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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Nov 22, 2023 23:53:57 GMT
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Post by Kenilworth_Stokies on Nov 23, 2023 10:01:56 GMT
Yeah, just came here to point this article out too. Nice to see one of ours being flagged to the world as an underappreciated pioneer.
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Post by nott1 on Nov 23, 2023 10:42:19 GMT
Even before MY time (just).
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Nov 23, 2023 12:42:27 GMT
Even before MY time (just). Yes, just missed him myself by a couple of years. A quite remarkable gentleman and pioneer in many ways. |
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Post by Dutchpeter on Nov 23, 2023 12:49:18 GMT
I grew up on Stories about the Stoke City players of the 1930s from my grandparents. Frank Soo was prominent amongst those memories, so he still lived on in the folklore of that generation. My Nan worked in the CO-OP laundry along Campbell Road, and Stoke players would work there (summer time?) to top up their income, one of them being Frank Soo. My nan only ever had good words to say about him as a man and a footballer.
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Post by drfootball on Nov 23, 2023 13:25:57 GMT
I too was brought up with my grandad telling stories of Frankie Soo and that great pre war side that included Sir Stan, Freddie Steele, Alec Ormston etc.
It sounds like he was a truly under appreciated great !
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 23, 2023 15:29:04 GMT
In my case it was my father telling me about the great Stoke players of the 30s.
He took me to my first Stoke game in the 50s.
Oddly though he was not a huge fan of Matthews. It wasn't that he didn't think he was a brilliant player, it was more that he didn't like him as a person. He thought he was very self centred and only thought about himself and his own career. But my father was very "old school" and thought people should be subservient to their "betters". Thankfully those days have gone.
He did use to drewel about how good Soo and Steele were.
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Frank Soo
Nov 23, 2023 18:51:01 GMT
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Post by Dutchpeter on Nov 23, 2023 18:51:01 GMT
In my case it was my father telling me about the great Stoke players of the 30s. He took me to my first Stoke game in the 50s. Oddly though he was not a huge fan of Matthews. It wasn't that he didn't think he was a brilliant player, it was more that he didn't like him as a person. He thought he was very self centred and only thought about himself and his own career. But my father was very "old school" and thought people should be subservient to their "betters". Thankfully those days have gone. He did use to drewel about how good Soo and Steele were. That’s exactly what my Nan said about Stan. |
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Post by BristolMick on Nov 24, 2023 0:43:41 GMT
It’s an interesting commentary on the times. In particular the bit about Chinese immigrants being accused of stealing the jobs of the locals if they worked and being bone idle if they didn’t. I think we’ve heard that more recently too, especially since 2016. The more things change the more they stay the same.
BM
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 24, 2023 9:45:16 GMT
It’s an interesting commentary on the times. In particular the bit about Chinese immigrants being accused of stealing the jobs of the locals if they worked and being bone idle if they didn’t. I think we’ve heard that more recently too, especially since 2016. The more things change the more they stay the same.
BM I am a student of history and Christian and read the bible every day. Technology advances, knowledge increases, (although knowledge is also lost which many don't appreciate), and we consider that we are a lot cleverer than previous generations, although I doubt there are many today who had the mental capacity and talent of Leonardo De Vinci. But one thing doesn't change over thousands of years is human nature. Anything people don't understand or ignorant of they can perceive as a threat, its in our genes. |
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Post by Kenilworth_Stokies on Nov 24, 2023 9:49:58 GMT
It’s an interesting commentary on the times. In particular the bit about Chinese immigrants being accused of stealing the jobs of the locals if they worked and being bone idle if they didn’t. I think we’ve heard that more recently too, especially since 2016. The more things change the more they stay the same. BM Schrodinger's Immigrant: Simultaneously coming over here to live off our benefits while also taking our jobs. Quite a feat. |
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Post by stokieinlondon on Nov 24, 2023 10:08:46 GMT
We only signed him to improve shirt sales in Asia.
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Post by OldStokie on Nov 24, 2023 13:30:57 GMT
Frank Soo was just before my time too but the tales the oldies used to tell about him placed him on a Stoke City pedestal. I was another who was not enamoured by Sir Stan. Maybe that's because I value loyalty above all things. Let's put it this way... he was certainly no Mr Stoke City. That title belongs to the great Denis Smith, my all-time favourite Stokie.
OS.
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Post by spiderpuss on Nov 24, 2023 13:57:53 GMT
Anyone know Lewis Peers? Is he a Stoke fan?
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Nov 24, 2023 18:40:29 GMT
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Post by mattface on Nov 24, 2023 18:40:29 GMT
Really great article and wonderful to read
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Post by chuffedstokie on Nov 24, 2023 19:23:44 GMT
In my case it was my father telling me about the great Stoke players of the 30s. He took me to my first Stoke game in the 50s. Oddly though he was not a huge fan of Matthews. It wasn't that he didn't think he was a brilliant player, it was more that he didn't like him as a person. He thought he was very self centred and only thought about himself and his own career. But my father was very "old school" and thought people should be subservient to their "betters". Thankfully those days have gone. He did use to drewel about how good Soo and Steele were. Similar here, my dad saw him play and had some great stories. He even knew what the players day jobs were!. Took me to my first game in 1967. |
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 5, 2024 14:12:59 GMT
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Post by baystokie on Jan 5, 2024 20:42:00 GMT
In my case it was my father telling me about the great Stoke players of the 30s. He took me to my first Stoke game in the 50s. Oddly though he was not a huge fan of Matthews. It wasn't that he didn't think he was a brilliant player, it was more that he didn't like him as a person. He thought he was very self centred and only thought about himself and his own career. But my father was very "old school" and thought people should be subservient to their "betters". Thankfully those days have gone. He did use to drewel about how good Soo and Steele were. It seems many of our Dads brought us up 'proper'! One of the few things belonging to my Dad that I still have are the autographs of the Stoke players of the late 30s - think he must have thought that the coming World War could end English football for a very long time. Thankfully, we both restarted watching in 1946/7 and I hope I still have a few years left to enjoy the game. |
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