this case I haven’t listened to Robinsons interview as it’s not my bag and I wasn’t even aware of it but I’m always interested in what people say even if I don’t agree with them and would rather hear there side in an interview format than in the form of protest where people are just shouting there mouth off. If you can send me a link to the Islamist migrant I’d love to listen to it as from what you’re saying it could be educational. If I’m honest I’m more into the crime podcasts I sent links to as it’s fascinating listening to people who’s actions I don’t agree with as often there stories are a good watch and just because you don’t like or agree with them it doesn’t mean you can’t find them interesting. I think you’ll find that most people’s actions are dictated by experience and to change things for the better you have to listen to both sides. You and your chum make out you’re always in the right and that no one else is entitled to an alternative opinion and if they are they’re either a bigot, thick or both. That’s not a great attitude to have in life. Maybe they could set up a weekly YouTube feed from Wakefield Prison a.k.a. The Monster Mansion where Child and Police Killers give their insightful thoughts. I can't think of a better interviewer than Tommy I'm sure it would be very enjoyable You two are so resentful and jealous of Cobs popularity on here. Its hilarious. |
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Post by Eggybread on Dec 9, 2023 13:14:37 GMT
Why anyone would want to listen to racists promote and spill their bile Ill never know they are scum of the earth and need exterminating. We thought we had rid the planet of Nazis after WW2 but they are obviously still living amongst us. And Stoke has more than its fair share of them.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 9, 2023 13:14:59 GMT
Maybe they could set up a weekly YouTube feed from Wakefield Prison a.k.a. The Monster Mansion where Child and Police Killers give their insightful thoughts. I can't think of a better interviewer than Tommy I'm sure it would be very enjoyable You two are so resentful and jealous of Cobs popularity on here. Its hilarious. I must be doing something right as I do appear to be the main target in the old cross hair. I’m surprised I’m still 🚶♂️ and not wearing a concrete overcoat somewhere in the Thames by now. I need to brush up on my grammar though as I’m constantly misquoted by the lads. They’ll be taking Miss Marple and Midsummer murders off next because all those watching including Doris and Fred from Leigh on Sea will be turning into deranged murderers. |
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Post by wannabee on Dec 9, 2023 13:23:59 GMT
Maybe they could set up a weekly YouTube feed from Wakefield Prison a.k.a. The Monster Mansion where Child and Police Killers give their insightful thoughts. I can't think of a better interviewer than Tommy I'm sure it would be very enjoyable You two are so resentful and jealous of Cobs popularity on here. Its hilarious. What is different between interviewing Johnny "Mad Dog" Adair sentenced to 16 Years for Directing Terrorism to wit murdering Children and Security Personnel and the Pond Life in the Monster Mansion? |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Dec 9, 2023 13:26:21 GMT
Maybe they could set up a weekly YouTube feed from Wakefield Prison a.k.a. The Monster Mansion where Child and Police Killers give their insightful thoughts. I can't think of a better interviewer than Tommy I'm sure it would be very enjoyable You two are so resentful and jealous of Cobs popularity on here. Its hilarious. I think it's more a case of trying to understand the odd posting behaviour that some people follow. You could sum it up as: 1. Declare oneself to have little or no interest or awareness of politics or current affairs. 2. Spend a lot of time posting on politics and current affairs threads. 3. Get upset when others challenge their views. 4. Vow to stay away from politics and current affairs threads because the people on there are so awful. 5. Seek validation from like-minded posters. 6. Go back to 1 and repeat. It's like picking a scab! I don't know why people do it if it bothers them so much 😄 |
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Post by foster on Dec 9, 2023 13:30:31 GMT
You two are so resentful and jealous of Cobs popularity on here. Its hilarious. What is different between interviewing Johnny "Mad Dog" Adair sentenced to 16 Years for Directing Terrorism to wit murdering Children and Security Personnel and the Pond Life in the Monster Mansion? No idea. All I know is that it's comedy gold seeing you two fail miserably at putting Cobs down when it's clear that you're just jealous of the attention he gets. 😀 Maybe you both need to try being more normal. Perhaps a news years resolution. |
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Post by foster on Dec 9, 2023 13:32:22 GMT
You two are so resentful and jealous of Cobs popularity on here. Its hilarious. I think it's more a case of trying to understand the odd posting behaviour that some people follow. You could sum it up as: 1. Declare oneself to have little or no interest or awareness of politics or current affairs. 2. Spend a lot of time posting on politics and current affairs threads. 3. Get upset when others challenge their views. 4. Vow to stay away from politics and current affairs threads because the people on there are so awful. 5. Seek validation from like-minded posters. 6. Go back to 1 and repeat. It's like picking a scab! I don't know why people do it if it bothers them so much 😄 Posting behaviour, as in constantly replying to one particular poster who you're jealous of? |
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Post by mrnovember on Dec 9, 2023 13:49:48 GMT
Why anyone would want to listen to racists promote and spill their bile Ill never know they are scum of the earth and need exterminating. We thought we had rid the planet of Nazis after WW2 but they are obviously still living amongst us. And Stoke has more than its fair share of them. Does it? I'm not so sure. I've lived in Stoke most of my life on and off, and I don't think I've met a single member of The National Socialist German Workers Party. |
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Post by wannabee on Dec 9, 2023 13:50:43 GMT
You two are so resentful and jealous of Cobs popularity on here. Its hilarious. I must be doing something right as I do appear to be the main target in the old cross hair. I’m surprised I’m still 🚶♂️ and not wearing a concrete overcoat somewhere in the Thames by now. I need to brush up on my grammar though as I’m constantly misquoted by the lads. They’ll be taking Miss Marple and Midsummer murders off next because all those watching including Doris and Fred from Leigh on Sea will be turning into deranged murderers. Don't be such a Drama Queen. I don't know you or are unlikely to. If you post something I disagree with I'll say so, if you post something I'm either neutral or disinterested in I'll make no comment, if you post something I agree with I'll "like" it, which I have done on many occasions Plenty of posters disagree with me, I don't take it personally. If I feel the criticism... of my viewpoint.... is unfair, I argue my case |
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