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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Nov 12, 2023 21:21:51 GMT
....to extend our unbeaten run to 15! Blackburn H 3 QPR A 3 Plymouth A 1 Sheffield Wednesday H 3 Swansea H 3 West Brazil A 0 Unbeaten run comes to an end! Millwall H 3 Brum A 1 Watford A 0 Ipswich H 3 20/30
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Post by onlyonesirstan on Nov 12, 2023 21:24:04 GMT
12 points
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Post by somersetstokie on Nov 12, 2023 21:58:37 GMT
I hate it when commentators say things like "Team X haven't won a home game since early September", neglecting to remind us that said team have only played 3 matches in the time since, because of International breaks. Its a fairly meaningless statistic, when taken out of context.
Having said that, when we ourselves next play, against Blackburn on November 25th, it will then be 7 weeks since our last defeat, against Leicester, on October 7th.
SEVEN weeks since we were last beaten, going into our next game. Sounds good to me.
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Post by musik on Nov 12, 2023 22:10:45 GMT
We don't need to lose anyone of the remaining games this year if we're lucky.
However Ipswich at the start of 2024 will be too tough, I reckon.
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Post by Jimm on Nov 12, 2023 22:46:54 GMT
I hate threads like this...
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Post by scfcno1fan on Nov 13, 2023 8:55:20 GMT
Not sure we’ll win all 5 of our next home games.
I’m definitely around to the thinking now that this bonkers league is unpredictable.
Most teams are really poor, anyone can beat anyone etc. But they really can.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Nov 13, 2023 8:57:08 GMT
One game at a time
Blackburn next will be tough. They looked impressive for large parts against Preston the other night
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Post by robstokie on Nov 13, 2023 9:15:41 GMT
....to extend our unbeaten run to 15! Blackburn H 3 QPR A 3 Plymouth A 1 Sheffield Wednesday H 3 Swansea H 3 West Brazil A 0 Unbeaten run comes to an end! Millwall H 3 Brum A 1 Watford A 0 Ipswich H 3 20/30 Blackburn H - 3 QPR A - 1 Plymouth A - 0 Sheffield Wednesday H - 3 Swansea H - 1 WBA A - 1 Millwall H - 1 Brum A - 0 Watford A - 3 Ipswich H - 1 So 14 points from the next 10, meaning we will be smack bang in the middle of the table. Don't think we will concede too many, particularly if we can keep the spine of the team fit, but can't see us scoring too many either - hopefully we can nick a few off set pieces and pick up a few more points than above.
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Post by theonlooker on Nov 13, 2023 9:19:33 GMT
30 points.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Nov 13, 2023 9:22:47 GMT
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Post by theonlooker on Nov 13, 2023 9:32:20 GMT
I'm pushing for 31 but can't seem to get the maths to work...
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Post by humbersidepotter on Nov 13, 2023 9:36:24 GMT
Excuse me for being pessimistic... Where are the goals coming from? I've never seen a Stoke side who look less likely to score than the current squad have in the last two games, even the relegation season it looked like shaq might pop up with a goal at any moment. I would love to buy into the fact that we'll win even four of those games, but I just see a lot of draws. We're playing a few teams there who are very capable of scoring goals. We're the 19th highest scorers in the league, in comparison: Blackburn - 10th QPR - 23rd Plymouth - 4th Sheffield Wednesday - 24th Swansea - 14th WBA - 8th Millwall - 18th Brum - 16th Watford - 13th Ipswich - 1st
We're capable of beating a few of these teams but if we go behind there are a teams on that list who will score multiple times and I can't see us doing that
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Post by etebojan on Nov 13, 2023 10:03:27 GMT
Excuse me for being pessimistic... Where are the goals coming from? I've never seen a Stoke side who look less likely to score than the current squad have in the last two games, even the relegation season it looked like shaq might pop up with a goal at any moment. I would love to buy into the fact that we'll win even four of those games, but I just see a lot of draws. We're playing a few teams there who are very capable of scoring goals. We're the 19th highest scorers in the league, in comparison: Blackburn - 10th QPR - 23rd Plymouth - 4th Sheffield Wednesday - 24th Swansea - 14th WBA - 8th Millwall - 18th Brum - 16th Watford - 13th Ipswich - 1st We're capable of beating a few of these teams but if we go behind there are a teams on that list who will score multiple times and I can't see us doing that Was thinking on Saturday that we had quite a few chances when we were passing around outside the Cov box for someone like Baker to welly one of his absolute thunderb@stards from range (we currently don't have anyone really trying to do that, save Burger or Pearson out of frustration), because even if those don't go, they'd cause chaos and in vidigal and Mmaee we'd have the players to leap on the loose balls. When he's available he(Baker) will provide another completely different option off the bench. A front three of Campbell, Mmaee & Vidigoal...with Bae or Haks behind will score goals
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Post by dirtygary69 on Nov 13, 2023 10:45:14 GMT
After our recent run of good results in tough games, I fully expect us to be thoroughly wank through this selection of very winnable games. 10 - 12 points.
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Post by nottsover60 on Nov 13, 2023 10:51:07 GMT
Not sure we’ll win all 5 of our next home games. I’m definitely around to the thinking now that this bonkers league is unpredictable. Most teams are really poor, anyone can beat anyone etc. But they really can. Yes we could lose 3 of the 4 - Blackburn, Swansea and Millwall are all capable, if inconsistent sides. We always seem to find it difficult to beat teams who don't come here to win but to stop us winning so even Sheffield Wednesday could be difficult. One match at a time please.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Nov 13, 2023 11:36:13 GMT
Blackburn look decent in the final third.
Our tactic seems to be not to conceded no matter how poor the opposition are and at no costs throw caution to win a game that is there for the taking.
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Post by etebojan on Nov 13, 2023 11:46:36 GMT
After our recent run of good results in tough games, I fully expect us to be thoroughly wank through this selection of very winnable games. 10 - 12 points. I do fear we'll do the same as we did after the March run of form two drab draws and then back to a losing streak against teams we should be beating
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Nov 13, 2023 11:47:13 GMT
I'm pushing for 31 but can't seem to get the maths to work... Unfortunately no bonus games in the next ten, thirty it is! 😜
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Post by somersetstokie on Nov 13, 2023 12:17:18 GMT
Not sure we’ll win all 5 of our next home games. I’m definitely around to the thinking now that this bonkers league is unpredictable. Most teams are really poor, anyone can beat anyone etc. But they really can. So it will probably be one of the first seasons to be demonstrably settled by referee decisions. Maybe we can sign a few refereees to our cause in January, unless they've all been snapped up by Leeds and Southampton.
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Post by lordb on Nov 13, 2023 13:12:18 GMT
Blackburn look decent in the final third. Our tactic seems to be not to conceded no matter how poor the opposition are and at no costs throw caution to win a game that is there for the taking. I think that's not correct don't think that's how AN sees football our attacking play has not been good enough but don't see him going ful on defensive, if we were you'd play two backs of four & wouldn't be playing Hoever at RB That's not to say AN hasn't selected practical players instead of flair players but that's not the same as saying his tactics are 'not to concede' He's not Joe Jordan
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Post by lordb on Nov 13, 2023 13:14:08 GMT
4 wins, 3 draws, 3 defeats would see 15 points, that would be respectable
more than that would be very good
11-14 points or so would be not unlikely & a bit meh
10 or less would be poor
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Post by gingerninja on Nov 13, 2023 13:36:43 GMT
I agree with Lord B, I don't see AN as being overly defensive, when we attack, by and large we get decent numbers in the box, I have never seen a team get into so many good positions, only to either pick the wrong option, or overhit or under hit the final ball, it's crazy how often we do this.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Nov 13, 2023 13:52:15 GMT
Blackburn look decent in the final third. Our tactic seems to be not to conceded no matter how poor the opposition are and at no costs throw caution to win a game that is there for the taking. I think that's not correct don't think that's how AN sees football our attacking play has not been good enough but don't see him going ful on defensive, if we were you'd play two backs of four & wouldn't be playing Hoever at RB That's not to say AN hasn't selected practical players instead of flair players but that's not the same as saying his tactics are 'not to concede' He's not Joe Jordan Is his record as good as Joe Jordan?
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Post by biddulphchav on Nov 13, 2023 14:02:37 GMT
Very hard to predict, not only in this league but also given our form over the last season and a 1/3.
I would not be surprised to see us take 10 points from those games, but I would be shocked if we can manage 20. We look decent at times but we’re fragile in some ways and a bit toothless going forward. We don’t score enough goals or look like we’re going to score enough to give me the confidence we’ve truly turned a corner. Hope we can kick on.
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Post by lordb on Nov 13, 2023 14:34:44 GMT
I think that's not correct don't think that's how AN sees football our attacking play has not been good enough but don't see him going ful on defensive, if we were you'd play two backs of four & wouldn't be playing Hoever at RB That's not to say AN hasn't selected practical players instead of flair players but that's not the same as saying his tactics are 'not to concede' He's not Joe Jordan Is his record as good as Joe Jordan? No idea, why?* I'm not arguing he's doing a good job, far from it, I am arguing that he isn't the defensive manager you described earlier imho he wants the team to go out and score gaols a plenty, the fact we get so many Stoke City 0 scores is testament to the fact he isn't getting it right I'm not actually arguing against defensive football, that can be veery effective *still at least he hasn't signed John Clarke
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Post by femark on Nov 13, 2023 16:16:54 GMT
Blackburn H 1 QPR A 3
Plymouth A 3 Sheffield Wednesday H 3
Swansea H 3
West Brazil A 0 Millwall H 1 Brum A 1
Watford A 0
Ipswich H 0
We'll be setting our sites on the play offs by the middle of December, only to be swiftly brought back to earth by the new year.
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 13, 2023 16:53:53 GMT
To win a game we have to score a goal..........mmmmmm!!!
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Post by stokief on Nov 13, 2023 16:56:54 GMT
....to extend our unbeaten run to 15! Blackburn H 3 QPR A 3 Plymouth A 1 Sheffield Wednesday H 3 Swansea H 3 West Brazil A 0 Unbeaten run comes to an end! Millwall H 3 Brum A 1 Watford A 0 Ipswich H 3 20/30 Blackburn H 3 QPR A 1 Plymouth A 1 Sheff Wed H 3 Swansea H 0 West Brom A 0 Millwall H 1 B'mghm A 1 Watford A 0 Ipswich H 1 However Deebs, you'll have to keep me posted about what's going on in the matches as I won't be listening to the Radio Stoke commentary ! What will it be next? Flags stuck down AN's Blue tracksuit trousers and his hands waving in the wind with a luvvly view of a Werther's original rolling gently down softly undulating hills towards the referee dressed in fashionable black a la Coco Chanel in the light of the brightest floodlights in the UK where it meets a cup of hot soup being grasped tightly by probably the Greatest Ever England footballer Mike Pejic wearing his full Tae Kwando gear ?
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Post by sensiblestokie on Nov 13, 2023 18:08:54 GMT
10 wins in a row. Why not 👍🏻
Mmaee and Vidi to get fully fit and up to speed, defence looking solid. A fully fit Baker may well help out, too.
Obviously at some point Bae being a regular starter.
Always keep the faith 😀
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Post by nonameface on Nov 13, 2023 18:53:54 GMT
Last 16 games we've 1.3ppg, 6th place run at 1.6ppg.
So to keep pace we need 16 points from this batch of 10.
If we got 21 we are probably 6th-8th and the board should risk a big short term striker signing.
Dont think we've got the goals in the team against poorer opposition to get 16 points, so see alot of frustrating draws, narrow wins and losses. 15 points would be improvement and what I expect us to get.
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